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*** No, I'm not describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I don't disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying that there's reasonable doubt. "Inherited" can mean that he inherited the genetic makeup to develop an ability, or that he received the same ability as his father. However, calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" with a couple of side effects may be speculative. Calling Edward's ability "Edward's ability" is not speculative. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:46, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
*** No, I'm not describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I don't disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying that there's reasonable doubt. "Inherited" can mean that he inherited the genetic makeup to develop an ability, or that he received the same ability as his father. However, calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" with a couple of side effects may be speculative. Calling Edward's ability "Edward's ability" is not speculative. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:46, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
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**** Ok, add "potentially" before "only meaning" to my previous statement. That's still where we disagree. The way I see it, we should be following what is literally said and not be placing our own doubts. Ryan and Admin are adding a potential meaning to what was said that doesn't need to be there. It's a possible theory, but not the most explicit meaning. --[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:04, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
**** Ok, add "potentially" before "only meaning" to my previous statement. That's still where we disagree. The way I see it, we should be following what is literally said and not be placing our own doubts. Ryan and Admin are adding a potential meaning to what was said that doesn't need to be there. It's a possible theory, but not the most explicit meaning. --[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:04, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
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***** Santiago asks how SLW found him. What is literally said is "We merely followed the law of probability. You inherited your gift from your father." This is on the page, so I'm not sure how we're not following what is literally said. "Your gift" can either mean "your ability" or "your genetic makeup" (much like how other children of evolved humans have the genetic makeup to inherit an ability). Calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" may or may not be speculative. Calling is "Edward's ability" is not speculative at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
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==Edward's abilities?== |
==Edward's abilities?== |
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* Shouldn't this be Edward's abilities since as far as we know, Edward has more than one like his son?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:13, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
* Shouldn't this be Edward's abilities since as far as we know, Edward has more than one like his son?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:13, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
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** As far as we know, Edward has one ability that lets him do many things. Sort of like Hiro or the Haitian who each have one ability that lets them do several things. Hopefully we'll [[Interview:Destiny|find out more soon]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST) |
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| 1. Canon Sources | Episodes |
| 2. Near-canon Sources | Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions |
| 3. Secondary Sources | Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival |
| 4. Common names for abilities | Names from other works |
| 5. Descriptions of abilities | Descriptions |
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Why was it changed to Edward's ability?
- The serious looking women said that Santiago has the same ability that his father Cj31094 15:58, 20 December 2008
- No. She said that Santiago inherited his ability from his father. Ultimately we don't know enough about Edward's ability to say what it is. See Talk:Edward#Edward's ability. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:28, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- Ryan and Admin are describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. They disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I disagree with them, but Admin runs the site so he has final say.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- No, I'm not describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I don't disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying that there's reasonable doubt. "Inherited" can mean that he inherited the genetic makeup to develop an ability, or that he received the same ability as his father. However, calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" with a couple of side effects may be speculative. Calling Edward's ability "Edward's ability" is not speculative. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- Ok, add "potentially" before "only meaning" to my previous statement. That's still where we disagree. The way I see it, we should be following what is literally said and not be placing our own doubts. Ryan and Admin are adding a potential meaning to what was said that doesn't need to be there. It's a possible theory, but not the most explicit meaning. --MiamiVolts (talk) 17:04, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- Santiago asks how SLW found him. What is literally said is "We merely followed the law of probability. You inherited your gift from your father." This is on the page, so I'm not sure how we're not following what is literally said. "Your gift" can either mean "your ability" or "your genetic makeup" (much like how other children of evolved humans have the genetic makeup to inherit an ability). Calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" may or may not be speculative. Calling is "Edward's ability" is not speculative at all. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- Ok, add "potentially" before "only meaning" to my previous statement. That's still where we disagree. The way I see it, we should be following what is literally said and not be placing our own doubts. Ryan and Admin are adding a potential meaning to what was said that doesn't need to be there. It's a possible theory, but not the most explicit meaning. --MiamiVolts (talk) 17:04, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- No, I'm not describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I don't disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying that there's reasonable doubt. "Inherited" can mean that he inherited the genetic makeup to develop an ability, or that he received the same ability as his father. However, calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" with a couple of side effects may be speculative. Calling Edward's ability "Edward's ability" is not speculative. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- Ryan and Admin are describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. They disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I disagree with them, but Admin runs the site so he has final say.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2008 (EST)
Edward's abilities?
- Shouldn't this be Edward's abilities since as far as we know, Edward has more than one like his son?--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:13, 20 December 2008 (EST)
- As far as we know, Edward has one ability that lets him do many things. Sort of like Hiro or the Haitian who each have one ability that lets them do several things. Hopefully we'll find out more soon. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST)