Template talk:Peterexposed

This is my favorite template name.--Hardvice (talk) 02:07, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Graphic Novel:Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, Part 2

Would enhanced speed be listed on this template due to Daphne's proximity of Peter running from the Haitian?--Bob (talk) 20:11, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

• Since the Hatian was there, Peter's power was being blocked, which means he wouldn't have been able to absorb Daphne's power. --Piemanmoo 20:25, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
  • The template lists powers he was exposed to. If you recall, he has yet to mimic the Haitian's power, but he was exposed to it in Season One on the rooftop of the Deveaux building. His ability to absorb is irrelevant. --Bob (talk) 20:28, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
    • I think Peter hasn't absorbed the Hatian's power because his power is automaticaly blocked in his presense anyways. So since his own ability wasn't active at the time, he wouldn't have been able to absorb any powers anyways. See where I'm getting at? --Piemanmoo 20:38, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
      • You're missing the point. The Haitian was around when Peter met Bob. Regardless of Peter being able to absorb the ability, he was exposed to the ability, thus the name of this template. If you look, alchemy is listed because Peter was exposed to the ability. It has yet to be shown if the Haitian blocks the absorption aspect of Peter's ability, but he certainly blocks the mimicry aspect. As such, Peter was still exposed to alchemy, as well as enhanced speed.--Bob (talk) 20:48, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
        • He was exposed to Bob and Daphne, but he wasn't exposed to their powers. With the Haitian around, Peter pretty much has no powers of his own. Peter wasn't exposed to Daphne's power any more than the Shipping yard guard was, he was just around her. The Hatian doesn't just block aspects of an ability, he blocks the entire ability. If peter can't call forth powers, then it makes sense that he also cant absorb new ones.--Piemanmoo 20:57, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
          • That's speculative. We don't know exactly how the Hatian's ability negation work, he could have blocked Peter's conscious efforts to activate his abilities, but maybe he didn't negate the exposure to Daphne's power, since Peter's absorption is "automatic". Since we don't know for sure, I think we should add it as an exposed power.--Referos 21:09, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
            • I agree with Bob, exposed has a different meaning than absorbed, so "enhanced speed" should remain listed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:20, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Personally, I don't feel the Haitain-Peter issue has been cleared up yet. It's possible that Peter has already absorbed the Haitian's ability, as it is not always 'on.' It's also theoretically possible that Peter could 'break through' the Haitian's ability. Even though Future Peter in FYG wasn't able to Matt was, on two occassions, gaining one word each time. If it is ever confirmed that Peter has the Haitian's ability, however, it does seem to create a paradox (what cancels what?).Stevehim 09:50, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Range of Peter's power

Have we established a range for the power yet? We assume he has Micah's, DL's and Molly's powers from Kirby Plaza een though they were a good distance away. How much further (if at all) was Sylar when Peter was in the bank? If it's within range, we'd have to add at least clairsentience to the list...Stevehim 09:30, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

• Sylar was definitely in the area and quickly appeared in the bank soon after both versions of Peter disappeared, which implies he was very close. I'd say Peter's been exposed to it, especially given the range he absorbs DL's power from... and Sylar was very likely closer than that. Photolysis 09:34, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Knox's Power

Is there any need to include this? At the moment there doesn't seem to be any difference between Knox's enhanced strength and conventional super strength, other than that Knox's has a limitation. Even if the two are different powers, would it really have any effect? Unless Peter could feed off fear and use normal super strength to have 'super super strength'? Photolysis 09:34, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

• It could be argued that Niki's is the one with the limitation, as it probably has an upper limit, whereas Knox's grows with the amount of fear that is around (similar to how the Hulk's grows with anger). It's also unclear as to whether the strengths are compounded or not (ie - he may have Niki's strength all the time and then add whatever strength he gains from fear to it). --Stevehim 09:37, September 30, 2008 (EDT)

Does Peter absorb Future Peter's powers?

And does Peter have one power or many?

Copying the points made so far from User talk:Admin

• We're putting Sylar's powers he hasn't displayed on the list, shouldn't it stand to reason that we should put Future Peter's powers there too? The idea that his power wouldn't absorb Future Peter's power is only based on assumptions (eg - it's the same person). It also seems that the list is being used for powers he was exposed to, not whether he obtained them (eg - the Daphne discussion with the Haitian being present). --Stevehim 09:28, September 30, 2008 (EDT)

• There are some weird implications to him being able to mimic abilities from his future self, so it's a road I'm not so sure that the writers intend to follow. I think rather than muddying things up between Peter and Future Peter that we'd be better off excluding powers from Future Peter until such time that we actually see him mimic an ability he only was exposed to by Future Peter. Until then I think it's reasonable that the only ability he'd even be exposed to by Future Peter is his ability mimicry. Sylar is different than Peter in that he actually has multiple abilities now versus Peter who has a single ability (to mimic the abilities of others). I suppose it can be a tricky distinction. (Admin 09:38, 30 September 2008 (EDT))
  • Fair enough on the Peter/Future Peter front. I do want to say that while I see the difference between Sylar's and Peter's powers, I don't see how that leads to Peter only having one power. He doesn't lose the powers he's mimicked, so they can be said to be his (for instance, there's no evidence that if his mimicry was somehow taken away that he'd lose all his other powers, as his DNA has already reconfigured). Stevehim 09:49, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
    • It's stated that Sylar and Peter both change their DNA to gain new powers. Peter absorbs them "like a sponge" whereas Sylar uses his innate power to reconfigure his DNA. The mechanism might be different, but the overall effect appears to be the same. Since Peter can absorb Sylar's powers, there doesn't appear to be any reason why he couldn't absorb any from his future self. There's also the strange fact that Peter absorbed space-time manipulation from a future version of Hiro who no longer exists due to the timeline being erased, yet that didn't seem to create any paradoxes ;) Photolysis 09:54, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
      • They're good points... make them on Template talk:Peterexposed where they can attract more discussion and if there's overall agreement then we can start adding them. The distinction between Peter's ability and Sylar's appears to be that Sylar is adding the abilities to himself (so his DNA would reflect those added abilities) whereas Peter's single ability allows him to mimic (like a chameleon) and dynamically express a given ability. Sylar has multiple abilities, Peter has a single ability. Like I said, it can be a tricky distinction to get sometimes. In any event, start a discussion on Template talk:Peterexposed and we'll see what results. (Admin 10:01, 30 September 2008 (EDT))

Stevehim 10:11, 30 September 2008 (EDT)