Theory:Adam Monroe: Difference between revisions
imported>Milbury And the writers certainly could bring Adam back, if they wanted to. They've talked about bringing Isaac back - if Isaac can return, Adam certainly can. |
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{{minus}} Linda is dead.<br /> |
{{minus}} Linda is dead.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There is a gap of 19 years between his marriage before Trina and Trina. He could have been involved with her between those times as Linda died in 1972, while Adam married Trina in 1977.<br /> |
:{{plus}} There is a gap of 19 years between his marriage before Trina and Trina. He could have been involved with her between those times as Linda died in 1972, while Adam married Trina in 1977.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Adam said his "eleventh bride". Trina was number ten, Adam would have married his eleventh bride after Trina, Linda Tavara was killed before he even married Trina.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It is possible for two human beings to be engaged before one of them dies.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Linda was already dead when Adam and Trina were married.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Daphne Millbrook]]. || None. || {{plus}} She seems to be [[Hiro]]'s nemesis in [[Season Three]] - she and Adam may team up against Hiro.<br /> |
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{{plus}}She is rumored to be romantically involved with Hiro. He could break her heart thus her wanting revenge. <br /> |
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{{minus}} In the dark future, Daphne is married to Matt Parkman and the two have a child ([[I Am Become Death]]). <br /> |
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:{{note}} In Heroes, The future changes very often. Nothing from the future is reliable evidence.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Usutu painted a painting of Matt carrying Daphne, linking his future relationship with her.<br /> |
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{{note}} Adam could not have foreseen the above information.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Angela Petrelli]]. || None. || {{plus}} Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with [[Kaito]], therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If this is true, and Arthur found out about this, that would explain him killing Adam, rather than using his blood to cure himself.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It is possible that Arthur killed Adam simply because he wanted Adam's ability for himself.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} However, as Adam said, he could, "be of use" to Arthur, and Arthur is no stranger to using people when it would help him. He could have easily used Adam, then taken his power once he was no longer of any use, meanwhile using Adam's blood to keep himself alive and well.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam seemed to have a positive opinion of his eleventh bride, whereas Angela was the first he implicated as the possible thief of the formula.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None. || {{plus}} Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and [[Knox]]) in [[Angela's dream]] of the dark future ([[The Butterfly Effect]]).<br /> |
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{{minus}} In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli ([[I Am Become Death]]).<br/> |
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:{{plus}} Thanks to Future Peter's interference, that future may no longer exist.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam didn't know that.<br /> |
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. || None. || {{plus}} As of ''[[Dying of the Light]]'' Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed.<br/> |
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:{{note}} We don't yet know whether Arthur's power theft is permanent and irreversible; regenerators have otherwise recovered from worse before.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Err, when have any regenerators recovered from being turned to dust?<br /> |
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::{{minus}} What's worse than being turned to dust? Other than being [[Gravitational manipulation|completely obliterated]].<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Ground zero when Sylar nuked Costa Verde, thats what. Both Peter and Future Claire survived that. (Okay, not worse than being dumped into a mini black hole, granted...)<br /> |
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::::{{minus}} Nathan managed to survive Peter's explosion with severe burns. It can be reasonably deduced that Peter and future Claire would fare even better. <br /> |
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:::::{{plus}} Nathan was present at considerably farther away than either Future Claire or Peter were; Peter wasn't even visible in the distance when he exploded.<br /> |
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::::::{{minus}} Nathan had also been exposed to Peter's radiation for a significant amount of time before he actually exploded, which would have lessened his resistance even further.<br /> |
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::::{{minus}} Additionally, Adam Monroe is basically destroyed. He no longer has a body to regenerate or a brain to do it.<br /> |
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| Adam was in fact born in the "present" day and taken back in time and left there. || None. || {{plus}} It seems that the company created "powers" rather then having them evolve from nothing.<br/> |
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:{{minus}} [[Peter Petrelli (exposed future)|Future Peter]] says that only some of the evolved humans were created.<br /> |
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{{minus}} In the 400 years that Adam has endured, he has met people along the way with powers.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Although these characters could have also been taken back at some point.<br /> |
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| Adam is the mastermind behind the Season 3 plot. || Adam and Maury Parkman are both seen in Angela's dream, and Arthur Petrelli is not. || {{plus}} Maury has the ability to fake both his own and Adam's death. |
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:{{minus}} If Adams death was faked, how the hell did Arthur gain his ability?<br /> |
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::{{note}} Adam could have let Arthur take his ability to fake his own death. Adam knows he could regain his ability with the formula.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Adam died the moment he lost his ability, not even the imperfect formula was ready, he'd have died the same way, not something that would've been in his plans.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury may be able to suppress others' powers by manipulating their minds, while also able to portray Arthur as alive and having powers.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} This also explains how Arthur had telepathic communications with Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury has worked for Adam in the past. Maury seems to take the role of a follower, not a leader.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The other main villain to return from the dead may have all been a hallucination manufactured by Maury.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would be totally awesome.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It's probably just wishful thinking.<br /> |
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| The manifestation of [[Adam]]'s ability was related to the [[1671]] [[eclipse]]. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when [[Hiro]] was there.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. [[Peter]] mentions a dream he had in [[Villains]] about [[Nathan]] and [[Heidi]] in their accident at the same time it was occuring, which was 18 months before the total eclipse that was assumed to activate most of the other main characters' powers.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] died after [[Arthur]] absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None. || {{plus}} [[Claire]] was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed.<br /> |
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{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} And there's no way viruses or infections (which are from bacteria) could have killed him that quickly and turned him to dust that quickly either.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} If it wasn't from is ability being taken away and him aging quickly, then the most plausible explanation would be that Arthur used an unknown power to kill him after taking Adam's ability.<br /> |
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{{note}} The human body is full of important non pathogenic bacteria, and without them humans would lack important nutrients, such as vitamin B complex.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Viruses and infections would not lay dormant. His body may have constantly had to fix damage due to viruses or bacteria (unlikely), but they would not be dormant.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] survived until [[2007]] because the [[eclipse]]s that give and take away [[powers]] only happen every 370 years. || Total solar [[eclipse]]s are rare [[events]]. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, [[1973]] (7 min 3 sec). || {{plus}} 1603 (Total [[eclipse]]) + 68 years = [[1671]] (Annular, gives and takes away powers) [[1973]] (Total eclipse) + 34 years = [[2007]] (Hybrid [[eclipse]], gives and takes away)<br /> |
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{{plus}} But if [[Hiro Nakamura]] was never sent to [[1671]], then [[Adam]] would've still became evil. He could trick [[Hiro]] into [[teleporting]] him to [[2011]], where he would release the [[Shanti virus]] and take over the world. So that [[Adam]] could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with [[freezing]] put him in that state.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]]'s eleventh wife will never be revealed. The plot is canceled. || They did the same to [[Caitlin]]. || {{plus}} Caitlin's fate was supposed to be seen in Volume Three: Exodus, but that volume was canceled. Adam's eleventh bride could have been planned to appear in that same volume, and that's why she was never mentioned again.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The volume being canceled could also explain Adam's alias "[[Richard Sanders]]" - he could have been originally intended to be [[Niki]]'s ancestor, but because of the Writers' Strike, and cancellation of Exodus, they added [[Tracy]]'s, [[Barbara]]'s and [[Dr. Zimmerman]]'s storyline, to "spice things up".<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. || Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. || {{plus}} Adam's character came to prominence during Season 2, which aired while the infamous Writer's Strike was going on. Adam became a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Older BTE interviews stated that they had to kill Adam to establish Arthur Petrelli as villain.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The writers had other ways of building up Arthur Petrelli - the way they did it was heavy-handed and more or less shoved Arthur down the viewer's throats.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Maybe that's what the writers wanted.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The most recent Behind the Eclipse scorned the possibility of Adam returning in Volume 4, remarking about Adam's thorough death scene.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Bringing him back could bring back some lost viewers.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} As the writers said, bringing him back at this point is difficult. There were not many lost viewers when Volume 3 was written, other than those that were lost during Volume 2.<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} According to the [[Nielsen Ratings]], Volume 2 had a considerably better viewership average than Volume 3.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam's role in the story has been marginalized since his death, despite his important role prior to Season 3.<br /> |
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:{{note}} By the same logic, the writers must resent Monica and West as well, since they were simply not mentioned at all.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Some ''fans'' certainly hate West, and some fans and writers regard Monica as a milquetoast character.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The aforementioned Behind the Eclipse alluded to 'dirty laundry' and fights behind the scenes. Perhaps a grudge against David Anders is among this dirty laundry.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The dirty laundry in question is probably about Volume 4, which Adam's not a part of.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} The dirty laundry mentioned nothing about specifics - whether it was about Volume 4, future volumes, Adam, or anything like that.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} "''Gives us a peek inside the Writers Room. How far along into Volume 4 are you? Have there been any “Charlie Arguments” of “150 Hour Tests” of late?'' |
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:::''As of answering this question, we’re all done with Volume 4. ''Lots of arguments along the way.'' But we’re not one for airing out our dirty laundry, so we’re gonna keep our fights to a minimum.''" Along the way clearly refers to Volume 4.<br /> |
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::::{{plus}} There could be arguments along the way of Volume 4 that aren't related to Volume 4.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} There is little reason to believe they were referring to a decision that had already been made, or that the writers have a grudge against David Anders.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He may have been written back in so he could be written out in a more humiliating way.<br /> |
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Revision as of 17:42, 20 February 2009
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The following fan theories are about Adam Monroe.
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Theories
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| Adam Monroe is the ancestor of Claire Bennet. | None. | + They both have the power of rapid cell regeneration.
+ They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.
+ Adam's second wife was an Italian woman who bore him two sons. These sons might be ancestors of the Petrelli's and, through Nathan, an ancestor of Claire.
+ As Kensei, Adam used the symbol as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice. |
| Adam Monroe can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. | None. | + His body is charred in Out of Time, yet he is seen in the future.
+ He was able to witness the kiss between Hiro and Yaeko, even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed.
- If rapid cell regeneration also allowed users to clone themselves, this would make Julien's ability completely obsolete.
• Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission. |
| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. | None. | + Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death. + Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.
- Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up. |
| Peter can kill Adam by using phasing. | None. | + Linderman was killed when D.L. phased his hand into his head and removed his brain.
+ Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration. |
| Adam's eleventh bride has an ability similar to Molly's. | Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei) | + It is impossible for anyone else to know where Hiro took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to find people.
- His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Elle. | None. | • The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship. + Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (Four Months Ago...)
+ Elle is the only person besides Peter that Adam has had major contact with in the past 30 years.
+ In Four Months Ago..., the Haitian chased Peter while Elle chased Adam. Peter was easily caught, and he was far more powerful than Adam. It is possible that Elle purposely let Adam escape.
+ Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (Four Months Ago...)
- There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's new prison.
- Elle's First Assignment was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.
- Adam seems to dislike Elle.
- Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born. |
| Adam can still be brought back to life. | As of episode 307 it appears that Arthur Petrelli may have been cremated, and then somehow brought back to life. Although it is possible he was not cremated at all, if he WAS, then this would suggest that although Adam was reduced to ashes, he could be revived in much the same way Arthur was. | • Adam was developed so perfectly in season two to be such a clever silver-tongued villain, I would be extremely disappointed with the producers if he met his end so simply. + An urn is clearly shown at Arthur's funeral.
+ Nathan says "But I saw..." to Peter at the end of episode 307 as if to suggest he saw his father dead, or being cremated.
- This is probably mostly just wishful thinking.
- There is no brain left to allow him to regenerate. He is dust. |
| Adam's eleventh bride doesn't really exist. | None. | + The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.
+ The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in Heroes. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Jessica or another of Niki's alter egos. | None. | + She has the strength to free him from his coffin. + She could've got her last name when Adam was using the Sanders name.
- How would she find him?
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| U.S. President James Monroe was a descendant of Adam. | None. | + They share the last name. + Adam was born over a century before President Monroe. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Linda Tavara. | None. | + Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator. - Adam already had a wife during the seventies, Trina.
- Linda is dead.
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