Graphic Novel talk:The Natural Order of Things
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Mind Transfer
Why does the title card state that Matt transferred Nathan's mind? Did I miss something? I thought he just erased his memories and implemented the simple command "You are Nathan"?
- They made Sylar used clairsentience to get Nathan's memories. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:23, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Which is an important distiction, I guess. So this is still Sylar believing he's Nathan, not Nathan in Sylar's body.--LongBlackCoat 07:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Technically, yeah. But it might as well be Nathan in Sylar's body. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Might one day matter, like when to decide if to whack him or not to whack him. I bet Noah has considered this. There's always a plan, right? ;-) --LongBlackCoat 07:38, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Guys, no mind transfer. Remember Peter when the Haitian erased his memory? What, would you say that there was no man in Peter's body? Come on. -- Altes 11:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Huh? Lost me here... I agree that no mind transfer took place, that's why I started the topic: I was wondering about the introduction of the Gn.--LongBlackCoat 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- It's a combination. Parkman used telepathy to wipe Sylar's memories of himself (as Arthur did to Angela in regards to his plan to kill Nathan). Sylar already knew a good deal of Nathan's history, through the objects he touched. Matt, using telepathy, made Sylar believe these were his own memories, and likely induced a few that he personally knew as well. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 13:51, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Huh? Lost me here... I agree that no mind transfer took place, that's why I started the topic: I was wondering about the introduction of the Gn.--LongBlackCoat 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Guys, no mind transfer. Remember Peter when the Haitian erased his memory? What, would you say that there was no man in Peter's body? Come on. -- Altes 11:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Might one day matter, like when to decide if to whack him or not to whack him. I bet Noah has considered this. There's always a plan, right? ;-) --LongBlackCoat 07:38, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Technically, yeah. But it might as well be Nathan in Sylar's body. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Which is an important distiction, I guess. So this is still Sylar believing he's Nathan, not Nathan in Sylar's body.--LongBlackCoat 07:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
Meredith
Can we take this GN as confirmation that Meredith is dead or no? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:23, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Yes. "all these deaths".... bunch of people... Meredith Gordon. Therefore, Meredith was one of the "deaths", and so Meredith is "dead". --Radicell 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
Meh
A bunch of swipes from the show, for the GN following a finale? Lame. --Action Figure 09:49, 28 April 2009 (EDT)\
- Why, it was nice to see them again. Volume One was brilliant. -- Altes 11:40, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I honestly thought it was the best GN to date --IronyUTC CH 11:55, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I'm taking your name at face value. --Action Figure 12:26, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Witty :) --IronyUTC CH 15:11, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I agree with Irony (that is if he is not being ironic) this was the best GN to date. I also like the allusions to the first GN Graphic Novel:Monsters (the first GN that Mohinder was in) and the fact that every major character to date was present. I thought it was AMAZiNG. Great. I also thought that this GN really sealed what I felt was the worst character direction of the show (Mohinders journey) I understand Mohinder better thanks to this GN. Random guy 23:41, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Witty :) --IronyUTC CH 15:11, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- This GN was the equivalent of a sitcom clipshow. --Action Figure 00:31, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
- Here is a comparison from the first page of each
Random guy 00:07, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Character Appearances
Definitely a new GN record :/ Advic 10:06, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Speaking of Character Appearances, who is the man who looks to be getting electrocuted in the crosswalk? Random guy 00:19, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
D.L.
Standing still, brave like an army, like he was never shot by Linderman. Meh. -- Altes 11:40, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Mohinder was having a flashback of events that happened in his life. That happened to be a very critical one; the event where all the heroes gathered in one place for the first time to take on Sylar. In his mind, everyone there was a hero and did their part to fight Sylar and it is represented by him fighting by their side.--Halfxwitted 12:13, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- D.L. is a tank, he is invincible and he is still alive. --DocM 14:57, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
background image
In the image with sylar standing surrounded by the heroes could someone photoshop out the word bubble and turn it into a background image for my desktop. You would be so awesome to do this.
More evolved humans so far
The Into the Wild, Part 3 states:
(Into the Wild, Part 3 features more evolved humans than any other graphic novel: Connie Logan, Donna Dunlap, Bianca Karina, Julien Dumont, Paul Harding, Felicia Brooks, Manuel Garcia, and Sebastian Shell.)
I think it would be changed, cause The Natural Order of Things features now more evolved humans (26) than Into the Wild, Part 3:
* Mohinder * Tracy * Peter * James Martin * Claire * Eden * Charlie * Dale Smither * Isaac * Ted * Alejandro * Bob * Elle * Meredith * Sylar * D.L. * Niki * Micah * Matt * Nathan * Hiro * Molly * Maya * Arthur * Ando * Angela