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Why was it changed to Edward's ability?

  • The serious looking women said that Santiago has the same ability that his father Cj31094 15:58, 20 December 2008
  • No. She said that Santiago inherited his ability from his father. Ultimately we don't know enough about Edward's ability to say what it is. See Talk:Edward#Edward's ability. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:28, 20 December 2008 (EST)
    • Ryan and Admin are describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. They disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I disagree with them, but Admin runs the site so he has final say.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2008 (EST)
      • No, I'm not describing his ability inheritance as only meaning he inherited his father's genes for the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I don't disagree with saying that to inherit an ability from someone means that someone must also have the ability. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying that there's reasonable doubt. "Inherited" can mean that he inherited the genetic makeup to develop an ability, or that he received the same ability as his father. However, calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" with a couple of side effects may be speculative. Calling Edward's ability "Edward's ability" is not speculative. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2008 (EST)
        • Ok, add "potentially" before "only meaning" to my previous statement. That's still where we disagree. The way I see it, we should be following what is literally said and not be placing our own doubts. Ryan and Admin are adding a potential meaning to what was said that doesn't need to be there. It's a possible theory, but not the most explicit meaning. --MiamiVolts (talk) 17:04, 20 December 2008 (EST)
          • Santiago asks how SLW found him. What is literally said is "We merely followed the law of probability. You inherited your gift from your father." This is on the page, so I'm not sure how we're not following what is literally said. "Your gift" can either mean "your ability" or "your genetic makeup" (much like how other children of evolved humans have the genetic makeup to inherit an ability). Calling Edward's ability "accelerated probability" may or may not be speculative. Calling is "Edward's ability" is not speculative at all. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST)
            • Gift literally refers to the ability in this case, not his genes.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:14, 20 December 2008 (EST)
              • Says who? Santiago has two abilities, according to Create Your Hero. Wouldn't she have said "gifts"? Even still, I can accept "gift" referring to his ability, but I can also accept "gift" referring to his genes. Since we don't know, we can't speculate. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:17, 20 December 2008 (EST)
                • If the writers didn't want us to think he had the same ability, I think they would have used the term genes. I think it is more speculative to say his gift could have referred to them instead of his ability, especially after SLW later specifically says Santiago's power was called accelerated probability and earlier SLW says "You have a gift Santiago. We want to help you make the most of it." and Elisa adds "You're not alone. There are others out there like you. Each of us has a gift. We want you to be apart of something much larger than yourself."--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:40, 20 December 2008 (EST)
      • There is no way the SLW was talking about genetic makeup in general when she said gift. We know that Edward and Santiago both can see probabilities and run fast, so it's not to speculative to say that they are the same power and edward has just demonstrated another possible aspect. Otherwise we should make a page for Adam's ability, because we don't know for sure if claire has the same power because she hasn't demonstrated slowed aging.--Piemanmoo 05:46, 21 December 2008 (EST)
        • Even still, that's unconfirmed. We don't know that Edward can see probabilities or that he was running fast. He only sneaked up on SLW. Saying that Edward and Santiago have the same ability may or may not be speculative. Calling what Edward can do "Edward's ability" is not speculative at all. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:19, 21 December 2008 (EST)
  • Edward and Santiago clearly have the same ability, Accelerated Probability, Edward just has more experience with it, seeing the paths and moving fast - Easy for both once they know how to trigger it, using the Electric Manipulation by-broduct - not so easy, well, Santiago knows he can do that now and Edward can teach him how to stun an enemy with it.--Garthak 09:28, 01 January 2009 (EST)

Edward's abilities?

  • Shouldn't this be Edward's abilities since as far as we know, Edward has more than one like his son?--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:13, 20 December 2008 (EST)
    • As far as we know, Edward has one ability that lets him do many things. Sort of like Hiro or the Haitian who each have one ability that lets them do several things. Hopefully we'll find out more soon. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:58, 20 December 2008 (EST)


Perhaps the lightening is simply a discharge of static conducted by running fast?-ViciousKillgasm

  • It could be related somehow, but I think there's more to it than that. --Piemanmoo 02:16, 27 December 2008 (EST)


This should be called "Electro-creeping" sinces thats what it does. Raiku 00:43, 23 December 2008 (EST)

  • I don't think that describes all aspects of his ability. I think it's speculative. I vote no. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:00, 23 December 2008 (EST)
    • Uh... Psilaq Remake 11:02, 23 December 2008 (EST)
      • Ditto on "Uh..." --Ricard Desi (t,c) 11:41, 23 December 2008 (EST)
        • That sounds terrible. --Piemanmoo 17:51, 23 December 2008 (EST)
          • Although it sounds (shudder) good, it's too specuative -- Irony 12:48, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Great description

I find the description funny:

"Ability to: Sneak up on others and electrocute them." ... Really? Guys, you can do better than this...

  • I've reworded it. Do you think it's better now?--Referos 17:34, 5 January 2009 (EST)
    • Sorry to interrupt, just wanted to say Referos you did a great job, I think it is a lot better now. --laughingdevilboy 17:40, 5 January 2009 (EST)
      • Thanks.--Referos 17:51, 5 January 2009 (EST)