Talk:Sylar (explosion future)
Linderman?
Okay, so I noticed during some of Sylar/Nathan's dialogue, he says things that are very similar to the things that Linderman said to Nathan during .07%, especially the parts about the world being united in grief, then being just united. I'm wondering if this indicates that either, Sylar was just going off of Nathan's memories of Linderman (assuming that he can access his vicims' memories), or that Linderman was, perhaps, one of his victims. Or am I just reading too much into this? Joser Kyind 17:03, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
- At present, there's no way to tell. Nathan may simply have made a lot of speeches about the incident uniting the nation after the Explosion, and Sylar is just following Nathan's lead. It's quite possible that Linderman died in the explosion, since he took Micah to New York to fix the election, and Micah is known to have died in the explosion. --Ted C 17:12, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
Induced Radioactivity?
Do we have proof that Future Sylar had acquired Ted's power? Puff0rx 09:18, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Mhh you got a point. The fact is people added to the Known Acquired Powers section powers form latest episodes. That shouldn't been have done. Actually, future Sylar is Sylar as we see him in Five Years Gone, and not how Sylar will become in the episodic timeline. So as far as Sylar doesn't use induced radioactivity in 5YG, we can't say future Sylar acquired this power. The fact he killed Ted in Landslide tells us he NOW has this power but we shouldn't confuse future Sylar and "how Sylar will become in the future. Future Sylar as we saw him in 5YG WON'T ever exists, so how could he have induced radioactivity ? I hope it's clear. And ... Am I right ? -- FrenchFlo (talk) 10:06, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- The whole world believed Sylar was the bomb, but Peter admitted to being the bomb in Five Years Gone. Sylar never demonstrated the power and was never the bomb in any timeline. Even in String Theory, FHiro says Sylar was the bomb, but he may have been misled just like the rest of the world. Though FSylar may have had Ted's power, he never demonstrated it, and there's enough evidence that he may not have had it. I'm not ready to include it here. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:20, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Aye, it is a little confusing--but I think there are three timelines: In the first timeline (the one before Hiro messed with it), Sylar is the bomb, not Peter cause Peter is dead (after meeting Sylar in Mohinder's apartment). But after Peter saves Claire (timeline 2), Peter is able to survive his combat with Sylar and becomes the bomb himself. In timeline 3, Hiro stops Sylar from further-provoking Peter and gives Nathan enough time to get him high enough that he wouldn't cause damage to the city. The Sylar we see in FYG is Sylar (future timeline 2) [induced radioactivity power unconfirmed]. We never see Sylar (future timeline 1) [with induced radioactivity power], but I think we should note him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:58, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Just a general note we should try to keep speculation to a minimum in the articles concerning what we've never actually seen in the other timelines since we really can't and shouldn't extrapolate what might have happened in each one. We don't know who the bomb was in the original timeline for instance, we were never told and there's no way of knowing exactly how events would have unfolded had Future Hiro not delivered the message to Peter. I'm not sure if we've got speculation in the articles right now, but we need to make sure we don't start making assumptions. (Admin 11:08, 26 May 2007 (EDT))
- True, but we do know for sure that the Sylar (future) covered from the article is from timeline #2 so that should be noted.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:13, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Exactly. I was just throwing out that statement to make sure we don't start assuming too much in general about things that have happened in other timelines that we didn't actually see. :) (Admin 11:15, 26 May 2007 (EDT))
- True, but we do know for sure that the Sylar (future) covered from the article is from timeline #2 so that should be noted.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:13, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- I don't think Peter was killed by Sylar at Mohinder's apartment in the original timeline where Claire died because Future Hiro knew him (he said he looked different without the scar), and Future Hiro's memories are of the original timeline. I just think Peter probably didn't become involved at all pre-explosion, because his visit from FHiro was the impetus for everything (finding Claire, meeting Isaac, stopping Sylar, stopping the explosion)--Hardvice (talk) 12:02, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Ok, I added the note and left my speculation about Peter's death out of it. Peter had already met Mohinder and Isaac pre-explosion. In my latest theory about the original timeline, Peter never saves the cheerleader but does meets Claude who scars him when they fight/practice--cause Peter wouldn't have tk or regeneration powers. Hiro and Ando continue on to NYC and meet Peter at Isaac's loft. Peter has the scar and tells Hiro about when he met Mohinder on the subway. Later, Peter goes back to Mohinder's apartment and averts being killed by Sylar because Hiro is with him. It does make more sense for Peter to live in timeline #1 since FHiro knows Peter/Niki are together in timeline 2.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:33, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- Just a general note we should try to keep speculation to a minimum in the articles concerning what we've never actually seen in the other timelines since we really can't and shouldn't extrapolate what might have happened in each one. We don't know who the bomb was in the original timeline for instance, we were never told and there's no way of knowing exactly how events would have unfolded had Future Hiro not delivered the message to Peter. I'm not sure if we've got speculation in the articles right now, but we need to make sure we don't start making assumptions. (Admin 11:08, 26 May 2007 (EDT))
- Aye, it is a little confusing--but I think there are three timelines: In the first timeline (the one before Hiro messed with it), Sylar is the bomb, not Peter cause Peter is dead (after meeting Sylar in Mohinder's apartment). But after Peter saves Claire (timeline 2), Peter is able to survive his combat with Sylar and becomes the bomb himself. In timeline 3, Hiro stops Sylar from further-provoking Peter and gives Nathan enough time to get him high enough that he wouldn't cause damage to the city. The Sylar we see in FYG is Sylar (future timeline 2) [induced radioactivity power unconfirmed]. We never see Sylar (future timeline 1) [with induced radioactivity power], but I think we should note him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:58, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- The whole world believed Sylar was the bomb, but Peter admitted to being the bomb in Five Years Gone. Sylar never demonstrated the power and was never the bomb in any timeline. Even in String Theory, FHiro says Sylar was the bomb, but he may have been misled just like the rest of the world. Though FSylar may have had Ted's power, he never demonstrated it, and there's enough evidence that he may not have had it. I'm not ready to include it here. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:20, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
Zach's voice.
Was it really Zach's voice that we heard before Hiro and Ando jumped through time? I was kind of under the assumption that it was Mohinder, giving his all to hold back the door, what with the battle still raging the moment Hiro and Ando left. DannyP 19:52, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
- I assumed it was Mohinder when I first saw the episode. I deleted the note since it's very speculative anyway. (Admin 21:34, 26 May 2007 (EDT))
Why isn't he dead?
Future Hiro told Ando and his Alter Ego from the past, that he stabbed Sylar, but due to Claire's regeneration ability, he didn't die. This is why Hiro went back in time, to assign Peter with the task to "save the cheerleader". Well, Peter saved Claire in his timeline, which lead to Claire being alive in the Dark Future. So - why is Sylar still alive, then? Hiro stabbed him, as he told his counterpart, but why didn't Sylar eventually die? He shouldn't have been able to regenerate, since he never was able to take Claires enhanced cell regeneration. This is kind of a paradoxon.