Talk:Ability supercharging

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources	Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources	Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine the name for Ability supercharging.

Lightning?

Is the only reason why people aren't calling it lightning, is because it's red? Because it looks self-explanatory to me. What else could it be? It looks EXACTLY like Elle's power only it's red and not blue white. --Dman dustin 10:14, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

• I agree, Ando's ability IS lightning. If we can say that Meredith and Flint both have pryokinesis, even though her's is natural colored and his is blue, then we should put Ando's ability under lightning. - FlyingMan 12:39, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
• We haven't got any information about this power. We can't be sure that it is "Lightning", so, I thin that "Ando's ability" is better. - Henryp 19:34, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
  • There's really nothing that distinguishes Ando's power from lightning except color, and that's hardly a huge distinction. Unless we learn that his power has some more distinctive properties, I don't see why this requires its own page. --Ted C 13:50, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
    • We're not going to call it "Lightning" yet because there's no definitive evidence that it is the same or even related to that ability. Flint's Pyrokinesis is labeled Pyrokinesis based on his assignment tracker and because it is distinctly similar to Meredith's example of the ability. Ando's ability may not be electricity-based or it may function entirely differently from Lightning. Plus, if people search for Ando's ability to look for new info on it, it'll bring them here, where all the definitive info we have on the power is.--Paronine 13:54, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
      • It did look like lightning to me, but it could also have been some other kind of energy blast, so I'm fine with waiting a little longer to see if we get any more clues to the name.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
        • I agree that it's Lightning, just colored differently. But there's really no evidence of that within the show. Our evidence for Flint having differently colored Pyrokinesis is that his AT says he has it and his power has thus far been very similar to Meredith's. Not so with Ando's ability. When some evidence appears canonically showing the two abilities to be related, then I'm sure we'll all be more than happy to move this on over to the Lightning page.--Paronine 14:27, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
          • I believe it's Lighting because of the way it is coming out of his hand and because of the noise it makes. It sound like the noise Elle's does as seen on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuVbvoLBj4
            • It is in fact lightning, a different kind, from Elle's lightning, but it is lightning, and it should be renamed to that (maybe in a seperate section, from Elle's ability) until we know exactly what it is. It's not like Mohinder's ability, which we have no idea what's going on to him - I was gonna suggest Enhanced Senses, but when his skin started to peel off I had no idea what to name it with, except "Mohinder's ability", it's not like Ando's (ability which we know a little bit of what's going on).
              • Apart from the "crackling" seen on Hiro's body upon use of the ability, Ando's power almost looks like more of a "laser" than Elle's lightning power. That being said, I imagine we'll soon have an official reference for calling Ando's power a form of lightning, similar to the Blue Pyrokinesis with Flint. GabrielPatrelli 16:13, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Name change

• Shouldn't this be called Future Ando's ability? --Pinkkeith 14:57, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Probably a good idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

It's lightning.

[1] --Pyramidhead 18:29, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

• Amen.--Referos 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
  • A definite end to a debate that never should have happened in the first place... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:33, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Unfortunately, no. Commentary from the actors isn't considered reliable. Zachary Quinto once commented that he thought Sylar ate the brains to acquire their powers. The confirmation needs to come from the show or the writers. I'd recommend submitting it to CBR as something like, "Is the ability Future Ando uses to attack Future Hiro lightning or some other type of energy blast?" (Admin 20:48, 8 October 2008 (EDT))
      • I agree with Admin. Also, imho, this is in the same boat as the Terrorist's ability from the latest graphic novel. Neither should be deleted, but we don't know enough about either to identify them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:13, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
        • Amen to Admin and Miami Volts, people cant argue that "just because there is a color difference doesn't mean that its a different ability", Flint and Meredith have Pyrokinesis and the color of the fire does not matter, blue fire is simply hotter than red fire... Blue-white lightning is lightning... no matter the circumstances, i have never seen red lightning and you'll have to convince me more that red lightning is also something to do with voltage and current.--Pbmarcano 11:34, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
          • I am sorry, but red lightning does exist. Well, it's not like a thunderbolt, but it's still an electrical discharge. Also, if you alter the colors of Ando's beam to blue using an image editor program, it certainly looks like Elle's lightning.--Referos 12:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
          • Here's another (better?) photo of real-life red lightning. According to the photographer, the color was caused by a reaction with pollutants.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:53, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
• You could always ask ;).--Skywalkerrbf 12:58, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Unfortunately, it would really have to be a writer or producer to answer this question.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:08, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
    • MV, every source of light in that photo has red tints to it, it could easily have been gradient mapped in photoshop or shotten through an altered lens or glass. (I practically alter images for a living) I'm not doubting red lightning exists at all im just doubting that Ando's ability is really lightning, plus we dont nearly have enough information to jump to the conclusion that its lightning. Based on just looks?! I mean for all we know its a beam that turns people's organs inside out! Don't judge a book by its cover my friends. I say just leave it until we get more information. (and if Hiro goes into explination telling Ando how his future self killed future hiro, i dont think that counts cause he knows as much as we do)--Pbmarcano 11:51, 12 October 2008 (EDT)