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**** Pretend Noah's name was in a spoiler. It was a big reveal (though disapointing, but not the point) - putting it in the article would have been spoilery. While I doubt Elle will have a big reveal, I'd say the same laws would apply. --[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT) |
**** Pretend Noah's name was in a spoiler. It was a big reveal (though disapointing, but not the point) - putting it in the article would have been spoilery. While I doubt Elle will have a big reveal, I'd say the same laws would apply. --[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT) |
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* Yeah, this was discussed in the past. First names, with [[Noah Bennet|one exception so far]], are not considered spoilers. Surnames could be spoilers if it reveals a surprise relationship between characters, but first names generally aren't spoilers. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT)) |
* Yeah, this was discussed in the past. First names, with [[Noah Bennet|one exception so far]], are not considered spoilers. Surnames could be spoilers if it reveals a surprise relationship between characters, but first names generally aren't spoilers. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT)) |
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**Elle's name is pretty well established in major newspapers, reliable websites, and magazines with reputable distribution. Kristen Bell has said it herself, and the name has been on NBC's websites for weeks now. If the question is whether or not the name should be used because it's a spoiler, I ask what it is spoiling? Now, her dad is conceivably "somebody", so if her name were something like "Elle Suresh" or "Elle Linderman" I could understand the need to keep it off the page. But "Elle" does not spoil anything and can be used freely. For a deeper discussion of this topic, see [[Talk:Bob]]--there are a couple discussions on that page regarding the subject and this wiki's use of outside sources to occasionally name articles. The desire to keep spoilers off the site is admirable, but does not need to infringe on every source outside of canonical sources. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:42, 22 October 2007 (EDT) |
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Looks like a train crashed into this article. <_< [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 22:25, 22 October 2007 (EDT) |
Looks like a train crashed into this article. <_< [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 22:25, 22 October 2007 (EDT) |
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Revision as of 02:42, 23 October 2007
For emphasis: They never said her name in the show. It'd be spoilery to say it on this page. I suggest "Company Blonde"--Riddler 22:07, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- What about Bob? We knew his name through spoilers, and kept his name, even though it wasn't mentioned until Lizards.--Bob (talk) 22:08, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- I never caught that one to say something. I'd say that was a mistake.--Riddler 22:09, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- No, I think it is safe to say that her name is Elle. Jason Garrick 22:11, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- Listing Bob wasn't a mistake. We tried to list him differently, but since names aren't considered spoilers on Heroes Wiki, it was despoiled. I would be happy too if they were different, but we've been overruled.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:12, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- Pretend Noah's name was in a spoiler. It was a big reveal (though disapointing, but not the point) - putting it in the article would have been spoilery. While I doubt Elle will have a big reveal, I'd say the same laws would apply. --Riddler 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- Listing Bob wasn't a mistake. We tried to list him differently, but since names aren't considered spoilers on Heroes Wiki, it was despoiled. I would be happy too if they were different, but we've been overruled.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:12, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
- Yeah, this was discussed in the past. First names, with one exception so far, are not considered spoilers. Surnames could be spoilers if it reveals a surprise relationship between characters, but first names generally aren't spoilers. (Admin 22:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
- Elle's name is pretty well established in major newspapers, reliable websites, and magazines with reputable distribution. Kristen Bell has said it herself, and the name has been on NBC's websites for weeks now. If the question is whether or not the name should be used because it's a spoiler, I ask what it is spoiling? Now, her dad is conceivably "somebody", so if her name were something like "Elle Suresh" or "Elle Linderman" I could understand the need to keep it off the page. But "Elle" does not spoil anything and can be used freely. For a deeper discussion of this topic, see Talk:Bob--there are a couple discussions on that page regarding the subject and this wiki's use of outside sources to occasionally name articles. The desire to keep spoilers off the site is admirable, but does not need to infringe on every source outside of canonical sources. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:42, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
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Looks like a train crashed into this article. <_< Thrashmeister 22:25, 22 October 2007 (EDT)