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| One member of [[the Company's founders]] had the ability to control weather. || [[Bob]] claims that a light Miami snowstorm should have been a tsunami. (''[[Out of Time]]'') || {{plus}} Weather manipulation would account for this.<br /> |
| One member of [[the Company's founders]] had the ability to control weather. || [[Bob]] claims that a light Miami snowstorm should have been a tsunami. (''[[Out of Time]]'') || {{plus}} Weather manipulation would account for this.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The person could have worked for [[the Company]] and not be one of the twelve.<br /> |
{{minus}} The person could have worked for [[the Company]] and not be one of the twelve.<br /> |
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{{note}} Technically speaking, tsunamis are NOT a type of weather. They are ocean waves caused by earthquakes on the ocean floor.<br /> |
{{note}} Technically speaking, tsunamis are NOT a type of weather. They are ocean waves caused by earthquakes on the ocean floor.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br /> |
:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave. |
::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br /> |
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| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None. || {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br /> |
| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None. || {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Charles Deveaux]] is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping [[Adam]]. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. [[Petrelli]] are not the good guys.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Charles Deveaux]] is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping [[Adam]]. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. [[Petrelli]] are not the good guys.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> |
{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived). |
:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br /> |
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| The photograph is not a picture of the entire [[group of twelve]]. || [[Kaito Nakamura]] told [[Angela Petrelli]], "Charles Deveaux. Linderman. Your husband. All of them. Dead. Now there are nine." (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'') || {{plus}} Everyone in the photo who has been identified is a member of the group of twelve, but this doesn't necessarily prove the unidentified people are.<br /> |
| The photograph is not a picture of the entire [[group of twelve]]. || [[Kaito Nakamura]] told [[Angela Petrelli]], "Charles Deveaux. Linderman. Your husband. All of them. Dead. Now there are nine." (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'') || {{plus}} Everyone in the photo who has been identified is a member of the group of twelve, but this doesn't necessarily prove the unidentified people are.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The fact that cutouts of the heads are being used to intimidate members of the group doesn't prove anything either. It only means that everyone that Monroe intended to kill is in the photo.<br /> |
{{plus}} The fact that cutouts of the heads are being used to intimidate members of the group doesn't prove anything either. It only means that everyone that Monroe intended to kill is in the photo.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Kaito Nakamura|Kaito]] says 3 of the twelve are dead and 9 are left but he also says ''all of them'' meaning there could be more.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Kaito Nakamura|Kaito]] says 3 of the twelve are dead and 9 are left but he also says ''all of them'' meaning there could be more.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It's possible that Adam is simply not counted among the twelve. According to [[Bob]], he brought the twelve together. That does not necessarily mean he was a member. |
:{{note}} It's possible that Adam is simply not counted among the twelve. According to [[Bob]], he brought the twelve together. That does not necessarily mean he was a member.<br /> |
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| The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None. || {{minus}} The [[journal female 4|journal female]] was of Russian/Polish decent. [[Victoria Pratt]] was clearly American.<br /> |
| The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None. || {{minus}} The [[journal female 4|journal female]] was of Russian/Polish decent. [[Victoria Pratt]] was clearly American.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> |
{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If [[Victoria Pratt]] was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate. |
{{minus}} If [[Victoria Pratt]] was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br /> |
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| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None. ||{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense |
| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None. ||{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'') |
{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> |
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| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None. || {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br /> |
| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None. || {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an [[evolved human]].<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an [[evolved human]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} It is implied by [[Angela]] that the twelve came together to save the world.<br /> |
{{plus}} It is implied by [[Angela]] that the twelve came together to save the world.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'') |
{{plus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> |
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| Victoria Pratt's ability was genetic manipulation. || None. || {{plus}} It's strongly hinted that all founders have powers.<br /> |
| Victoria Pratt's ability was genetic manipulation. || None. || {{plus}} It's strongly hinted that all founders have powers.<br /> |
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{{plus}} That would explain why she was a bio engineer.<br /> |
{{plus}} That would explain why she was a bio engineer.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br /> |
{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br /> |
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{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula|the formula]]. |
{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula|the formula]].<br /> |
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| The remaining Company founders are not dead. || None. || {{plus}} When Kaito was talking to Angela (Four Months Later), he mentioned that Charles, Linderman, and Arthur Petrelli were dead, and nine remained. <br /> |
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:{{minus}} There was plenty of time between Kaito's and [[Matt]]'s confirmation that the remaining founders were also dead. They could have been killed after Kaito.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Kaito could have been the first one to be killed, this explain why he mentioned that.<br /> |
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{{note}} If they are remaining, they are obviously alive! |
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|Richard Drucker is also a founder of the Company. || Evidence from Hana Gitelman's website suggests he was an instrumental part of the Company. || {{plus}} Clip 3 of the recent updates says that Drucker and Charles Deveaux were good friends in college. It also says that "Deveaux and Drucker were part of a tight-knit group of friends who all shared the same ideals." This has to be a reference to the Company and its founders.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Drucker isn't in the group of twelve picture.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Adam Monroe is also not pictured but he was a founder of the company. And it also says in the clip that "in 1977, Drucker suddenly split and moved to Bangalore." This could have been before the picture was taken.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Drucker formed a secret society that is still active. |
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| Drucker is a founder of the Company and either he has the ability to control weather or helped to build a machine to control weather. || Crayon drawings done by Drucker as a child. || {{plus}} All the drawings depict radio waves flowing through the sky, but one shows movements of clouds. This could possibly mean an additional power of controlling weather.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} No evolved person has more than one power.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It has already been stated that Drucker has the "wireless" power.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would be consistent with what Bob said about how Miami snowstorm could have been a Tsunami. It would also be consistent with the theory that Drucker was a member of the Company.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It has been stated that Drucker has the same power as Hana, wireless communication. He was the "godfather" of the Internet and helped all the countries he has been to excel in technology. |
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| The [[:Image:Unnamed woman 2.jpg|unnamed woman]]'s name is Suzanne Amman. || None. || {{plus}} In the image of the group of twelve the post-it appears to read "Suzanne Amman".<br /> |
| The [[:Image:Unnamed woman 2.jpg|unnamed woman]]'s name is Suzanne Amman. || None. || {{plus}} In the image of the group of twelve the post-it appears to read "Suzanne Amman".<br /> |
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{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common... |
{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common... |
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|[[Peter]], [[Nathan]], [[Mohinder]], [[Hiro]], [[Claire]] |
| [[Peter]], [[Nathan]], [[Mohinder]], [[Hiro]], [[Claire]], [[Elle]], [[Matt]], [[Tracy]] or [[Barbara]], [[Noah]], [[Sylar]] and [[Maya]] will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. || None. ||{{plus}} Their relation to the [[The Company's founders|original group]] may influence it.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle is dead. |
{{minus}} Elle is dead.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his anamalistic behaviour after he injected himself with |
{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his anamalistic behaviour after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br /> |
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|Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None. ||{{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br /> |
| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None. || {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and [[Maury]] |
{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed [[Maury]], both are in the group of twelve.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve. |
{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br /> |
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| One member of the Company's founders had the ability to control weather. | Bob claims that a light Miami snowstorm should have been a tsunami. (Out of Time) | + Weather manipulation would account for this. - The person could have worked for the Company and not be one of the twelve.
- The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.
- Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.
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| The group of twelve have been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. | None. | + They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.
- If the Group of Twelve had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then Charles Deveaux would have recovered and would not have needed Peter Petrelli to be his hospice nurse.
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| The photograph is not a picture of the entire group of twelve. | Kaito Nakamura told Angela Petrelli, "Charles Deveaux. Linderman. Your husband. All of them. Dead. Now there are nine." (Four Months Ago...) | + Everyone in the photo who has been identified is a member of the group of twelve, but this doesn't necessarily prove the unidentified people are. + The fact that cutouts of the heads are being used to intimidate members of the group doesn't prove anything either. It only means that everyone that Monroe intended to kill is in the photo.
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| The journal female who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than Victoria Pratt, the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. | None. | - The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American. + Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry. |
| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. | None. | + Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense. - The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers. |
| The Company's founders all have powers, although some of them may be passive. | None. | + Angela Petrelli, Arthur Petrelli, Adam Monroe, Daniel Linderman, Maury Parkman and Robert Bishop all have displayed powers. - Kaito Nakamura and Victoria Pratt haven't displayed powers of any kind.
+ Harry Fletcher and Paula Gramble are on the list what implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans. |
| Victoria Pratt's ability was genetic manipulation. | None. | + It's strongly hinted that all founders have powers. + An ability of this extent could easily give her a position in the founders. |
| The unnamed woman's name is Suzanne Amman. | None. | + In the image of the group of twelve the post-it appears to read "Suzanne Amman". - In Behind the Eclipse, it was asked whether her name was Susan Ammaw, and the writers corrected only that it was Amman. |
| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. | None. | + Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company. - The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis. |
| Peter, Nathan, Mohinder, Hiro, Claire, Elle, Matt, Tracy or Barbara, Noah, Sylar and Maya will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. | None. | + Their relation to the original group may influence it. - Elle is dead. |
| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. | None. | + Linderman, Maury Parkman, Victoria Pratt, Bob Bishop and Kaito Nakamura were all murdered on purpose. + Arthur Petrelli might be trying to stop that happening. |
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