User talk:Hardvice

Archived talk: October 2006 - November 2006

.ogg files

Admin says the site accepts .ogg - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:47, 4 December 2006 (EST)

• It won't allow me to upload them. Just tried.--Hardvice (talk) 13:48, 4 December 2006 (EST)
  • Try it now. (Admin 13:54, 4 December 2006 (EST))
    • Eeeeeexcellent!--Hardvice (talk) 14:03, 4 December 2006 (EST)
      • Thanks for all that work -- I'm still having a hard time hearing it on my computer, but I think I just need to d/l some different software. Thanks so much! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:17, 4 December 2006 (EST)

Future AOTW

• We're potentially going to run into a problem with the way we do AOTW I think. If we use <noinclude> to carve up articles into AOTW-friendly formats and that article is the default page we show for a given disambig then we're going to break that disambig page since we use inclusion to display that default page. hmm. (Admin 17:51, 5 December 2006 (EST))
  • We can always create an AOTW template article, and cut and paste into it instead. Less glamorous, more effective.--Hardvice (talk) 17:52, 5 December 2006 (EST)
    • Yeah, I was thinking we may have to do that. Just wanted to bring it up before we started going through and tagging the articles. Would be great if MediWiki let you transclude specific sections in an article (without having to do something messy like breaking it up into separate pages per section and then transcluding the sections that way) (Admin 18:00, 5 December 2006 (EST))
      • There's not a way to user ParserFunctions to test if a page is loaded from a redirect or not, is there? That would let us fix the disambig problem instead ... just put the notice on if the pagename doesn't equal the link name or whatever.--Hardvice (talk) 18:05, 5 December 2006 (EST)
        • The following parser variables do not show a difference between a Redirect and a Real Page: PAGENAME SUBPAGENAME ARTICLESPACE ARTICLEPAGENAME ... I don't think there's a way to do it. --Orne 18:22, 5 December 2006 (EST)
          • Damn. I'd much rather have Hiro link to Hiro Nakamura than be a dummy redirect page. The objection to the disambig notice was that it was too obtrusive, right? Maybe we can just stick a "For other uses of the term Hiro, see Hiro (disambig)" note in the Notes section, rather than putting a disambig note at the top. That we, we also don't have to worry about people linking to Hiro (and now Mohinder) and the reader getting a page they can't edit.--Hardvice (talk) 18:28, 5 December 2006 (EST)
          • There may be a way to do it. I think if you do an #ifeq between the FULLURL and the LOCALURL + PAGENAME, that will pick up the difference between the reference page and the real page. The Reference will have a URL of what you clicked, while the Variable will have the name of the articled display. If these are different, you are in a Reference, and not the real article. I will test when I get home. --Orne 18:51, 5 December 2006 (EST)
          • Is Redirect: 'no'
          • Never mind... found that the Wiki Documentation says that variables are rendered based upon the article in which they exist... not the parent article that may subst or redirect to that article.

For the rendering on page A, these variables depend on page A, 
even if page A contains the variable due to inclusion of page B. 
Variables in the sort key of a category tag refer to the page with 
the tag, not the category page where it takes effect.

Google hits

Dave, could you explain to me how Google hits work? I mean, is it possible to increase our hits there? How does Google determine which sites to list first? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2006 (EST)

• There are a lot of factors and Google doesn't really publish them (so people don't cheat), but the one thing that seems to make the biggest difference is having a lot of other pages link to you.--Hardvice (talk) 00:40, 6 December 2006 (EST)
  • Basically, if you run a legitimate site and don't try to beat their system, then if you're in fact one of the best sources, then you'll be ranked way up there. Lots of people spend time doing search engine optimization and then the search engines change their algorithms and you and up dropping. Basically if we work towards having the most and best content, then we'll do well in the rankings because lots of people will voluntarily link to us and Google's indexes will have our content indexed. I can also tell you that in my experience Google looks at the age of the site as well... and since we were basically the second major wiki for Heroes info (first being Wikipedia) we will do well in the rankings. (Admin 00:48, 6 December 2006 (EST))

Anal Retention

Very nice, very nice - you retain anal cavities so well, Dave! ... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:24, 7 December 2006 (EST)

I...dont think that's what it means. :) (Admin 00:28, 7 December 2006 (EST))

Obsolete images

• Hey, Hardvice. Concerning the deletions, what do you consider to be obsolete images? (Admin 14:27, 8 December 2006 (EST))
  • When we have a duplicate of exactly the same image. If the new one's better, I move it into the old one and delete so we don't have to relink 30 articles.--Hardvice (talk) 14:29, 8 December 2006 (EST)
    • Ok, perfect, thanks! (Admin 14:38, 8 December 2006 (EST))
    • I wish there was some way to see the images from various episodes. Maybe we could add a catagory, to help break them up.. and reduce the chance of duplicates (which appears to be a chronic problem in my case). -- (Yoshie 14:30, 8 December 2006 (EST))
      • We can add extra categories for images by episode (like [[Category: Images from Genesis]] or something like that). It'd be some work, but it would be beneficial in the long run.--Hardvice (talk) 14:35, 8 December 2006 (EST)

Re: Welcome aboard.

Thanks. It's good to be here. --Fezir 16:19, 8 December 2006 (EST)

Old Versions of Pics & Pic Categories

Dave, thanks for the info on getting old pics ... PS, I agree that, though a lot of work, categories for pics from each episode might really be a good idea. Maybe a hiatus project. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:35, 8 December 2006 (EST)

Are we in England?

No, but I grew up there. Damn, I've been so careful about that so far. Now you know my terrible, terrible secret.--Hardvice (talk) 16:09, 9 December 2006 (EST)

I knew that'd get you -- I read your LJ page, and how you sometimes spell with British conventions. I think it makes you more colourful ... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:12, 9 December 2006 (EST)

Screencaps

You rock! Thanks! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2006 (EST)

New user log

• I added an extension to make a new user log available. It's one of the options in the Special:Logs dropdown. Any new user accounts created should show up here from now on. Thought you might be interested. :) (Admin 19:26, 11 December 2006 (EST))
  • Eeeeexcellent!--Hardvice (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2006 (EST)

New Power Caps

Dave, thanks for all your work on those screencaps - they look amazing! I can't wait to plug them into some galleries ... Thanks for all your continued hard work on the site - it's very much appreciated! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:25, 12 December 2006 (EST)

Re:Page Protection

Without giving too much away, lets just say I know a thing or two about a wiki. For now, you may find it easy to leave the main page open for any to edit, which is cool in the initial stages. However, If this wiki picks up steam, which it looks like it will pretty soon, page protection no longer becomes if, but when. Just giving a heads up. --Jay (talk) 18:21, 14 December 2006 (EST)

I'm an admin on a Wiki with much more traffic and a notorious history of vandalism than here. Even there, we barely bother to protect pages. It still takes only seconds to zip down the list of someone's contribs and revert everything, especially in a tabbed browser.--Hardvice (talk) 18:25, 14 December 2006 (EST)

When you say notorious, are we talking about Wikipedia? --Jay (talk) 18:37, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Nope Encyclopedia Dramatica. Since it's basically just people saying horrible things about other people, it's almost all vandalism.--Hardvice (talk) 18:39, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Good to know. Well, I've left a detailed message on Admin's page --Jay (talk) 19:04, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Finding Unsourced Pics

Okay, so I'm looking for more unsourced pics, and I need a fresh brain (mmm, yummy). According to our Statistics, we have 724 files uploaded right now. However, the copyright picture is only linked to 605 files. I know not every file will have a copyright picture, but I would think the 2 numbers would be a bit closer. Any thoughts on how to find a any images that are still missing their source? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:04, 16 December 2006 (EST)

• The first time I did it, I went through them all one at a time (we didn't have a template then, so they just got labeled "screen cap"). More effective, less fun. It's possible to do the same now: we could just make a list of image categories and check them off one at a time (like we're doing with the "Images from (Episode)" categories on Current events). Given that most of the images are properly done, it should go pretty fast. Other than that, I can't think of an easy way to search for images that don't have particular text on them.--Hardvice (talk) 03:36, 16 December 2006 (EST)

Email

• Hey, did you get the email I sent you? (Admin 01:20, 18 December 2006 (EST))
  • I don't appear to have gotten it. It's possible the spam filters ate it. Never mind, found it. Spam filters ate it. Shouldn't happen again.--Hardvice (talk) 11:49, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the tips

Dave, thanks for the help and the tips. I really appreciate it! The rollback feature makes so much sense - thank goodness vandalism hasn't become a huge problem yet for the site. But I've always wondered how you were able to revert vandalisms so quickly. Mystery solved ... I changed my prefs to make my edits patrolled. I liked your method, though, to go back and still edit my own - heaven knows I make my full share of typos! ... Thanks again! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Dead End -> Suicide

Very funny, very funny indeed. I'm lol-ing right now! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:53, 19 December 2006 (EST)

Can I borrow your brain?

Okay, I just brain-dumped on the portal page - hope that helps.

Let me say how much I love the McDonald's Cash Register look of Portal:Portals! To answer you question, I think the best way to link it is a big ol' "portals" link on the main page. Maybe at the top or the bottom, something that says, like, "Welcome to Heroes' [sic] Wiki! Choose a topic." Then list the portals. And yes, I'm directly stealing this from Lostpedia's main page -- but it works!

Hope that helps... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2006 (EST)

pic size

What size do you want it? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:26, 21 December 2006 (EST)