Talk:Bob Bishop

Spoiler page?

• Shouldn't this page be 'Spoiler:Bob'?--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Stephen Tobolowsky

I'm not too concerned because the episode airs in a little more than 48 hours, but how do we know that Stephen Tobolowsky portrays Bob? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:17, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

• Did you watch the spoiler clips from Four Months Later? It's him. :) (Admin 14:21, 22 September 2007 (EDT))
• Oh, unless you're asking how we know that the guy in that scene is "Bob". That's a good point. It's based on spoiler info which may or may not be accurate, but if it turns out to be wrong we can rename it since the page itself is also just a spoiler. (Admin 14:28, 22 September 2007 (EDT))
  • That makes more sense. Yes, that's very obviously Ned Ryerson, or that crazy dude from Seinfeld. My question was how you know he's confirmed as Bob, since most of the spoilers about him came from National Enquirer (not the most reliable source). Gotcha, now I understand. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
    • I think I've said it before, but when it comes to new characters we want to try to get articles up as quickly as possible. The earlier a page gets into the search engines the more weight it gets. We don't want this speed at the expense of accuracy, of course, but it does make sense to base a spoiler article on spoiler information especially since other people read those spoilers on other sites and immediately start looking for additional information on topics they saw in that spoiler. I've seen some searches for "heroes season 2 bob" already for instance. (Admin 14:35, 22 September 2007 (EDT))
      • Oh, I'm not upset it's created at all--in fact I think it's pretty great that we have it up. I was just curious if there was something released of which I wasn't aware. I've stayed pretty on top of the spoilers this summer, and I hadn't seen anything definitely linking Tobolowsky and Bob....Incidentally, I visit quite a few Heroes-related spoiler sites (about 30 daily), and we, by far, have the most complete list I've ever seen. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:38, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

That may be the one thing I didn't catch.

Did they actually call him Bob in the show?

I do understand his power is to change somethings molecular structure and appearence (at least to Gold.).--Riddler 22:05, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

• He has the power of King Midas! FlyingMan 22:11, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
• No, they didn't call him anything in the show. We've gone back and forth on issues like this, whether we use the name or not. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:41, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Now that it's going to be despoiled, we really shouldn't go with Bob since it was only announced through a spoiler that may not even be accurate. We'll have to rename it. (Admin 22:43, 24 September 2007 (EDT))
    • "The Company Representative"? ..Though it seems he's working with Bennet.--Riddler 22:44, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Actually, it looks to be quite the opposite. Bennet is working to bring down The Company and it looks like he's working with Mohinder and Mohinder is going to help him take it down from the inside now. (Admin 22:45, 24 September 2007 (EDT))

Name of his Power

I think it sounds more "Heroes-y" if his power is listed as Aurification rather than The Midas Touch. Am I wrong in thinking this? Just my opinion. --Pred 0212 00:04, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

• Of the suggestions I've seen tossed around so far, I think you're right... aurification's the best I've seen so far. (Admin 00:09, 25 September 2007 (EDT))
• It's way to early to say with any certainty exactly what his power is. We've had one example and no explanation. Can he turn anything into gold? Anything into anything? Any metal into any other metal? Only affect flatware? We just don't know, and almost any name we can give it at this point is likely to prove wrong, so we need something very, very generic. Neither "The Midas Touch" nor "Aurification" meets that criteria.--Hardvice (talk) 00:09, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Actually, I'd say the two best options are to go with what we've seen exactly... which could generically be defined as aurification... or nothing at all (possibly listed as "indeterminate" or something). While we may find that aurification, for example, is too specific of a name, we run into the same problem on the other end of the spectrum going with a name that is too generic and implying that the power can do more than it really can (which is what I dislike about the plant manipulation power we have). If we want to specifically avoid erring on one side, we need to not err on the other side of the spectrum as well. Of course Ryan might be able to use his power to determine a good name for it. :) (Admin 00:56, 25 September 2007 (EDT))
    • Heh, I got nothin' at the moment. :) As for the name, I don't like Alchemy very much. I see where Hardvice is coming from in not wanting to be speculative, but we gotta put something for the name. I don't see many very good (read: non-speculative) suggestions. "Our own private Fort Knox" works, but I'm sure it'd be shot down (by me as well). I'd say "aurification" sounds best to me at the moment, since it's at least going with the concept of turning things into gold. True, we don't know the exact nature of the power, but because Bob referred to Fort Knox, I think it's okay to (at least for now) assume he can turn some things into gold. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 05:52, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
• I was looking around for the scientific name, but I just put Midas Touch when I couldn't find it. But I think Aurification is fine, and if it's wrong change it when we find out. I don't think there is anything "very, very generic" enough pertaining to turning things into gold that we can put either.--IMax 00:40, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
  • I was thinking it was more like alchemy during the show (ie turning lead into gold). Disney42 01:05, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
    • I prefer aurification (it literally means transmuting into gold). I think we need to go with what we do know, and that's that he changed a metal spoon into gold. Alchemy is connotated with making gold, but that's not what it means. Also, I think we need to re-name the character if his name was not given, as I don't recall him saying it.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
    • I agree with Miami. Alchemy is a more commonly known word, but it doesn't specificaly relate to turning things into gold. Aurification does sound more "Heroes-y". --Piemanmoo 02:22, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
• I've renamed this to "aurification" for now based on a few suggestions that it's a better term for his power. The change isn't necessarily final, it's just how we'll leave the power named for now if we want to discuss alternatives. (Admin 08:27, 25 September 2007 (EDT))