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checklist for Betty, Part 1

Checklist for Betty, Part 2

checklist for Betty, Part 3

New graphic novel checklist

See also current episode checklist

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_X_ Betty
_X_ Black-haired cheerleader
_X_ Brown-haired cheerleader
_X_ Ren
_X_ Crash
_X_ Redhead cheerleader

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_X_ Black-haired jock
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_X_ Crash's father

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_X_ Women in Refrigerators

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_X_ Betty's high school
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New novel

I won't be around much today--in fact I'm heading out in about 10 minutes for the rest of the day. Enjoy the new novel, y'all. If anybody has any questions for Ryan Odagawa, go ahead and list them here and I'll ask him when I get home tonight. Have a great day! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:44, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Can we confirm that "Crash" is the jock who tripped Ren in episode 1? --Ted C 12:07, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
    • Yes. Ryan told me that Crash is the same jock that tripped Ren. He will be getting a real name sometime in the next two issues. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:51, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
  • What cars did you model in the scene of the school parking lot? Do you find auto's harder to draw than other backgrounds or people? Was that the biggest challenge for this section? There were a lot of new characters introduced for this section; was that a time challenge?--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:26, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
    • From Ryan Odagawa: "I used the Pontiac Solstice, because that's my friend's car and my Scion Tc. Funny thing is the Solstice is the exact same car as Jazz from the Transformers movie." "Biggest challenge was to get picture reference of my friends, who live all around and a few that live in Florida. I had to use their webcam and print screen on my computer." -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Personally, I want to know if the Asian rumor guy is him. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:31, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
    • It's not. But, "I drew myself along with my friends on page 1 of Story 1, standing at the lockers." -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

Screencaps

I gotta run, but I just noticed that the main image might need some work. I'm not opposed to the choice of image (though it's not my favorite--I like to avoid cutting off text boxes when possible), it's just that it's not uploaded over Image:Gn betty p2.jpg, which I linked on the site last night. We'll probably have to upload over Image:Gn betty p2.jpg, and then either delete Image:Betty2cap.JPG or just use it somewhere else. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:56, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

Timeline

Part 1 listed this series of graphic novels as occuring "not long ago". I would assume 1990's or later, but I haven't noticed any evidence to narrow it down.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

  • I doubt I'll get a straight answer, but I'll ask Ryan O. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:39, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
    • Maybe you can get him to tell you what year model those cars are from. ;)--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:48, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
    • From Ryan Odagawa: "I have no idea when it takes place. I assume not very long ago, well, based on what happens in the last story." -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

Let me guess... I can see the plot now...

Here's my prediction...

Part 3, the jocks sought revenge on Ren, and somehow accidentally killed him. Betty vows revenge.

Part 4, Betty sought revenge, big incident, brought her to attention of Primatech, and took new name of Candice.

--Kschang 16:27, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Fixed the name (should be Candice with an 'i' according to on-screen credits). I think that there's at least two other ways it could go if Betty is with/near Ren when they attack him:
1) She tries to help, but only ends up making things worse. Ren ends up dead and Betty ends up in the hospital, when her dad, Mr. Linderman, walks in and tells her everything is going to be okay...
2) She tries to help and manages to scare away the jocks, but Ren and possibly others discover her power. Ren ends up dispising Betty, and the principal expells her and Ren. She goes home to tell her dad what happened. Then we find out that it's Mr. Linderman and he tells her everything is going to be alright...--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Too bad if Thompson is actually her father...--Unfalln 00:08, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
    • Eh, that could work too. Doesn't really matter now that both Linderman and Thompson are both dead.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:11, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
      • But when you consider that Eric Roberts has a bit of a Petrelli jaw, it could have more serious implications. --Unfalln 02:58, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Oh well, except Primatech part, the prediction did come true. Thus, here's lessons learned in predicting... Keep it simple and somewhat vague. ;D -- Kschang 14:35, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
    • Eh, I was right about her leaving the school after another big incident she created. I think getting expelled or having someone from the Company show up would have been more fun. Oh well.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:58, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Groups

Rumor kids - I think this should be 'Betty's High School Rumor Kids' if we go for a group, but I rather think it'd work better as a theme called 'rumors'. And there's two rumors in Betty, Part 2: one rumor stems from the Crash/Betty incident and the other from when Betty (as Mallory) notes that it could have been the alt-crowd that got to Crash.

Betty's classmates - They show a few in her Chem class that are also in the lunch crowd, but they don't really have a purpose so not worthy of a group, right?

The bathroom cheerleaders of Betty's High School - these three cheerleaders hang out in the bathroom... I think it is worthy of a group

Betty's High School Football Team - since they seem to be planning payback as a group, they might be deserving of group status.

Other opinions?--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:30, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

  • I agree, the "rumor kids" are not really a group. It's basically the entire high school, and it's nothing that can't be summarized on Betty's high school's page. I wouldn't make the bathroom cheerleaders a group--they're just three friends, not the entire squad. I'm sure the girls have other friends, and to point out just those three seems odd to me. The football team might make a nice article. However, if they're never mentioned again, I think it might be too minor--personally, I would wait until we see what happens in Parts 3 and 4. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:21, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
    • Ok, I put the images into the Betty's high school page for now. If we want to move/copy them elsewhere's, we can still do so.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:30, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
      • Yeah, I like what you did with it. Nicely done. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:34, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
        • In case anyone is looking for the rumor stuff, it didn't really pertain to the location so when it was removed from the page and threatened to be deleted I moved most of it to a subpage which I eventually want to become a theme called gossip.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:22, 12 May 2008 (EDT)