Graphic Novel talk:The Natural Order of Things
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Mind Transfer
Why does the title card state that Matt transferred Nathan's mind? Did I miss something? I thought he just erased his memories and implemented the simple command "You are Nathan"?
- They made Sylar used clairsentience to get Nathan's memories. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:23, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Which is an important distiction, I guess. So this is still Sylar believing he's Nathan, not Nathan in Sylar's body.--LongBlackCoat 07:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Technically, yeah. But it might as well be Nathan in Sylar's body. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Might one day matter, like when to decide if to whack him or not to whack him. I bet Noah has considered this. There's always a plan, right? ;-) --LongBlackCoat 07:38, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Guys, no mind transfer. Remember Peter when the Haitian erased his memory? What, would you say that there was no man in Peter's body? Come on. -- Altes 11:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Huh? Lost me here... I agree that no mind transfer took place, that's why I started the topic: I was wondering about the introduction of the Gn.--LongBlackCoat 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- It's a combination. Parkman used telepathy to wipe Sylar's memories of himself (as Arthur did to Angela in regards to his plan to kill Nathan). Sylar already knew a good deal of Nathan's history, through the objects he touched. Matt, using telepathy, made Sylar believe these were his own memories, and likely induced a few that he personally knew as well. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 13:51, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Huh? Lost me here... I agree that no mind transfer took place, that's why I started the topic: I was wondering about the introduction of the Gn.--LongBlackCoat 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Guys, no mind transfer. Remember Peter when the Haitian erased his memory? What, would you say that there was no man in Peter's body? Come on. -- Altes 11:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Might one day matter, like when to decide if to whack him or not to whack him. I bet Noah has considered this. There's always a plan, right? ;-) --LongBlackCoat 07:38, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Technically, yeah. But it might as well be Nathan in Sylar's body. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Which is an important distiction, I guess. So this is still Sylar believing he's Nathan, not Nathan in Sylar's body.--LongBlackCoat 07:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
Meredith
Can we take this GN as confirmation that Meredith is dead or no? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 07:23, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Yes. "all these deaths".... bunch of people... Meredith Gordon. Therefore, Meredith was one of the "deaths", and so Meredith is "dead". --Radicell 07:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
The GN is from Mohinder's perspective, so that may mean that since he believed Sylar to be dead (although we know he's not), he may also believe Meredith to be dead (though she may not be). Criminally Vulgar 16:23, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
Meh
A bunch of swipes from the show, for the GN following a finale? Lame. --Action Figure 09:49, 28 April 2009 (EDT)\
- Why, it was nice to see them again. Volume One was brilliant. -- Altes 11:40, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I honestly thought it was the best GN to date --IronyUTC CH 11:55, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I'm taking your name at face value. --Action Figure 12:26, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Witty :) --IronyUTC CH 15:11, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- I agree with Irony (that is if he is not being ironic) this was the best GN to date. I also like the allusions to the first GN Graphic Novel:Monsters (the first GN that Mohinder was in) and the fact that every major character to date was present. I thought it was AMAZiNG. Great. I also thought that this GN really sealed what I felt was the worst character direction of the show (Mohinders journey) I understand Mohinder better thanks to this GN. Random guy 23:41, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Witty :) --IronyUTC CH 15:11, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- This GN was the equivalent of a sitcom clipshow. --Action Figure 00:31, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
- Here is a comparison from the first page of each
Random guy 00:07, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Character Appearances
Definitely a new GN record :/ Advic 10:06, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Speaking of Character Appearances, who is the man who looks to be getting electrocuted in the crosswalk? Random guy 00:19, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Speaking of character appearances, could it be noted that this is the first graphic novel that Tracy and Niki have both appeared in? Criminally Vulgar 16:19, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
D.L.
Standing still, brave like an army, like he was never shot by Linderman. Meh. -- Altes 11:40, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- Mohinder was having a flashback of events that happened in his life. That happened to be a very critical one; the event where all the heroes gathered in one place for the first time to take on Sylar. In his mind, everyone there was a hero and did their part to fight Sylar and it is represented by him fighting by their side.--Halfxwitted 12:13, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- D.L. is a tank, he is invincible and he is still alive. --DocM 14:57, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
background image
In the image with sylar standing surrounded by the heroes could someone photoshop out the word bubble and turn it into a background image for my desktop. You would be so awesome to do this. —Gamerelite1 19:44, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
- Here ya go, if you're still posting here. Image:Sylar being surrounded.jpg. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 07/17/2009 10:53 (EST)
More evolved humans so far
The Into the Wild, Part 3 states:
(Into the Wild, Part 3 features more evolved humans than any other graphic novel: Connie Logan, Donna Dunlap, Bianca Karina, Julien Dumont, Paul Harding, Felicia Brooks, Manuel Garcia, and Sebastian Shell.)
I think it would be changed, cause The Natural Order of Things features now more evolved humans (26) than Into the Wild, Part 3:
* Mohinder * Tracy * Peter * James Martin * Claire * Eden * Charlie * Dale Smither * Isaac * Ted * Alejandro * Bob * Elle * Meredith * Sylar * D.L. * Niki * Micah * Matt * Nathan * Hiro * Molly * Maya * Arthur * Ando * Angela
Tracy freezes the mirror
Don't tell me she saw Jessica in her reflection and did her best to shut her up. -- Altes 06:20, 17 July 2009 (EDT)