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Invisible Invisibility

Hey! Why was invisiblity removed!? Heroe 20:31, 12 January 2007 (EST)

It actually wasn't removed, it was hidden. If you edit the page, you'll see it there. Regardless of whether it's there or not, we don't include any information that hasn't aired. Since Claude hasn't appeared (nor is invisibility) yet, they don't belong until January 22 (can't wait, can't wait). - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:47, 12 January 2007 (EST)

Table of contents

Should we make a table of contents so someone can go right to a certain power? I tried doping that, but I couldn't get it to work Heroe 23:27, 2 February 2007 (EST)

  • I tried adjusting the template to make the Powers links section headings, but it didn't work. We have anchor tags, though, so we could do a manual TOC. That's probably a better option since it lets us do a horizontal one.--Hardvice (talk) 00:00, 3 February 2007 (EST)
  • OK, got one. Lemme know what you think.--Hardvice (talk) 00:21, 3 February 2007 (EST)
    • That's good, only I think we should also include the section on fan theories in there. Heroe 00:37, 3 February 2007 (EST)
      • Hmmm. The Theories template doesn't put in a linkable anchor tag, and since the section title is piped, it's a pain to jump to. I'll see what I can do.--Hardvice (talk) 00:42, 3 February 2007 (EST)
    • The TOC is great. Simple and neat, pretty cool. It'll be especially nice when our list of powers grows. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:50, 3 February 2007 (EST)

Theories

Ok, help again. Now I noticed the Theories link leads to the Theories portal. I think it should lead directly to the Power Theories page, but when I edited it to do that, it wouldn't work. Could someone do that? Heroe 10:28, 4 February 2007 (EST) * If there's a page that's linking to the Theories portal instead of the proper page, it's because the {{theories}} template isn't being used properly. See the new Usage instructions at the template or the new instructions at Help:Theories and Spoilers.--Hardvice (talk) 13:04, 4 February 2007 (EST)

  • Unless you mean that Theories goes to the portal, in which case it should. There are now separate pages for each kind of theory. Why would we redirect Theories to only one of them?--Hardvice (talk) 13:05, 4 February 2007 (EST)
  • Nevermind. I get what your saying now. It's fixed. I added Theories:Powers midway through the process, and forgot to go back and add it to the template. It's fixed.--Hardvice (talk) 13:14, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Dale & Enhanced Hearing

Should Dale's Enhanced Hearing power be added to the list yet or when she appears in next weeks episode?--The Empath 14:25, 13 February 2007 (EST)

  • There's a bit of discussion ... uh, somewhere (Talk:Portal:Portals?) about how to treat these previews. For now, we should treat them like previews: spoilers only, no mentions or links from main articles.--Hardvice (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2007 (EST)
    • Yeah, we did the same thing with Claude's invisibility. We knew about that one forever, but we essentially waited until the episode aired. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:38, 13 February 2007 (EST)
      • Would it be safe to reveal Dale now? The episode has been aired and all we need is a screen capture. Japanimation14 (talk) 23:11, February 19 2007
        • I'm pretty sure it's ok now. :P --Riddler 23:13, 19 February 2007 (EST)

Hana's Power.

Would be a nicer image for her power, now that it's been shown in the... show? lol. While we can't see her physically do it... we DO have this. I can snapshot any part of the opening scene, as well as Dales original scene... since there are clips at NBC. --Riddler 23:25, 19 February 2007 (EST)

  • Yeah, I definitely think we need to lose the GN picture now. The IM seems like the best choice to me. The image would need to be reuploaded, though: 450x350, and possible better quality. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:26, 20 February 2007 (EST)

Also, "acquisition"

According to Sylar in Roadkill... he calls his "Evolutionary Imperitive" (power): "Acquisition". Being the idiot I am, I didn't know what that meant really, so I googled it.

  1. the act of contracting or assuming or acquiring possession of something; "the acquisition of wealth"; "the acquisition of one company by another"
  2. something acquired; "a recent acquisition by the museum"
  3. learning: the cognitive process of acquiring skill or knowledge; "the child's acquisition of language"
  4. skill: an ability that has been acquired by training

The first and third one seem to sum up his power very well. Maybe better than "Intuitive Aptitude"?--Riddler 23:28, 19 February 2007 (EST)

  • Furthermore,
  1. Learning is the process of acquiring knowledge or skill through study, experience or teaching. It is a process that depends on experience and leads to long-term changes in behavior potential. Behavior potential describes the possible behavior of an individual (not actual behavior) in a given situation in order to achieve a goal.

The way they describe it sounds alot like Sylar, and his behavior.--Riddler 23:35, 19 February 2007 (EST)

I wouldn't say it's his "power" per se as much as it is what he does with his ability. Kind of a reach, but it's like saying Micah's originally-thought power was "telephone-fixing" when we know that's something he does with the ability. Granted, he definitely acquires abilities, but so does Peter. Bob - 19 Feb 22:41 CST

  • Read the definitions though: Learning (what he does when he studies, such as the watches he repaired, or the books about brain removal, or even what most of us theorize he does with the brains), and aquiring, what he does when he steals powers. I think it sums it up nicely.--Riddler 23:44, 19 February 2007 (EST)
    • You're right, Sylar does acquire powers, and he might use his intuitive aptitude to do it. However, that's still speculation. We have no idea if somebody else is also capable of stealing a power, so we don't know if power theft is a power or just one of Sylar's crimes. That's why it's just a subcategory of powers right now. The reason we don't call it "power acquisition" is to distinguish it from empathic mimicry, Peter's power. "Power theft" is a bit more ... active. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:18, 20 February 2007 (EST)
    • Also, "acquisition" just seems too ... vague. It gives no information as to what he acquires, or how, and, as Ryan notes, we're not even 100% sure he uses his ability to understand how things work to acquire powers. The word fits, but it's just too broad.--Hardvice (talk) 01:30, 20 February 2007 (EST)

Peter included with absorbed powers?

Since Sylar is listed with the powers he has taken, should Peter also be listed with the powers he has demonstrated he has absorbed? Granted, he's not the only person with these powers (unlike Sylar who makes sure of that via murder), but he does possess these abilities. Just a thought, figured I'd put it up. Bob - 19 Feb 22:58 CST

  • Now that some of the pages have been changed to reflect this, I have to say I really dislike it. For one thing, sooner or later Peter will be listed on every power. For another (and it's a close distinction), Peter doesn't really have the powers -- he just copies them. For example, if he were injured in a way that prevented him from accessing Claire's power (say, a sudden, unanticipated bullet to the back of the head), he wouldn't necessarily heal automatically like she would; Sylar, if he stole her power, probably would. For a third, it makes the portal look really crowded. For a fourth, it makes the whole "empathic mimicry" power and article seem kind of redundant. I think it's sufficient that each power article notes that he has mimicked it (and thus presumably has free access to it, provided he has time to call it up), and that it's noted as an available power on empathic mimicry. But maybe that's just me.--Hardvice (talk) 04:36, 20 February 2007 (EST)
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