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WHOA.

So, mid-episode thought, but does anyone get the feeling that the telekinetic guy who attacked Noah in 1985 might be someone we've seen before? Sure looks like him, and it would damn well explain a lot. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 21:17, 1 February 2010 (EST)

• Apparently his name is "Richard". Neeevermind. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 21:29, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Did... did they...

Did they just retcon 'Company Man'?--Gibbeynator 21:42, 1 February 2010 (EST)

• Actually I don't think so: they show Bennet's being approached by The Company and then afterwards. They never reshow that part from Company Man and to me it still fits in.--WarGrowlmon18 21:44, 1 February 2010 (EST)
  • According to the page here, the earliest point in Company Man was 15 years before the then present story, while a good chunk of this story takes place over 20 years before.--Gibbeynator 21:54, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Now Now

• I really loved this episode, and now that the Carnival is going to New York, does anyone else see the little futures we have seen are going to become one be future for example Sylar being Good, and a Earth being blow-wen up, and Specials being hunt etc if they pull this oh my god--Skyeatsout 22:06, 1 February 2010 (EST)

eli, you cocky fool

Yes, good luck trying to stop peter and sylar. The 2 most powerful specials. R.I.P. Eli. We hardly knew ye.Gamerelite1 22:08, 1 February 2010 (EST)

• I was just thinking that. Sylar is, well, god, and Peter can do whatever Sylar can. Eli's toast.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:09, 1 February 2010 (EST)
  • Did Eli ever meet Sylar? If he did, all he knew was that he could use some low-level telekinesis and electricity - he barely utilized his powers at all while he was in the carnival.--NovaX81 22:13, 1 February 2010 (EST)
    • Yeah I don't think eli has ever met them. Ergo, he has no idea the horrible, horrible rape about to befall him.Gamerelite1 22:14, 1 February 2010 (EST)
      • I think they're trying to set up Sylar as someone who's not going to kill anymore.--Gibbeynator 22:17, 1 February 2010 (EST)
        • That doesn't mean he won't defend his life though.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:20, 1 February 2010 (EST)
          • Eli's an idiot. Maybe Sylar and Peter can finally put a stop to him. I don't like that guy. All Peter has to do is replicate one of Sylar's major powers (he no longer needs telepathy now that he's freed Sylar) and the two will kick some serious ass. Peter and Sylar working together........... oh can't wait to see that fight and Eli obviously loses given Sylar shows up to save Emma. Maybe Peter will be able to replicate all of Sylar's abilities now that he has more time to try to do that and will regain at least some of his former power. Maybe Peter will finally get to kill someone on purpose and finally put an end to Eli himself. I had so wanted him to be the one to kill Arthur Petrelli.--WarGrowlmon18 22:23, 1 February 2010 (EST)
            • • Maybe peter will try using telepathy to make the clones fall asleep n then it'll be revealed the clones dont have minds and sylar will have to do all the work.daevon 22:26, 1 February 2010 (EST)

One of the best episodes ever?

I was so amazed by tonight's episode I was able to look over the tired metaphor of a wall as a personal barrier. Personally, I love any episode where Peter and Sylar are buddies, but this episode had some superb acting and Noah and Claire fate is quite ominous. What does everyone else think?--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:08, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Loved it myself, personally I cant help but wonder 'how long will Eli's clones last against both Peter and Sylar'.My guess, not long. -- Tbora 22:19, 1 February 2010 (EST)

It was alright, like a 3.9 out of 5. Kind of slow in the beginning, but picked up right at the end. daevon 22:23, 1 February 2010 (EST)

The Wall (the one in the episode) and what it represented

I think the wall was created by Peter's own fears of letting Sylar go, at least his subconcious fear and most likely anger. It manifested as a wall that blocked them from escaping and it obviously wasn't put there by Matt given what happened. Notice how once Peter accepted Sylar's changed and maybe forgave him at least a bit, the wall was easily broken. I think that was him letting go of that subconious fear and anger that was blocking him.--WarGrowlmon18 22:27, 1 February 2010 (EST)