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Bliss and horror

Well, I'm thinking it's about time to write an article for Guillame's power. There have been some good [[Talk:Graphic Novel:It Takes a Village, Part 1#Guillame's ability|suggestions]], "mood manipulation" and "hormonal manipulation". My only concern with those is that it's really speculative as to what the guy is actually manipulating. It might be a spiritual manipulation, a chemical manipulation, or maybe he's even making their bellies feel full. And we're really getting to the point where we need a name just to write an article. I'm apt to just call it "bliss and horror" since that's the only name that's even been remotely assigned to it. The name has kind of grown on me this past week, and I agree with Ice Vision, we don't have to tweak every power name. A poetic name given to us by the great Joe Kelly is a good name, even if it's just temporary. I think we should go ahead and use it ... for now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Gotta disagree with you there, Ryan. "Bliss and Horror" works as the description of the power, but not really as the name. I mean, what would we call the past-tense? "Bliss and horrored"? It sounds kinda.. awkward to me. I think we should go with "Emotion manipulation". --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 18:51, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
    • I don't know why you would try to find the past tense of the power. Hardly any power name can be "past tensed." (Clairvoyanced? Invisibilitied?) You would do the same for Guillame that you'd do for, say, the Haitian. "He [[mental manipulation|wiped their memories]]." vs. "He [[bliss and horror|made them feel wonderful]]." And to be honest, I have strong reservations against "emotion manipulation" because I'm not positive that's what he did to the Tonton Macoutes. Very possible, but it's speculation until we find out more. I'm not saying "bliss and horror" is the end-all be-all name, but we're getting to the point where we really should write an article, and it's the only name we've been given so far. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
      • How about maybe "Person manipulation"? I know that sounds lame, but all we've see Guillame do is manipulate people.Hero!(talk)(contribs) 19:29, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
        • I don't know why you're so against "bliss and horror." Yes, it's a bit awkward, but I'm not making up the name--it's mentioned more than once in Village, Part 1. "Person manipulation" is a nice try at being non-speculative, but it really doesn't describe his power at all. I actually think "emotion manipulation" or "mood manipulation" will be fine once we find out more details about the power. But I fear they assume too much right now. I'm just trying to come up with a placeholder name so we can get an article written. The name can be debated and changed very easily after Parts 3 and 4 come out. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • As always I'm opposed to speculation on the exact mechanism or nature of his power. I recommend leaving it as "bliss and horror." If we want to give it another name, I suggest emailing one of the writers and asking for more clarification on exactly what his power is. (Admin 20:44, 5 June 2007 (EDT))
    • Funny, I actually emailed Staz about an hour ago. He's, um, not very "computer literate," so I doubt he'll get back to me anytime soon. He's about 3 for 10 in returning emails. :) My questions, though, were more along the lines of "What is Guillame capable of?" "What does the script say?" and "How did you accomplish the swirly effect?" -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • I personally like "bliss and horror", it's an interesting name and is much easier than making up another name for it.--Ice Vision 21:16, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Haitian's powers: mass erasure?

At the end the entire village was reduced to zombie-blank, right? The Haitian thought he did it. In a huge flash of panic and shame, his mind flashed out "like machete" and erased everybody's mind, except his father's.

Should we accept his word for it? Perhaps it's a combination of his own powers AND his father's powers that caused this wide-area effect? After all, his father is immune to it, right?

Which brings up a very interesting point... Have we ever observed two powers that complement each other, i.e. greater than sum of the parts?

--Kschang 02:34, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • In answer to your first question, we only have the Haitian's word to trust, right? So yes, the only thing to do is to take his word for it. (Besides, Heroes is not one of those shows that tries to trick the viewer for very long--they creative team has been very vocal about the fact that they're in the business of answering questions, so I'm sure if there were something "new" like what you're suggesting, they would have made it a little more clear.) As for your second question, well, really Peter's power is all about using powers in conjunction with each other, right? With the tasers, he used a stop and drop method. And the whole scene at Kirby Plaza was all about powers in tandem. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:10, 21 June 2007 (EDT)