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==Rename==
== Decision ==
Don't you think it's about time to decide if what we're going to do? Season 4 had ended and season 5 was still hanging. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13|Dark Master]] 01:45, 12 February 2010 (EST)
* More suggestions: Thermal Reduction, Thermal Removal, Thermal Absorption
*Read RGS's post above.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 01:46, 12 February 2010 (EST)
* Possible suggestions: Freezing, cold generation. I'd personally like to avoid anything which implies he makes ice (no evidence of that -- although ice forms on the surfaces he freezes, he needed the sprayer to make snow).--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 22:39, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
* I suggest cryogenesis.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 22:43, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
**But it was still nominated for a split --[[User:Darkfiremaster13|Dark Master]] 02:26, 12 February 2010 (EST)
*** There's no consensus for a split. We were explicitly given a name for Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 03:08, 12 February 2010 (EST)
** He isn't generating anything... he's manipulating the temperature of something. Freezing would be the short and sweet way to put the ability.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:46, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
*** Also, keep in mind that not every page nominated for a name change or split will get one.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 15:27, 12 February 2010 (EST)
*** True that cold is not actually a thing that can be generated, as it is just the absence of heat. But it can still be conceived that way. The problem with freezing is that to freeze something isn't just to make it cold, it is to turn it from liquid to solid. This power isn't a freezing power, it is a cooling power. Alternatives to cryogenesis that avoid the connotation of cold as a thing to be created may include "infrigidation", "decalorification", "thermoprivation" or some such word that implies removal of heat.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 22:58, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
**** All of those strike me as failing the "simple, easy-to-understand" test by a wide margin.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:14, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
**** E rowe is right, when Sylar transformed the faucet spray in his mom's kitchen, he didn't just make ice, he made snow. So freezing isn't the right word. If we have to rename this, my choice would be refridgeration.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:07, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
***** Snow is ( a very thin) ice. But he didn't generate it, he froze the water as it came out.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 23:08, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
****** Correct. I didn't suggest it was generation... read my below comments.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:30, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
****** I admit my three earlier suggestions weren't simple. My favorite of the three is infrigidation, which is easy for a normal person to figure out. It's a real word. And it's an uncommon enough word to work as a technical term for power, whereas "refrigeration" suffers from the connotations of what refrigerators do (granted, they cool things, which is exactly what we're talking about, but still). And though snow is ice, it's just there because the power made water become cold, just like it made a sword become cold, which involved no freezing of anything. At any rate, if cryokinesis is good, then at the very least, cryogenesis is better.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:20, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
* Incidentally, it's worth noting that Sylar refers to this ability as the ability to "freeze things" in ''[[The Line]]''. It's not quite a canon name, but it gives us a better understanding of the power from his perspective.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:22, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
* For something simpler than "infrigidation" how about simply "frigidation". Not sure why I didn't think of that before.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:23, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
** Not that this makes a difference. But to the credit of "infrigidation", it is in the OED, whereas, interestingly, "frigidation" is not.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:25, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
** Still strikes me as needlessly highfalutin. Why use an obscure word most people aren't going to recognize? Sure, they can understand it when they see it, but nobody's going to think to type "frigidation" into a search box. [[Help:Naming conventions#Power Names|The goal]] is not the fanciest/most technical name, but the most accurate/readily accessible one.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:27, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
*** Refridgeration is simple to understand as most people nowadays know what a refridgerator is and does: it lowers the temperature. I don't see anything wrong with using the term. E rowe, can you explain why you don't like it?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:30, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
**** It's an improvement over cryokinesis. I'm not totally opposed. But my main complaint is that it already has the baggage of the only time anybody ever uses the word being in the context of a refrigerator. It's so linked to refrigerators that it doesn't ever get used for cooling as a simple verb on its own. Whereas a coined word or an uncommon word that means the same thing won't have that baggage..--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:34, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
***** That's not baggage, imho. It's a bonus in my book as people will know what we're referring to. In fact, we were very close to naming Molly's power "human GPS" before the official terminology was released. Take a look at the discussion history for "clairvoyance" and also "electronic data tranception" to get an idea of how those discussions were going.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:46, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
****** Refrigeration is easy to understand. But, at least to me, it does have baggage, not just because people already know the word, but because they already have one single ingrained association for it. The verb "refrigerate" in modern usage doesn't simply mean "make cold" (though that was its sole usage in older English), but it frequently means specifically to keep something cool in a refrigerator, or some other place to preserve food. That's what I meant by baggage. [http://www.susanhuston.com/news/Rage-against-machine.jpg.jpg This super villain] has the power of refrigeration. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Freeze This one] doesn't.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 10:53, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*** I agree with your points Hardvice. But until the show gives the power a name, those problems will always exist. Many people certainly won't type cryokinesis in a search box without knowing to, and honestly not many will spontaneously think to search "cold generation" or "refrigeration". All we can do for that problem is redirect as many of the likely terms as we can. But for the main name of the power, it sounds better if it's somewhat technical, but it should also be intuitive enough for people to see why it's called that, and it should accurately describe what we know of the power as much as possible.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:39, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
* I like cryokinesis. Not only does it have a certain ring to it, but it's also a fairly well-established word, just not as much as [[pyrokinesis]]. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 23:43, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
** Just to be clear, I still prefer to keep cryokinesis as well. My second choice is refridgeration.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:46, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
** I wish I could say the same. But every time I see cryokinesis it's like fingernails on a chalk board just because I know the word's parts don't mean what this power does. There's no kinesis, at least as far as we've seen.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:48, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
*** Perhaps the kinesis is the slowing down of molecular motion, or the transfer of heat away from the object at a molecular level. [[User:General Shane|General Shane]] 06:31, 16 November 2007 (EST)
** Refrigeration sounds good. To me, the suffix "kinesis" sounds a tad stupid used in any power other than telekinesis. - [[User:Hive|Hive]] 00:06, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*** "kinesis" is movement, correct? Cryokinesis can be using a power to slow down (or moving the particles slower, or into a more solid alignment) the whatever that's being cooled. It works. [[User:General Shane|General Shane]] 06:31, 16 November 2007 (EST)
****Sure, the name can be justified, which is why "cryokinesis" has stood for so long on the site, I guess. But it's probably not the ''best'' name, in my opinion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 07:37, 16 November 2007 (EST)
***Refrigeration sounds terrible, come on let's be serious. It's worse than Cryokinesis. If a new fan to the show came on here and saw that they would laugh. Plus Cryokinesis sounds cool and it's cool to say. Go on say it, when I say it I see Sylars cold dead hands, his victims and generally ice. When I say Refrigeration I see a refrigerator not a cool a** power on my favourite show. No puns intended, im English, I can't pull off "awesome". --[[User:SomeoneImportant|SomeoneImportant]] 13:23, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
**** Heh, I think it's cool that you can laugh at it. When I think refrigeration, I realize that it's not just something done for food, and it isn't necessarily just a box. Air conditioners can be used for refrigeration. There are refrigerated trucks that transport food and boxes that transport organs for hospitals. That said, if people are really that said against refrigeration, we can just call it "temperature lowering", since that is what it is. It doesn't sound cool, but people will understand it.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:48, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
***** You might realise that Refrigeration doesn't just mean a fridge but people who haven't been obsessing about it don't. I think you're underestimating the show's audience, i.e. the kind of people that will understand Cryokinesis. --[[User:SomeoneImportant|SomeoneImportant]] 14:01, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
****** I agree with you, Someone, about "refrigeration". But the main problem with "cryokinesis" is that it's just plain wrong, no matter who thinks they understand it. The reason we can't call this power "cryokinesis" is the same as the reason we can't call it "speed reading", namely, it's not what the power does.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:19, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
* I would say Freeze or Freezing. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 14:05, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
** If we're going to go with absolute maximal simplicity, we should just go with "cold" instead of "freeze". To freeze something is to make it turn from liquid to solid, which is too limited of a description of this power.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:20, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
* The problem with changing the name of this power is that there aren't really any easy, simple, accurate names that can be applied to it. You can't really tack on a "Manipulation" to the power, because what's he manipulating? If he's removing heat, then he's technically manipulating heat and "Heat Manipulation" is a vastly innacurate term for it. "Temperature Manipulation," similarly, implies that he can add as much as remove heat. "Cold Manipulation" suffers the same problems and the name sounds like he's manipulating things that are already cold as is. "Freeze/Freezing" suffers from sounding far too simplistic and (though it has yet to be shown) the power may have applications beyond simply freezing water; "Freeze/Freezing" locks out the possibility that he can bring moisture to a cold, though not freezing, temperature and would need a further name change if such a development occurred. "Refrigeration" suffers from the connotations of the refrigerator and it's unlikely that anyone would search for "refrigeration" in relation to this power (even LESS likely than "Cryokinesis," I would dare say). -- [[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 16:14, November 2 2007 (EDT)
** Use of the power for things other than freezing is not "yet to be shown". The use of the power to make the sword cold was not a case of "freezing" anything.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 16:34, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*** Actually, he did freeze the blade through [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_freezing flash freezing]. -- [[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 16:39, 2 November 2007
**** What he did to the sword was neither freezing nor flash-freezing. The sword was already in solid form before he cooled it.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 16:44, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
***** This only gives credence to my point that "Freeze/Freezing" isn't a valid name for the power. Because he a) can likely cool objects to an above-freezing temperature and b) can cool already-solid objects, which isn't by definition "freezing." --[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 16:54, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
**The only name I can honestly agree with whole-heartedly is "Cold Generation." It seems to accurately describe the power, as what Sylar does is freeze moisture by generating a cold element (be it a freezing air, negative energy, whatever) from his hands. In the same way that Electromagnetism & Pyrokinesis generate electricity and fire respectively, Cryokinesis generates "coldness." If the name must be changed from Cryokinesis, this is the only one thus far proposed that I can get behind. -- [[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 16:15, November 2 2007 (EDT)
*** So no one liked "Temperature lowering"? How about just plain "cooling"?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 16:50, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*** I agree. "Cold generation" is probably the best choice.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
**** Except you can't generate coldness since coldness is the absence heat. "Heat extraction" would be a valid option, though, as he is literally extracting/removing the heat from the air or a person's body in order to do the cooling.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:39, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
***** That's a completely pedantic distinction. Making things colder is as good as generating cold, even if the actual mechanism at play is the removal of heat. Removing heat, for all intents and purposes, "creates" the condition of coldness. Darkness is the absence of light, but I'd take "Darkness generation" over "light removal" every day.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 02:46, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
****** I guess that's a glass half-empty/half-full kind of deal. ;) Anyways, "coldness generation" would be better since "cold" generation suffers the connotation of "cold" as a kind of virus/flu (ie. Maya's ability, only worse).--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 03:09, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
******* I doubt anyone would make that connotation. My preference would be simply "Cold Generation." "Frost Generation" is also a viable alternative.--[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 12:34, 4 November 2007 (EST)
******* I can honestly say my mind has never made that connection. [[User:Lulu|Lulu]] 03:14, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
***** Cooling is my favourite so far. - [[User:Hive|Hive]] 02:49, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
** Man, this is harder to name than "Bliss and Horror" I like "Cold or ice manipulation.--[[User:Matt 2108|Matt 2108]] 01:12, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
*I'd put a vote in for "Heat removal". —[[User:Psiphiorg|Psiphiorg]] 22:43, 4 November 2007 (EST)
***Holy dog shit, Cryokinesis is exactly what the power is, manipulation of cold. Seriously, ''heat removal''? We dont call refridgerators "heat removal boxes". Making things is get cold really fast through force of will is cryokinesis. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 01:54, 6 November 2007 (EST)
**** If we change this to "ice manipulation," then let's go ahead and change pyrokinesis to "fire manipulation" and technopathy to "machine talking."
**** Haha, "heat removal boxes." That's classic. =)--[[User:Ice Vision|Ice Vision]] 22:32, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Cryokinesis is fine, leave it be. D: --[[User:AnotherNella|AnotherNella]] 16:03, 6 November 2007 (EST)
* It looks like "cold generation" is the most popular term among people who want to change it. I just can't see keeping it "Cryokinesis", since, notwithstanding the comments to the contrary, it's not an accurate name for this power, which is, as far as we've seen, nothing other than the cooling of things. "Cold generation", "Cryogenesis", "Infrigidation", and "Cooling" are all names that seem pretty good to me; "Refrigeration" and "Heat Removal" are a notch down; all of those are more accurate than "Cryokinesis". --[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 17:16, 6 November 2007 (EST)
** Adding cold and removing heat aren't necessarily the same thing. At the same time, it shouldn't even be an argument. Think about that as you read what we have in notes. '''"...I figured that the air around his hands would simply just get really, really cold ... I figured he could then extend and direct the coldness around his hands... But where does the water come from that forms the ice? Is it the oxygen in the air slowing down? Should I have drawn the ground wet from rain? ... I opted for the former. So my comic implies that he could freeze someone from a short distance (3 feet?)."'''--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 00:03, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Here's my 2 copper-colored Lincoln coins: a Google search on Cryokinesis reveals about 23,000 hits. in the top 10, we are number 2, the rest are a bunch of 2 bit sites relating to the paranormal with inquiries on how to perform it. we have Sylar's concept of the power, "freeze things," which would be what a new, non-comic bookey fan might search for. Freezing is the only known use of this power, as those are the only examples seen. Non-technical names are not bad. I say we's better Keep it Simple, and call it freezing until we have evidence that it can do things other than freeze.--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 20:55, 7 November 2007 (EST)
*In response to that comment, I'll just point out that "Freezing" already redirects to "Cryokinesis", so anyone who searches for "Freezing" will find this page. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 13:20, 12 November 2007 (EST)
* You know, I'm starting to like the sound of "Freezing" as well. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 13:22, 12 November 2007 (EST)
**I don't have anything against it, myself. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 13:26, 12 November 2007 (EST)
*** It does have several advantages: it's simple, it fits with what we've seen, and it fits with Sylar's own description of his ability in ''[[The Line]]'', which is the closest we've come to a canon mention of the power by name. It may be a bit ''too'' simple, in that it doesn't really imply that it's a superhuman ability to do something natural (it's a bit like calling Ted's power "radiation", Meredith's "fire", or Elle's "lightning"), but it's better than "cryokinesis", which in retrospect is not widely known and stretches the "-kinesis" suffix to the breaking point.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 13:33, 12 November 2007 (EST)
**** I don't see anything wrong with simple, after all we do have [[flight]], some of them do need to be longer for clarity though. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 14:19, 12 November 2007 (EST)
***** Nor do I. My only concern, which seems completely trivial at this point, is that if we use a common word for a power, we may eventually need it for another article. It's pretty unlikely we'd want an article called "Freezing" that isn't about a power, but some of the other examples I gave (radiation, fire, lightning) struck me as something we might eventually need for, say, an Events article. Now it's possible we could end up with a "Freeze" (like Explosion, Outbreak, Fire (1992), and the like), but even then we wouldn't have a conflict, really.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 14:54, 12 November 2007 (EST)
* Ladies, i think this settles it: http://theories.activatingevolution.org/swiki/wiki/index.php/Cryokinesis . Yatta.
** [[activatingevolution.org]] is not a canon source, and is full of vandalism, misinformation, and poorly administered edits. Sylar himself said he could freeze things. And I'm a gentleman. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:47, 2 December 2007 (EST)
*** Yeah, activatingevolution.org is basically a spam bucket. Look at [http://theories.activatingevolution.org/swiki/wiki/index.php/Enhanced_pee one of the abilities] there. =)--[[User:Ice Vision|Ice Vision]] 23:02, 2 December 2007 (EST)

== Vote to determine consesus and restate our arguments ==

so lets see if we have consensus on any rename of this power. if you have another name suggestion just add it below the others<br>

<u>Cryokinesis</u> (leave the name alone)<br>
# [[User:General Shane|General Shane]] 06:27, 16 November 2007 (EST)
# --[[User:Dumpster juice|Dumpster juice]] 19:11, 16 November 2008 (EST)
# [[User:FlamingTomDude|FlamingTomDude]] 12:18, 19 November 2008 (EST) -- Quite frankly my vote isn't with the best intentions. I agree that freezing is more canon, but I think if we call pyrokinesis pyrokinesis, we should call freezing cryokinesis, I also think we should call lightning electrokinesis, but canonacy...
# [[User:ACDC1989|ACDC1989]] Both Aron Coleite and Joe Pokaski used the term Crykinesis. They should know the correct terminology as they are the writers after all. --[[User:ACDC1989|ACDC1989]] 12:16, 19 November 2008 (EST)
#[[User:Fred1793|Fred1793]] 05:58, 16 December 2008 (EST)

<u>Freezing</u><br>
#{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:26, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 01:30, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 02:05, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:Psiphiorg|Psiphiorg]] 04:05, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 04:07, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 07:37, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#{{User:Heroe/sig}} 11:02, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:MishBaker|Mish]] 11:19, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 12:58, 14 November 2007 (EST)
# or Freeze -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 12:24, 14 November 2007 (EST)
#-- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:13, 15 November 2007 (EST)
#[[User:Bosco13|Bosco13]] 05:38, 29 April 2009 (EDT) Cryokinesis is a good name but people who aren't fanboys mite not understand it lol. Freezing is simpler
<u>Cold Generation</u><br>
#[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 13:09, 14 November 2007 (EST). Similar alternatives, like "cold", "cold inducing", and "cold making" are as good.


<br>
There have been a few people wanting to express their opinions a year after we've had a consensus check, and that's fine. However, I should point out that at no time has "cryokinesis" been used in a canon or near canon source (see [[help:sources]]). Therefore, unless there was 100% agreement on a change, I couldn't see us going against our [[naming conventions]] to use a name that is both invented and not used in the ''Heroes''verse. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:39, 19 November 2008 (EST)

== Arguments ==
As for my arguments for Freezing, as stated in the above section, they are here: We have Sylar's concept of the power, "freeze things," which would be what a new, non-comic bookey fan might search for. Freezing is the only known use of this power, as those are the only examples seen. Non-technical names are not bad. Its Better to Keep it Simple, and call it freezing until we have evidence that it can do things other than freeze--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:26, 14 November 2007 (EST)

* My vote is for Freezing for lack of a better word. I'm going strictly on what we have written down in notes (and I bolded above).--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 01:30, 14 November 2007 (EST)
** I'm in the same boat. The only two names suggested that are appropriate for the power are Freezing and Cold Generation. The former is simple, direct, and doesn't seem ''that'' mundane once you get used to it. It gets my vote purely based on ''lesser of all evils'' status.--[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 07:39, 14 November 2007 (EST)
*** I have nothing '''against''' Freezing. In fact, I think that was what we originally called this power. However, I'm not sufficiently motivated to change the name that I'll actually register a vote. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 10:57, 14 November 2007 (EST)
****Freezing is only one of the effects of the power. It clearly isn't limited to freezing things. It makes things cold, and if the thing that it makes cold happens to be water, then it freezes. But if it happens to be a solid metal sword, then it just gets really really cold and brittle, which is not freezing.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 13:09, 14 November 2007 (EST)
***** Would [[wikipedia:Cryogenics|cryogenics]] work then? -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 13:28, 14 November 2007 (EST)
****** My opinion is that the sword was frozen in a shell of ice (check the image), so freezing is appropriate, and that's what it has been called in the story. Sure, Sylar may be able to just reduce the temperature slighltly, but he hasn't yet--it's always been freezing cold when he used the ability. Cryogenics has the connotation of freezing people for later revival (for a similar reason, we can't use refrigeration).--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:57, 14 November 2007 (EST)
******* The issue isn't whether or not he can make something slightly cold or very cold. The issue is whether the power is strictly one of making liquids become solids (i.e. freezing), or if it is one of making things cold, regardless of the state of matter they happen to be. We know for sure that the power is not strictly one of freezing things. Even if the sword was covered with a sheet of ice, it still isn't an example of him freezing anything, unless you mean that he froze a coating of water that was on the sword before that. Also, if all he did was make water on the sword freeze, then why did it break? Coating metal with ice doesn't change the properties of the metal. The sword broke because he made it very cold, much colder than ice. The power in that example can't possibly have been simply making water turn from liquid to solid (i.e. freezing), it had to be making the sword very cold. So it's hard for me to see why we would choose a name that limits it to something more specific than it really is. On the show the power has never been called "freezing". Sylar's remark that he's able to freeze things is not an example of giving a name to a power, it's merely his description of something he's done. Nobody disputes that this power can be used to freeze things. But to give that as it's name implies that it is limited to that, which it isn't.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:33, 14 November 2007 (EST)
******** I disagree that it matters if he froze the sword colder than ice. He still froze it, and that's what's important, imho. As for the ice that appeared on the sword, my theory is that the sword became so cold ice frosted onto it, not that it matters.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:18, 14 November 2007 (EST)
********* He didn't freeze the sword. The sword, like all swords, was solid before he touched it. The freezing/melting point for any kind of metal (except mercury) is very hot, not very cold. He, by touching metal that was already frozen (i.e. it was already in solid form), made it very cold and brittle. The presence of frost that formed on this very cold metal (which tends to happen to cold metal) is incidental to the fact that he made the sword cold. He didn't freeze it.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 20:14, 14 November 2007 (EST)
********** My mistake, then, what I was trying to say was that he froze frost onto the sword.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 20:33, 14 November 2007 (EST)
*****Cryogenics is the word for the field of study. The cognate for the actual process of making something cold would be cryogenesis, which is a term discussed above that didn't gain much support.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:31, 14 November 2007 (EST)
******* Thats [[wikipedia:Cryonics|Cryonics]]. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 14:12, 14 November 2007 (EST)
******** Cryo-whatever has that connotation. Similarly, there's infrigeration, which has the same connotation as refrigeration (see arguments above the voting).--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:20, 14 November 2007 (EST)
********* Cryo-whatever does not have that connotation. It only has that connotation if the suffix added to "cryo" is appropriate for a word meaning to make something cold. I.e. cryokinesis doesn't have that connotation. Cryogenesis does. Infrigidation also does. But infrigeration is not a word. Refrigeration used to have that connotation. But now it mainly refers to storing food in a refrigerator.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:31, 14 November 2007 (EST)
********** E rowe, I agree to disagree here, cause I still think of people in state of frozen animation whenever I hear cryo-something, and I don't think I'm alone in that thought.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:18, 14 November 2007 (EST)
*********** My bad. I wasn't talking about frozen animation.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 20:20, 14 November 2007 (EST)
*Regarding the argument that "freezing" should only refer to liquids solidifying, let me quote from [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?freeze Merriam-Webster's Dictionary]:
*:intransitive verb
*::1 a: to become congealed into ice by cold b: to solidify as a result of abstraction of heat c: to withstand freezing &lt;the bread freezes well&gt;
*::2: to become chilled with cold &lt;almost froze to death&gt;
*::3, 4: [omitted]
*::5: to become clogged with ice &lt;the water pipes froze&gt;
*:transitive verb
*::1 a: to harden into ice b: to convert from a liquid to a solid by cold
*::2: to make extremely cold : chill
*::3 a: to act on usually destructively by frost b: to anesthetize by cold
*::4, 5, 6: [omitted]
*:It seems to me that all of Sylar's uses of this "coldness" power meet at least one of these definitions of "freeze".<br>--[[User:Psiphiorg|Psiphiorg]] 22:52, 14 November 2007 (EST)
**Yes! I like this argument for "Freezing"--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 23:05, 14 November 2007 (EST)
*** Agreed. It can be "freezing" cold outside even when there is nothing to freeze. To my mind, "freezing" doesn't imply the power to make liquids solid at all--it implies the ability to generate a temperature which ''would'' make liquids solid. A "freezer" (the thing attached to a refrigerator) doesn't promise to freeze anything you put in it. It just promises to maintain a temperature below 32&deg;F. It wouldn't freeze nitrogen, but that doesn't mean it isn't a freezer. We have no idea exactly what temperature Sylar creates, but it's low enough to freeze water.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 01:00, 15 November 2007 (EST)
***I like freezing for the above mentioned reasons (simplicity, near canon mention from Sylar, it fits). But like any good geek I've read alot of comics and played RPG's where the same ability is called cryokinesis, so I'm just as comfortable with it. As far as other names, until Mohinder gives it a mouthful of words, I'm happy with either of those two using the other one as a redirect.--<strong>[[User:MishBaker|Mish]]</strong>([[User Talk:MishBaker|Talk]]) 07:41, 15 November 2007 (EST)
****Looks like freezing is a pretty strong consensus. I still don't like saying that what Sylar did to the sward was freezing it. But I can't deny that that's one way to use the word, so it's not wrong.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 16:52, 15 November 2007 (EST)
*****I also like the idea of keeping a power name simple and inclusive until it's been assigned a specific canon name like Rapid Cellular Regenerative Monkey Hoo....or whatever. It feels more in line with the Heroes motif.--<strong>[[User:MishBaker|Mish]]</strong>([[User Talk:MishBaker|Talk]]) 17:00, 15 November 2007 (EST)
* Freezing is just as bad as 'burning' for pyrokinesis in my opinion. It's just waay too simple, although it passes the ease in understanding test. -{{User:Barbedknives/sig}}22:49, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
** You're adding to a pretty old discussion from almost a year and a half ago...but "freezing" is a [[canon]] name that probably won't be changing any time soon. [[:Image:DNATracyFile.jpg|See here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:05, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

==Consensus==

It looks like we have pretty good consensus in favor of "freezing" right now. If the scales stay tipped that way, I think the article should probably move by the end of this weekend...or I guess at the beginning of the weekend. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:31, 15 November 2007 (EST)
* That's probably good, since after working on the power source chart, I'm pretty convinced that "freezing" is a canon source name based on Sylar's description ("freeze things") the same way "flight" is based on Peter saying "fly", "invisibility" is based on Claude saying "invisible", and "space-time manipulation" is based on Hiro saying he can "manipulate space and time", etc.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 20:51, 15 November 2007 (EST)
*Freezing is a lot better. I'm glad it's been changed. Because most people have no idea what cryokinesis is. Pyrokinesis probably but not cryo.
**Isnt that what the picture is for? Plus I am starting to hate all the renaming. WHO REALLY CARES THAT MUCH? Is there really all these people with no life sitting around being like "well i don't really like that name so i should argue with half the internet about it"? If people don't know what cryo means than we should inform them instead of changing the name to Freezing... freezing doesn't make any sense. If i heard that someone's power was freezing i would assume anything they touch automatically becomes a popsicle. the kinesis part of that means that its controlled through their brain and cryokinesis is really the right term for this ability. All these name changes to retarded things like "lightning" and "freezing" are really really REALLY useless and a waste of time. Just change them back and make on with your days.--[[User:.Vault|.Vault]] 15:45, 20 November 2007 (EST)
* Woah, calm down. Why don't you take a look at our [[Help:Naming conventions#power names|naming standards]]? --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 16:59, 20 November 2007 (EST)
** Sorry I was just trying to prove a point not come off as a raving lunatic, okay so with your naming standards that you provided me, Freezing is below cryokinesis (also known as Cold and Ice Manipulation) as seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryokinesis#Cold_and_ice_manipulation here], cause "Names in common use in other works" is higher on the list than "Descriptive names".... anyone catching my drift here?? Also, slyar didn't freeze the roads in the Graphic Novel "Road Kill" he iced them... there is a difference. Freezing the roads would just lower the tempurature of the road... ICING the road provided a slippery surface for the cop cars to slide on. Just another reason why Freezing doesn't seem fit.--[[User:.Vault|.Vault]] 10:25, 22 November 2007 (EST)
*** I think it was your use of all caps, insinuating that people have no life, and your offensive use of the word "retarded" that made people upset, not that you were trying to make a point....You're right, names in common use in other works take a higher priority than a descriptive name. However, [[canon]] sources are higher in the hierarchy (in fact they're the highest). In ''[[The Line]]'', [[Sylar]] described his ability as "freezing things", so we use that name he gave. As for the example from ''[[Road Kill]]'', you're right--I assume Sylar probably technically froze the moisture in the air right above I-95, and not the road itself. However, it's perfectly acceptable to say the roads were frozen, Sylar was responsible, ∴ Sylar froze the roads. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:45, 22 November 2007 (EST)
**** Yes. And besides, what really are the other works out there that use the word "cryokinesis" for this kind of super power? Are we talking about something major like Marvel and DC comics? Or are we talking about individuals who make up names for powers on other wiki sites and forums? Whatever insignificant precedent there might be for the word "cryokinesis", it's not good enough to overcome the fact that the word doesn't mean what this power does. The big problem people had with it wasn't the prefix "cryo", it was the suffix "kinesis". This is the same reason "electrokinesis" was wrong. Pyrokinesis is better, not only because of its precedent, but also because we've seen the power used to do what this word means, which is to move flames.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 12:46, 22 November 2007 (EST)
***Yesh. The first time I ever heard Cryokinesis was this page actually! haha. [[User:Jason Garrick|Jason Garrick]] 22:54, 23 November 2007 (EST)
freezing - no way. freezing is the process whereby a liquid turns to a solid. and also cryogenis sounds so much better. if u '''dumb down''' this name you might as well call Technopathy "machine talking" for gods sake.
*It's not a matter of "dumb down," it's a mater of "Document the canon," regardless of how it sounds or what precedent there may be for calling it something else. Sylar, and therefore canon, calls it "freeze things" ergo, "freezing." Now, if The Company or Mohinder, who both have more expertize on this in-universe, call it something more fancy/technical, "cryogenesis" for example, then we will have grounds to rename it to that, or whatever other technical name they may apply. Empirical observations of the power meet the definitions of freezing that Psiphiorg brought to light in the arguments section above, validating the name. As it stands now we have no reason to change it other than the frivolous semantics of "it sounds bad" or "it's too dumbed down." fixing those would negate the purpose of this Wiki, which is to document canon.--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:45, 25 November 2007 (EST)

== Tracy Strauss ==
I took these screenshots for a possible example of Tracy Strauss freezing the journalist. (I don't know how to get previews up so I'll just link them)
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manfreezesbm5.png
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manbreaksapartsz3.png

== Should we call Pyrokenisis "heating?" ==

If not, then "Freezing" should be renamed to "Cryokinesis." Even Wikipedia agrees with me. [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:14, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

And what does a consensus prove? Just because there are a lot of people on the internet who can't understand words over three syllables doesn't mean it's correct. [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:20, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*This is not wikipedia, they generally use comic book terminology. If you would read [[help:naming conventions]], you would see that there's a rank and structure to why we name a power what we have. In the episode ''[[The Line]]'', Sylar explicitly refers to his ability as "freezing things". There is no other reference to a name aside from this in an episode, so this is the name we use.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 20:20, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
* I didn't say this was Wikipedia. Did Claire's mother ever refer to her ability as Pyrokenisis? You didn't answer my question, I see. So let's just rename that article to "heeting stufz." Oh well, I see you and your buddies think the word is too big, so we should just call it the same thing kindergartners do. After all, they're clearly the highest rank in this Wiki's hierarchy. [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:24, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
**Well thanks for the insult. I really do appreciate the fact that you don't care what our policies when I try to explain them to you. You joined this site on your own free will, and I'm explaining to you what we do around here. We go by what the show says, and in the show, the only reference to it is Sylar saying he "freezes", nothing about "cryo" anything. Meredith's power is explicitly called "pyrokinesis" on an [[assignment tracker]] for the new villain [[Flint]] in the most recent episode. You should read the discussion pages on the powers to read in depth why we name everything the way we do.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 20:28, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
***Don't have a heart attack, I read that crappy page. I can sum it up right now as a matter of fact "most people on this wiki are incompetent, so the information, names of articles, etc. should follow suit." Going by that, why is Elle's power called "lightning?" That's too confusing for us here on the heroes wiki who apparently have an IQ of 75, and besides, isn't her power over electricity, not lightning (which comes from nature)? When was her ability referred to as "lightning?" [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:34, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
****It's apparent there's no getting through to you since you think we're a bunch of incompetents. But again, you joined our site on your own, and yet you don't even want to know why we do what we do. '''READ THE POWER PAGES''' if you want to know why they're named. We have those nifty boxes at the top of each page to explain it.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 20:38, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*****The fact that you're getting upset to the point where you must resort to bold and capitalized letters shows me just how much a friendly, internet argument does to you. Don't worry buddy I read the "lightning" page, no explanation as to why it's called that. So basically, someone with the mentality of a 7 year old would look up "lightning" rather than "electricity," so this wiki will adjust itself to those standards. It's "easier," right? And those who are ignorant often take the easy way, correct? Well then, both you and the rules of this wiki agree with me, it appears that this site is catered to the incompetent. Checkmate, friend. [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:44, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
******If you looked up the lightning page and still have no idea why it's named that, I daresay somebody else here's rather "incompetent". --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 20:48, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
******Checkmate? I didn't realize we were playing here. From the lightning page, "The name of "lightning" has been explicitly used to refer to this ability numerous times, most notably in Petrified Lightning and Four Months Ago....". It's not a matter of names being to simple for our users, it's that we actually document what is said on the episodes. Peter called the ability lightning. In the graphic novels, also written by the writers of ''Heroes'', it's referred to as lightning. I'm not going to discuss its name on this page, so you can go [[Talk:lightning|here]] if you feel the need to argue a point we already discussed almost a year ago. This isn't me trying to "argue" or "fight" with you. I'm here explaining the naming conventions of this wiki, yet you continually insult its users, which as of a few minutes ago, includes you. So if you feel the need to further this, by all means do, but it doesn't help the fact that this ability was referred to, in a [[canon]] source, as freezing.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 20:49, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
********You, I, and everyone else are always playing. Life's a game, friend. I see that you've resorted to a low however, you had to bring in a little buddy of yours. A 2 on 1 sure is fair, huh? You two are also acting like I did anything more than ask a question. When did I ever say that this wiki sucked? I asked if it was made for those who are stupid and I received no direct answer, so what should I assume? [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:52, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*********This isn't a fight or whatever you're taking it as. It's a Talk Page, and anybody is free to give their opinion. You might find that members of HeroesWiki (or, well, pretty much anywhere else) don't take it too well if you insult them. --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 20:54, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
**********I insulted no one. From the start I've only asked questions. The comment I posted previous to the one where you joined in was filled with questions and almost none answered. I asked if this wiki is made for those who prefer the easier way, I received no definitive answer, except that it was about "documentation." If someone thinks of the ability as freezing, rather than cryokenisis, do you think they'd really care about exact documentation? [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 20:59, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*********** Calling the users and readers here incompetent because of the way an ability is named is very insulting. Grow up.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 21:03, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
***********You insulted no one, huh? Yeah, not even gonna dignify that claim by responding to it. And as for your question - no. We do not make it for those who prefer the easy way. The purpose of this Wiki is to document the canon, not to document general consensus. If it's stated as freezing in canon, we name this page freezing. End of story. That explicit enough for you? --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 21:05, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
************ And a third little man comes in to play, huh? Riddler, congratulations, by telling me to "grow up" you insulted me as well, and made yourself a hypocrite.
Ciwey- By addressing my claim you "dignified it." Good day to you ladies, I'm off to watch the Presidential Debate. [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 21:07, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*This conversation needs to end now as it is degrading into insults and harsh words and does not further the discussion of the page in question. I suggest users on both sides of the argument not respond to this particular thread as the arguments are becoming antagonistic and contentious in nature. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:02, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
*Internet. Serious buisness. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 06:04, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
**You have no idea how frustrated I was when this happened. I really wanted to post the picture for "arguing on the internet is like..." --{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 17:33, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
**This is sad. Trolls are best dealt with by ignoring them, which I suggest you do. ~~ [[User:Darmenos|Darmenos]] 15:28, 17 October 2008
*There are many people on wikipedia like this that believe that their way is the only way. It gets frustrating when people don't want to just let something go or at least make their point understood in a more civil manner. Information on wikis (regardless if it is wikipedia or Heroes Wiki) is not always based on what is factual, but what is based on popular opinon. Trying to make your opinon popular will not get done if you are rude and offensive. On a related note, one of my favorite articles on wikipedia is [[wikipedia:Criticism of Wikipedia|criticism of Wikipedia]]. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 16:48, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

By the way, Zelrio, you misspelled "pyrokinesis," "heating" and "stuff." I'll leave the rest to you guys.--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 20:45, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
* I believe Zelrio was doing that on purpose, in an attempt to show why he thought it was silly to use a simplistic name. But that was almost a year ago, and there is no need to bring it up again, especially with a discussion that was riddled with contention, insults, and immaturity. Let's leave past discussions in the past, please. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:24, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Shouldn't the image for the power be Sylar freezing Hiro's sword, because it actually shows the person freezing it, and not just the thing being frozen? [[User:TheEvilNoob|TheEvilNoob]] 14:49, 18 October 2008 (EDT)
* Although both images are good, I prefer the flower because it's simply a clearer image of the object being frozen. The sword just looks like blue sword or like a sword in artistic lighting. (Actually, I don't think it looks much like a sword at all.) Since [[:Image:Powers Tracy Freezing Flower.jpg]] is used widely, and it's a more current version, and it's from a user who currently holds the power (and didn't have to steal it), I'll go ahead and revert now. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:46, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

== Icing? ==

I thought it should be noted that on an interview with Ali Larter on nbc.epk.tv (http://nbc.epk.tv/view.aspx?request=episode&show=heroes-season-3&episode=eris-quod-sum&showEpisodeID=530&clip=interview-excerpts-ali-larter-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%9Ctracy-strauss%E2%80%9D), Ali calls her power "Icing" and says which is the power to freeze things. Maybe that's the name the writers use for that power?
* Interviews are secondary sources, and episodes place higher than interviews on the naming convention. --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 06:05, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
** To be fair, interviews place higher than descriptions of abilities. [[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 20:40, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
*** Not interviews with actors. If it were, say, [[Tim Kring]], or [[Joe Pokaski]], that might be a different story. The [[naming convention]] is pretty clear about interviews being with the show's creators. Incidentally, [[Greg Beeman]] has called [[Mohinder's ability]] "bug-like powers", "bug-crawl", and "bug power", but we've never changed the name of that ability (though I think it's high time we look at different names at this point). I don't think there are any written rules or guidelines about interviews, but I don't think an offhand comment even by a show's creator would necessarily "count". But that's another issue not for this page. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:09, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

==Cryokinesis and Freezing (Should be divided in 2 pages)==

I'm really bothered about the two abilities, I think that there should be two different ability page in "Cryokinesis" and "Freezing" because:

1) Cryokinesis means to control ice or release it like Iceman.

[[Image:95_is_icy.JPG]]

In this pic, as we can see, Sylar is releasing the ice and not touching something and freeze it. Which shows its, Cryokinesis.

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2) Freezing on the other hand, is when you touch things and it freezes.

- Most of the Freezing shown in TV, is when Tracy touches stuff and makes ice. Not releasing it.[[User:NiveKJ13|NiveKJ13]] 17:26, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
* Check Jason Badowers blog post regarding that page of the GN [http://jasonbadower.blogspot.com/2007/02/sylar-page-4.html here] --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 00:23, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
** Jason's the artist, so I think his post explains his confusion rather well. I don't see a separate page as needed.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 12:37, 25 October 2008 (EDT)


* Sylar has actually frozen things without touching them before. If you recall, he was able to turn the water coming from Virginia's sprayer to snow while keeping his hand a small distance away. In addition, we only see him touch the Kensei sword to freeze it. It would appear that the ability can be used via direct contact or close proximity, and it seems clear that Sylar's copied ability and Tracy's ability are the same (or at least extremely similar). I feel "'''Cryokinesis'''" would be a more accurate term than "'''Freezing'''" (gerund cases in particular just sit awkwardly), but I understand why Freezing is still the name. I have the feeling that when Tracy's Assignment Tracker comes out, this can all be put to rest, one way or another. [[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 15:23, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
** Some other short notes, while I'm here: "'''Cold Generation'''" or anything else describing the ability as "generation" or "creation" or the like is entirely incorrect from a scientific standpoint (I know, this show isn't exactly bound by real science, but bear with me...) Cold does not exist. It is the absence of heat. Thus there is no way to create an absence, what you'd be doing is removal. Figured I'd throw that in, in case people start calling for those names again. [[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 15:26, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
*I'd suggest reading our [[naming convention]] to see where we got this name from. Cryokinesis is a coined term, whereas Sylar has explicitly called this ability "freezing". Hope that helps.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 16:06, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
*to be fair, Sylar explicity describes this ability as freezing things. --[[User:UrNoob|Max]] 22:46, 15 December 2008 (EST)

==James Walker==
Is it possible that [[Sylar]] could have absorbed this ability from [[James Walker]]?
As James's body was found frozen when most of Sylar's other victims weren't
* So Sylar opened James's head, stole the ability, and then froze him afterwards? Not likely. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:14, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
* I read a very well written fanfiction about the possibility of James having that ability (though obviously non-canon, I just thought it was interesting). In the fic Sylar kills James and takes his ability, but then positions him in the chair and freezes him just to be cruel. Wouldn't that be something? -- [[User:FlamingTomDude|FlamingTomDude]] 8:38, 7 November 2008 (EDT)
* In the latest [http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18851 CBR] they confirm that Sylar did indeed get the ability from James Walker and then froze him when he "tested" it. I guess it's possible he telekinetically held James motionless the whole time which is why he's in the middle of eating at the time. It didn't seem likely, but they seem to say pretty explicitly that it did come from James. How about that. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 18:06, 17 November 2008 (EST))
**Yeah, I was disappointed at this. I really do think that some of the people on the writing staff should look at some of our discussions before they answer somewhat confusing questions. The CBR guys are great, but they choose poorly-worded questions a lot, and it becomes difficult to answer.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 18:11, 17 November 2008 (EST)
* If I were Sylar I would have killed James, taken the power, then positioned him like that to see just how good the power was. It must be pretty good to freeze someone into a certain position. -- [[User:FlamingTomDude|FlamingTomDude]] 12:07, 19 November 2008 (EST)
*Intriguing. The ability name should be changed to Cryokinesis as it was confirmed by both Aron Coleite and Joe Pokaski. --[[User:ACDC1989|ACDC1989]] 12:18, 19 November 2008 (EST)
**Actually, it wasn't, the word cryokinesis only appears in the question, in their actual answer, they don't use that word, in fact, they don't use any word with a link to the power's nature at all. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] 12:52, 19 November 2008 (EST)
*** Exactly. The question referred to it as cryokinesis, and was not regarding the validity of that name. It appears to be an unintentional baiting situation, and the name should not be changed as a result. [[User:GabrielPetrelli|GabrielPetrelli]] 13:03, 19 November 2008 (EST)
*What if James Walker tried to froze himself in that position for defense against Sylar so he wouldn't get his power. But Sylar froze him with Telekinesis and James couldn't finish the freezing process and stole his ability, leaving him frozen and open headed.--[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 24:36 15 February 2009

== CBR Interview does not confirm Cryokinesis as name ==
From the latest [http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18851 CBR]:
"'''''“After ‘Villains,’ we still haven't found out where Sylar got cryokinesis from. The Graphic Novel ‘Dreams Until Death’ confirmed that Sylar cannot acquire powers if the person is dead, even if the brain is intact. Given the emphasis on James Walker (written in Sylar's list), does that mean that Sylar stole cryokinesis from him and then froze his body (testing his new ability)?”'''''

'''Yes. That is exactly what we always thought. Killed. Absorbed. Tested. In that order, all in that Craftsman.'''"

This does NOT confirm cryokinesis as the name of the ability. They simply answered the question (which wasn't about the name) using the name provided by the person asking. And the person asking is not a valid source for deciding the name. --[[User:GabrielPetrelli|GabrielPetrelli]] 13:08, November 19, 2008
* Absolutely correct. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 13:12, 19 November 2008 (EST))

== New naming citation? ==
Should we change the naming citation for this name? It seems more explicitly named in ''[[Dual]]'', with the President's file and such. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 22:02, 15 December 2008 (EST)
*Yes, the file on Tracy confirms her ability name. Too bad, I was hoping for Cryokinesis. Oh well, at least the matter is settled. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 02:00, 16 December 2008 (EST)
**They probably got the name from this site :) --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 04:54, 16 December 2008 (EST)
***I wouldn't doubt it, the NBC Heroes site already has sections of this Wikia integrated in it, and I bet it's a lot easier for the writers to come check info here than to remember by themselves. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:58, 16 December 2008 (EST)
***I have no doubt they got the name from here, Heroes Wiki users are probably the only ones that refer to it as freezing. xD Everyone else uses cryokinesis. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 21:45, 16 December 2008 (EST)

*They definitely got the name from here. Check out the Space-Time Manipulation one.

[[Image:HiroNathanFiles2.jpg|250px]]

Try searching Space-Time Manipulation in Google, in the same format of writing, all of it appears to be from the HeroesWiki site.
--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 11:53, 19 December 2008 (EST)

== Speculative ==
Affirming that James Walker had this ability is unfounded and very speculative. There is no concrete proof of this affirmation other than a very sarcastic answer in an interview. I suggest removal of said speculative information. [[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 19:34, 8 February 2009
* I think [[Joe Pokaski]] and [[Aron Coleite]]'s comment in [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18851 this interview] is very direct and plenty of evidence to include James on this page. When asked if Sylar stole the ability from James and then froze his body, the writer-producers said, "Yes. That is exactly what we always thought. Killed. Absorbed. Tested. In that order." Nobody is speculating. We're taking a direct quote from a reliable source and applying it. Personally, I don't like it--I think it's silly that Sylar would have frozen a dead body rather than, say the bowl of milk that was on the table, but my opinion is neither here nor there. All that matters is that Joe and Aron confirmed a long-standing question. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:39, 8 February 2009 (EST)
**I had never seen this Interview. I was actually talking about another one. The italicized "exactly" seems suspicious though. [[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 23:02, 8 February 2009

==Condensation==
In Trust and Blood did anyone notice that when Tracy had her hand behind her back and activated her power, 'steam' rose from her hand? In reality, the condensed air would have sunk downward, as the fog does when you open your freezer on a humid day. Not too important, just bugged me. [[User:Dracomaster4|Dracomaster4]] 08:21, 11 February 2009 (EST)
Depends how hot it was, if the air was heated enough wouldn't it become hot and rise, with whatever condensation left over falling.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 03:25, 25 February 2009 (EST)

== Examples ==

Anyone else thinks the examples should be changed back? Putting sequences is a good way the effect of the ability, but since the selected examples should be down to eight images, it takes place of different examples. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:04, 17 February 2009 (EST)

== Better powers? ==
Did anyone see at the end of the preview for next.....next weeks show when she was surrounded with water and a bunch of agents. Then a few seconds later for a split second they showed a bunch of icicles everywhere all the men frozen it seems to me she obviously evolved her powers she probably like charged it up and let go a huge blast of cold air from her body. I had to rewind it a few times. to finally pause it right at the moment cause it was for a split second they showed it.--[[User:Icykidd|Icykidd]] 22:32, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

== Name Change ~ Ice Mimicry ==

Now that we seen that Tracy can turn her whole body into ice, shouldn't this be renamed to '''ice mimicry''', or should [[Sylar]] and [[James Walker]] have freezing and [[Tracy]] have ice mimicry.
# Tracy can turn her whole body into ice (as [[Elisa]] and [[Donald Essex]] have in GNs and a Webisodes, therefore sticking to the mimicry name)
# Tracy can produce ice from her body, although she admittedly needs water, (Donald Essex has been shown to produce vast amounts of water from his body.
# Now, I know I'm going to get lots of arguments saying that water has the same molecular formula as water, but (remember I'm rubbish at science) it could (somehow) change the melting point.
# Donald Essex and Elisa can reform after the turn into water (judging by Tracy's blink I would assume she could as well) --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 15:07, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
* '''Freezing''' was explicitly named on [[Nathan's files]].--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 15:08, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
** There have been many examples of ability development, Nathan could have believed it to be freezing then (as he only knew what we knew, which was that she froze stuff), but now we have found out that it is really ice mimcry. --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 15:12, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
*** A namechange is not possible if the name to be used have no any canon sources. ''Freezing'' is considered a canon because it was explicitly named in the show, while ''Ice Mimicry'' wasn't stated in any case.--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 15:16, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
**** In the namechange bar (at the top right) Number 5 is descriptions (for example: ability replication, dehydration are all descriptions of abilities), just as ice mimicry would be --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 15:21, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
*****They are desciptive abilities because there are no canon sources for the name of the abilities unlike Freezing.--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 16:49, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
****** As I've outlined above, if that is what it was believed to be at the time it would have been freezing as Nathan would know no better than us what her ability is. (And just to add to my point above it is clearly mimicry as she becomes ice). --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:58, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
*******Yes, a namechange right now won't be necessary yet. We may get further information about what happened to Tracy on the next episode.--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 17:20, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
********Yeah, we have to wait for the next episode (I do not believe that Tracy died). She can do more things with the power, type regenerate maybe... That blinking at the end of the episode was suspected...--[[User:Gabrielense|Gabrielense]] 17:42, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
**According to the [[naming convention]], a canon source trumps any descriptive names. It was seen on screen (a canon source) that her ability is "freezing". Regardless of what develops, the name was also described by a scientific source (Nathan via Pinehearst). So there's no grounds to rename. I'm taking down the rename tag.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 20:28, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
I don't understand, because Nathan was the one who named the ability and he wouldn't understand it fully! He obviously didn't know that most abilities would eventually evolve.
* Who says Nathan named the power? I think he named the power just as much as he took all the pictures in [[Nathan's files|those files]]. I can't remember exactly, but I believe much of the information from those files came from the files at [[Primatech]] and/or [[Pinehearst]] (I guess Nathan had access to his mother and father's files, or at least those that didn't burn in the dual fires). But even still, even if Nathan named the abilities himself (which is highly unlikely, in my opinion), he is still more of an expert on abilities than any of us are. It's also a canon source, which absolutely trumps any fan theorizing and postulating. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 02:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

== Clarification ==

Was Tracy's cold snap due to her building up all that cold in her body while she was under the lamps? {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 00:59, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
* Possibly, I prefer to think that her ability adapted to the extreme heat and became able to function at higher temperatures. Increasing it's power at lower temperatures - i.e. the cool 68 degrees Tracy mentioned.--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 01:05, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
: I agree. Expanding upon what Steelymcbeam was saying, Tracy's powers are evolving. Remember when they put those heavily-insulated gloves over her hands in the first episode of Fugitives. Didn't she shatter them in [[Building 26]] or something like that. Peter and herself suggested that can she could propel cryokinetic (I don't know what else to call it) energy like Elle could electricity. She almost did it in [[Trust and Blood]]. At the beginning, it was so hot in her cell, she couldn't even think about ice. And in [[Cold Snap]], though it was a small cloud it was there. And then later in the episode, she was able to project an seemingly-omnidirectional, almost instaneous "cold snap" that froze everything in the garage including herself. Sylar couldn't even do something like that. And as we all now, he pretty much gains control of an ability immediately (with the expection of electric manipulation). I don't think she's even dead. [[User:Titan3510|Titan3510]] 18:39, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

== New Image ==

I really do not like this new image. All you can see is just, blue. You have to look really close to see Tracy standing there. Any one agree with me?-- <span style="background-color: black; font-family:Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #111111;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"> <small>'''[[User:Catalyst|<font color=dodgerblue>Catalyst</font>]]''' <font color="dodgerblue">»</font></small> <small>[[User talk:Catalyst|<font color="dodgerblue">'''My talk Page'''</font>]]</small><small><font color="dodgerblue"></font></small>-</span> 16:47, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
*Is [[:Image:Tracy tries to save Micah(2).JPG|this]] any better? I really don't know, tell me what you think. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 17:03, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
**Actually yes it is. Good job.-- <span style="background-color: black; font-family:Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #111111;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"> <small>'''[[User:Catalyst|<font color=dodgerblue>Catalyst</font>]]''' <font color="dodgerblue">»</font></small> <small>[[User talk:Catalyst|<font color="dodgerblue">'''My talk Page'''</font>]]</small><small><font color="dodgerblue"></font></small>-</span> 17:32, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
***I think it actually shouldn't be photoshopped... But until we find a better catch, this one has to stick I think... Although I think "Cold Snap" was a really good episode for images about Freezing. -- [[user:Meteoritu|Meteoritu]] 22:52, 29 March 2009
**** Just about every image on this site has been altered in some way or another, whether it's color correcting, watermark masking, or just plain removing parts of images that don't matter so much. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:59, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
*****For the record, I didn't 'shop this image. I GIMP'd it. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:29, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
******I personally don't like the new image, all you can see now is white, whereas before all you could see was blue... The "Cold Snap" picture is probably the best example of the power imho. [[User:Dean Harper|Dean]] 22:48, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
*The picture is shooped lol! but im fine with it, its just basically enhancing it, no harm done --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 14:59, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
** It looks shopped, but when I watched it in England it look more similar than the blue one, in England it was quite light --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 15:37, 1 April 2009 (EDT)
Would'nt one of Micah running from the ice or right as he closes the door be better it's not easy to tell what is happening in the current pic --[[User:EmpathicMimic0|EmpathicMimic0]]
***Not really. --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 15:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
****Though the picture does ''look'' better, i still don't care for the ''actual'' picture. Does any one think [[:Image:Tracy freeze rope.jpg|this]] is a good picture?-- {{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:09, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
***** It's not a bad picture. However, [[:Image:Tracy tries to save Micah(2).JPG]] is the best image I've seen for this ability. I think it's very clear, it was an extremely memorable scene, and it definitely shows freezing at its best. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:43, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

==Tracy or Barbara?==
We're discussing whether or not the character shown in ''An Invisible Thread'' is Tracy or Barbara at [[Talk:Tracy Strauss]]... please don't add information related information to the freezing page just yet.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:56, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

"Information-related information?" What's that?--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 20:07, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

==Really Needed? Really?==
This is about, the image of Tracy turning from water into herself. I don't think this should be in the article since it doesn't really have anything to do with freezing.--[[User:Scorvi12|Scorvi12]] 03:39, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
*It's pretty obvious that the woman in An Invisible Thread was Tracy, and her ability is freezing. So until her ability is changed, this is where the example belongs.--[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 20:20, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

==THE Discussion. Ability Development, or New Power?==
Lets get this over with. Personally I think what makes the most logical sense is that Tracy's ability has always been what we are seeeing, some sort of water control. Making it a seperate ability from freezing and water mimicry altogether. We know from other character like [[Ted]], [[Matt Parkman, Jr.]], [[Peter]], and others that abilities are affected by the mindset and emotions of the user. So Tracy was simply unable to access the other aspects of her ability (rather than these being new aspects) when she was a "colder" person. Micah comes, inspires her, she "warms" up to him, and now she can use this part of her power (which will likely lead to her being able to control and become steam as well). Some of you might not like it, but this is how abilities have been written since the beginning. They have always been emotion and personality based. I vote we create a new article for this ability. It seems only hurtful to leave the topic undiscussed IN the articles for the most part, as this is more likely to be an answer someone is seeking since it was one of the cliffhangers from the finale. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:01, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
*I agree, I think Tracy's ability has always been something other than that, but she could only access the freezing part of it. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:47, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

==An Invisible Thread==
So over at [[Talk:Tracy Strauss]], the consensus has been reached that the woman in the finale was Tracy. So, until her ability is changed (if it ever is), can't we mention in her section that she can turn into water now? We have an image of it in the examples, so why not mention it? IT was the 'big' cliffhanger of the season, so no doubt people will want answers, and the may come here to get them. --[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 12:28, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

== Water mimicry ==
It's not the same ability as freezing. The last image with Tracy's splashy return should not be there. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 13:21, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
*See above. Tracy's ability is listed as Freezing for now, and this was an example of whatever her ability is. So until her listing is changed, the image should stay, in my opinion. --[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 17:03, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
** We are not even sure it's Tracy. I know, I know, we have discussed it before, but... -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 11:34, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
*** Every page with talk relevant to the discussions has at least one post with a confirmation that it is Tracy. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:03, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
****Its an odd ability, they appear to be based on emotional status or mental status at points. Tracy was an Ice Queen and only knew how to be cold, but when Mica talked to her she realized that she did not have to be such a person. In that way she found a new way to use her ability. Water mimicry? probably not the best name, it is temperature based but with turning into a liquid it could be seen as changing of states. The human body is naturally solid but it is made up mainly of water. Using her ability she is able to turn her entire body into water as well as into Ice. Maybe we will see her turn into a gas at one point but so far she has moved from solid to liquid. Might be matter manipulation. If it had something to do with temperature I would think she could have broken out of the heat prison due to her sweating. --[[User:DontEatRawHagis|DontEatRawHagis]] 00:28, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
*****Matter manipulation is definitely out of the table, it would mean she can manipulate everything there is, everything that is matter. Her ability is clearly restricted to water, even if in its three states. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 10:13, 10 May 2009 (EDT)

****Just looked at the wikipedia pages for freezing and melting they can be called Crystallization and an increase in Molecular Vibrations respectively. She has the power to cause Crystallization in both herself and others(ie freezing) but seems now only to cause an increase in Molecular Vibrations in herself, sort of how Alex Mac in that Nickelodeon show could turn into a puddle. MAybe these will help discern a new name for her ability. --[[User:DontEatRawHagis|DontEatRawHagis]] 13:05, 10 May 2009 (EDT)


== Phrasing ==
== I miss the old good Sylar ==
I've noticed that on several pages that mention a situation with this power, the phrased "turns into ice" or "became ice" or some variation of that is used. Turns into ice implies that Tracy is causing organic matter to become water with her ability, which I don't recall being mentioned. Is there any sort of evidence to back this word usage up?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 15:58, 5 March 2010 (EST)
He was so good and badass with freezing... -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 06:20, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
*Yeah, when she froze others, we saw their blood when they shattered. When ''she'' shattered, it was pure ice. So, my thinking is that she activated the water mimicry aspect as she was freezing, turning her to pure ice. Or are you talking about the other people and objects? In that case, I wouldn't use turns to ice, I think we'd be better saying freezes. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 17:34, 5 March 2010 (EST)
*That he was...Season 1 Sylar was pretty much the most badass villain on television. I think it was because he was surrounded in a lot of mystery. Now that they've delved into his life, he's become common and to well known. I think they should have killed him off in the first season. It would have saved him from "jumping the shark". -[[User:Vampirate68|Vampirate68]] 20:32, 10 July 2009 (EDT)
**I was refering to the other people and objects. Under the examples section it says that Tracy turns Claire to ice, and in Tracy's victims it says that she turned of the Building 26 fellows into ice. I didn't change it because I wasn't sure whether she was turning them to ice or not. But you're agreeing that she doesn't?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:45, 5 March 2010 (EST)
** Well, maybe they should have not. Sylar's return was brilliant. It was Volume Three that ruined everything, but now... Can't wait for Volume Five, huh? -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 02:09, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
**I just found one quote in particular "Tracy converts Wade Winslow's entire body into ice, killing him". Saying someone turned into ice could simply be an odd way of phrasing something, but saying an entire body was converted to ice leaves no room for interpretation.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:47, 5 March 2010 (EST)
***I agree with you Altes, V3 Sylar wasn't the greatest, but V5 should be pretty cool.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 02:16, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
***Yes, the fact Nathan talks about that man's blood still being warm on the wall (though I would argue it was cold) means that guy wasn't ice, and when Claire's foot came off, it didn't melt, it just defrosted. About Wade Winslow, I think that should be frozen as well. We have no evidence that he was completely ice. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 17:49, 5 March 2010 (EST)
*** :) -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:59, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
****V2 Sylar was pretty good as well. The whole not having powers thing was pretty cool too. Maybe they should have had him return in the end of V2, but just made him dissipear again, becoming a guest star again. I think it would have made his character mysterious again. V3 Sylar was just too wimpy. -[[User:Vampirate68|Vampirate68]] 09:12, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
***** Having an invincible villain is cool, but it should not last for too long. Arthur was killed off. Samson, I believe, used to be very powerful. Linda Tavara was killed. But Sylar lives no matter what. But, like I said, can't wait until Volume 5, I'm glad they've made something unusual. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:59, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
******They should have given him a power that dealt with force fields or something like that and not RCR. Sylar was cooler when he wasn't invincible as he actually thought about his plans, instead of just charging in. -[[User:Vampirate68|Vampirate68]] 14:01, 12 July 2009 (EDT)


== Files of Primatech, Part 4 ==
== this will be good against transportation and space-time manipulation ==


They used to the term "abilities" to describe Mindy's power. I foresee a possible backlash, but doesn't this set a precedent to use the "water and ice manipulation" abilities to name Tracy's power? [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:25, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
Freezing could be the only way of killing somebody with transportation and space time manipulation but only if the person has not had time to respond. 50000JH
* No. They use the term "abilities" in all of Primatech's personnel files. See [[Primatech's files#Personnel Files]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:37, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
:If the person has no time to respond, a bullet can do the job too. [[User:Mateussf|Mateussf]] 13:27, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 00:37, 30 March 2010

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine freezing's name.
Source/Explanation
Tracy's ability is explicitly listed on the file Nathan gives The President (Dual).


Archives Archived Topics
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Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 1#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]]

Nov 2007-Apr 2009 [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 2#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]]

Apr 2009-Jan 2010 [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 3#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]]

Jan 2010-Feb 2010 [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was:]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

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Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was|

Extension:DynamicPageList3 (DPL3), version 3.6.1: Error: MediaWiki\Extension\DynamicPageList3\Query::buildAndSelect: The DynamicPageList3 extension (version 3.6.1) produced a SQL statement which led to a Database error.<br/>The reason may be an internal error of DynamicPageList3 or an error that you made; especially when using parameters like 'categoryregexp' or 'titleregexp'. Usage of non-greedy <code>*?</code> matching patterns are not supported.<br/>The error message was]] • [[Talk:Freezing/Archive 4#

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Decision

Don't you think it's about time to decide if what we're going to do? Season 4 had ended and season 5 was still hanging. --Dark Master 01:45, 12 February 2010 (EST)

  • Read RGS's post above.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 01:46, 12 February 2010 (EST)
    • But it was still nominated for a split --Dark Master 02:26, 12 February 2010 (EST)
      • There's no consensus for a split. We were explicitly given a name for Tracy's ability. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:08, 12 February 2010 (EST)
      • Also, keep in mind that not every page nominated for a name change or split will get one.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 15:27, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Phrasing

I've noticed that on several pages that mention a situation with this power, the phrased "turns into ice" or "became ice" or some variation of that is used. Turns into ice implies that Tracy is causing organic matter to become water with her ability, which I don't recall being mentioned. Is there any sort of evidence to back this word usage up?--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 15:58, 5 March 2010 (EST)

  • Yeah, when she froze others, we saw their blood when they shattered. When she shattered, it was pure ice. So, my thinking is that she activated the water mimicry aspect as she was freezing, turning her to pure ice. Or are you talking about the other people and objects? In that case, I wouldn't use turns to ice, I think we'd be better saying freezes. --mc_hammark 17:34, 5 March 2010 (EST)
    • I was refering to the other people and objects. Under the examples section it says that Tracy turns Claire to ice, and in Tracy's victims it says that she turned of the Building 26 fellows into ice. I didn't change it because I wasn't sure whether she was turning them to ice or not. But you're agreeing that she doesn't?--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 17:45, 5 March 2010 (EST)
    • I just found one quote in particular "Tracy converts Wade Winslow's entire body into ice, killing him". Saying someone turned into ice could simply be an odd way of phrasing something, but saying an entire body was converted to ice leaves no room for interpretation.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 17:47, 5 March 2010 (EST)
      • Yes, the fact Nathan talks about that man's blood still being warm on the wall (though I would argue it was cold) means that guy wasn't ice, and when Claire's foot came off, it didn't melt, it just defrosted. About Wade Winslow, I think that should be frozen as well. We have no evidence that he was completely ice. --mc_hammark 17:49, 5 March 2010 (EST)

Files of Primatech, Part 4

They used to the term "abilities" to describe Mindy's power. I foresee a possible backlash, but doesn't this set a precedent to use the "water and ice manipulation" abilities to name Tracy's power? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:25, 29 March 2010 (EDT)

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