Talk:Villains future

Name

Villains Future? I would of called it Formula Future or P.O.D. --Skywalkerrbf 08:10, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Angela's dream

Regarding the Ali Larter character; how do we know it's Jessica? Given the recent events, I'd guess ('cause guessing it is) that it is Tracy. Pierre 10:07, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• Since this is a deleted scene from season 2, I'd say that she was supposed to be Jessica. But you're right, I'm gonna change it now. Chrisyu357 10:46, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Alternate Future?

I don't really get, why this is an alternate Future. I know Peter changed it when he travelled back in time but since this won't be undone I think this is the actual present time of the story and will continue to be the main timeline.--Spielor 22:30, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• This is the future that was created when Peter came back. The formula was never stolen nor did level 5 have a jailbreak in his future. Since this is the future that is trying to be prevented, it is a possible future. --  Seclusion  talk / contribs 22:38, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• But I don't think they are trying to reverse the events of the formula being stolen or the Level 5 bad guys breaking out. I think they will just deal with these problems instead of going back again and change it all over again. I admit that Tokyo being destroyed and Hiro being killed by Ando is a possible future they are trying to prevent but these other more recent events will still stay as they are.--Spielor 23:03, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• How did Peter returning from the future allow the formula to become stolen? I'm pretty sure that still happened in his future. What was different was that the formula became useless in his future as those with abilities became looked upon as freaks, and were tracked, hunted down and imprisoned regardless of whether they were heroes or villians.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:08, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• Even though I still stand by my earlier argument, I disagree with you on that one. If Peter hadn't shot Nathan, Hiro would have been one of the hunted people and couldn't have opened his fathers safe, thus never allowing Daphne to steal the formula.-- Spielor 23:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• Hiro is in Japan now. How would they know about Hiro and how would word spread to Japan fast enough to stop him from opening the safe? It seems to me a bigger leap that the formula wouldn't get it. However, we don't know either way what did happen so all we need to do is say that on the page to be correct.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

• I assume you're talking about the "The Butterfly Effect" section? I think it's there because those dreams and paintings are of the future, but those really belong in Angela's dreams, Examples of precognition, etc, not an article about a time travel timeline. Josh 23:42, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
• If Peter hadn't shot Nathan, Hiro could have still opened his safe because the situation where evolved humans are hunted takes place 4 years in the future. We don't know when that began (nor do we know if there is a difference between the formulas yet...so it's possible that the formula from Kaito's safe is the one responsible for the mass ability distribution and thus the hunting of evolved humans). How do we know that Tokyo wasn't destroyed in the Evolved Future timeline, and that both are the same timeline, just currently altered? As it stands right now, this reads as two timelines going on at the same time, when it should probably be one timeline and a rift. In previous seasons, things were changed in the past without splitting it into a possible timeline (which implies that the future was altered, even if we were unaware of it...eg - Future Hiro tells Present Peter to save Claire, which he does, which would have changed Future Hiro's future, even though it didn't change thing sto be how Future Hiro intended, but theyre listed as one), so I think this and the Exposed Future should probably be merged.