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Thermodynamics & primordial soup

Sig and Time travel

Hello again! I added your signature with timestamp to your comment on Talk:List of abilities. Just thought I'd put a reminder here for you. :) Also, I noticed your time travel monologue. As Doc Brown would say, "You're not thinking fourth dimensionally!" LOL. Keep in mind that when thinking about the FYG episode you have to think of it in the point of view of Future Hiro. Time had already passed into the future at least once when present Hiro travelled there due to the actions of Future Hiro. Think of it as if the first nineteen episodes were a retelling of a past as modified by Hiro in the future (cause for future Hiro, 2011 was the present not the future). It is indeed confusing...but I hope that helps.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2007 (EST)

  • That is of course true, but then again, only fools are enslaved by time and space. If you look at the entire series from the temporal point of view of someone outside the show (someone "godlike"), you must then struggle with questions such as mine. In Hiro's timeline, nothing Future Hiro does has happened yet. If Hiro were to travel back in time and kill himself at some point, would Peter ever have received the message?--Yamawhata? 21:00, 10 December 2007 (EST)
    • The answer should be no. When the current Hiro reaches 2011, he must still go back in time to give Peter the message, or else this future his future self had built never occurs. On a different but similar note, we do not know as to whether Hiro still sees the same explosion after Peter explodes in the sky instead of the ground. It's conceivable that Maury or someone else could have altered what Hiro saw, but the writers haven't explored whether or not that is what happened.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:49, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Time Travel and Future Hiro

Here is how I fanwank Future Hiro being around in the future that Hiro goes to: When Hiro arrives in the dark future, Future Hiro isn't there; it just happens to be the moment that Future Hiro is in the past, before the time that Hiro left. Future Hiro is not "erased" from the timeline as Hiro arrives because he isn't there to be erased as it transforms around him. He then comes back to a (slightly different) future that has been altered (in fact, doubly altered: first by Future Hiro going back to see Peter, and second by Hiro traveling forward in time). The only thing this doesn't explain is why everyone else (like Future Peter) remembers Future Hiro during the interim.

If Hiro had chosen any other time to travel to, other than that time when Future Hiro was in the past, it would have "caused a rift." This is why Hiro is very constrained as to the times and places he can travel to, and to some extent can't really control all his time traveling abilities. Gregorus 16:12, 17 December 2007 (EST)

Monologues

Heh, I read you monologues. ;) Regarding the Group of Twelve comment, nine appears to be a re-occurring number in Heroes. See Theory:9.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:33, 4 January 2008 (EST)