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Guillame's ability
Anyone have an idea of what it could be? --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 10:23, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Well, obviously something that makes one sick and incapacitated. The Haitian calls it "bliss and horror", so it probably has the capacity to make you feel wonderful and/or awful. (I love the guy calling for his mother--nice touch.) But it's way too early to try to name, define, or write an article about it. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:05, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- The best term I could come up with would be "Unspecified Emotional Manipulation", which would dovetail nicely with the Haitian's "Mental Manipulation". Bliss and horror would both play directly on someone's emotions, no? It's too early for its own article, but I don't know that we should say "Unknown" for a power, since we know he has one, and we know its effects. Ultraexactzz 12:34, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- "Mood manipulation", perhaps? Simpler. --DocM 12:45, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- But do we really know what his power is? We know it made a guy throw up. "Induced vomiting" or "Carpenterkinesis" would also work. To me, his power is still unknown until we know more about it. Regardless, I believe the article says "bliss and horror" (non "unknown"), which, while not the name of the power, is the only description we have. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:56, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I like mood manipulation. It seems to fit, but I agree that we should wait until at least next week's article before adding it to the powers page. This is part 1 of a 4-part series.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:09, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Another possibility is that the power isn't focused on other's brains but changes the levels of certain hormones present in one's body (ie. endorphins to create bliss; hCG [pregnancy hormone] to cause horror, etc.). This form of 'hormonal manipulation' could be much more powerful, imho. What would we need to see to confirm this?--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:31, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- One guy is vomiting, the other seems to be feeling sudden, intense pain. It looks to me that the Haitian's father has the ability to cause physical sensations, not "emotions". Renenarciso 14:39, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Which supports the idea of it being 'hormonal manipulation'. Thanks.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I'd be inclined to guess that he can manipulate pain and pleasure centers in the brain. He can make you feel good, or he can make you feel sick, as he chooses. --Ted C 15:00, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- To me, it seemed like he could induce physical stress in a person. But that doesn't fit with the "bliss" part of the description. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 17:25, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Did you see him using his powers towards the beginning of the story? It seems like he's able to relieve stress as well as induce it. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:46, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- To me, it seemed like he could induce physical stress in a person. But that doesn't fit with the "bliss" part of the description. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 17:25, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I'd be inclined to guess that he can manipulate pain and pleasure centers in the brain. He can make you feel good, or he can make you feel sick, as he chooses. --Ted C 15:00, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Which supports the idea of it being 'hormonal manipulation'. Thanks.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I like mood manipulation. It seems to fit, but I agree that we should wait until at least next week's article before adding it to the powers page. This is part 1 of a 4-part series.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:09, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- The best term I could come up with would be "Unspecified Emotional Manipulation", which would dovetail nicely with the Haitian's "Mental Manipulation". Bliss and horror would both play directly on someone's emotions, no? It's too early for its own article, but I don't know that we should say "Unknown" for a power, since we know he has one, and we know its effects. Ultraexactzz 12:34, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I'd prefer it if we don't tweak every power name. "Bliss and horror" sounds better than mood manipulation, emotion manipulation, hormonal manipulation, or whatever.--Ice Vision 21:27, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Bliss and horror is just a temporary name for the power. We call Matt's power Telepathy, instead of just "hearing voices". For now, my vote goes to emotional manipulation, but I think we need to wait until part 2 at least until we decide on a final name. --Piemanmoo 21:22, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
- "Bliss and horror" is sort of a poetic description that is very at odd with how the other powers are named. But we don't know yet how Guillame's powers work, whether it's emotional, physical, hormonal or what. Renenarciso 10:04, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Mr. Bennet knew The Haitian could talk?
So the part where they erase Matt Parkman's memory is from Collision, Right? I did get the impression in Company Man that he already knew, but in the histories it says "In the present, Mr. Bennet discovers that the Haitian can talk". Does this show he already knew? -Lөvөl 11:52, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- It's some sort of an error. Bennet yelled in Company Man "And guess who just found out you can talk!". He thought he was a mute up until that moment. I think the narration from the Haitian is to the reader, not to Bennet. They screwed up with the text bubbles.--Bob 12:10, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I didn't think the word balloons were wrong - I took it as if the Haitian looked into the "camera" and began speaking to the audience in an aside. It's not a fourth wall thing, so much as a segue into the narrarated part of the story. It works, but you're right - it could have been done much better. Ultraexactzz 12:31, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- And his mouth is closed.-User:Citizen
- Yes. Mr. Bennet says he doesn't expect an answer. And then the Haitian starts to tell his story to the audience. Renenarciso 14:41, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I didn't think the word balloons were wrong - I took it as if the Haitian looked into the "camera" and began speaking to the audience in an aside. It's not a fourth wall thing, so much as a segue into the narrarated part of the story. It works, but you're right - it could have been done much better. Ultraexactzz 12:31, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- Maybe the Haitian's going to make Mr. Bennet forget this whole thing afterwards. Conduit 16:51, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
Bulking up?
What happened to bulking up? This graphic novel was back to the standard 8-page format. I thought I read that we were now on a 11-12 pg. format. Hrm.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:12, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I believe that was just for the finale issues. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
Guillame is wearing the symbol
Just for what it's worth. I didn't notice it at first.
- I'll bet the Haitian causes Guillame's death, then takes his necklace to remember him. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
The Haitian's ability
One thing that always intrigued me, and seeing how the Haitian describes here how it feels when he erases people's memories, and Thompson in "Company Man" tells Bennet how the Haitian removed a guy's memories of himself and then drew a picture based on what was removed...
The ability to selectively erase someone's memories must necessarily include the ability to selectively read those memories too. It's not the same thing as Parkman's mind reading though, since Matt reads what is actively on a person's mind in that specific moment, but it's sort of related. How else could he remove this memory and not that memory?
I suppose the Company never used him to read the information in the minds of their captives because he pretended to be mute, and maybe illiterate too, so he had no way to communicate the details of what he read?
In any case, this pertains more to the "Mental Manipulation" article than this one... Renenarciso 15:02, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
Old Crew
Anyone care to guess whether Guillaume is one of Linderman's old cronies? --Ted C 15:03, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- My incling is that he was part of the Company, but not necessarily on Linderman's side... I figure that we aren't going to get the answer within this 4-part novel section: Guillaume is going to get killed in part#2, Chandra Suresh will be meeting the Haitian in part#3 and then Thompson will arrive in part#4. He'll decide to work with Thompson while keeping in touch with Chandra.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- He lived in a remote town in Haiti. I doubt he was part of any organization. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 15:45, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I gotta agree with you there, Heroe. He just doesn't seem like the type to be part of the Company. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I wasn't thinking as part of the Company. I'm thinking he was one of the group before they parted ways. Haiti would be a decent place to hide from the company, though. --Ted C 17:34, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
- I think wearing the Symbol is a tell-tale sign. We have to keep in mind (and it's been presented more than once) that the Company's purpose used to be very different when Linderman wasn't calling all the shots. PS: Angela being associated with the Company was a surprise to me too.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I agree with Heroe as well.--Ice Vision 21:30, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- I gotta agree with you there, Heroe. He just doesn't seem like the type to be part of the Company. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
- He lived in a remote town in Haiti. I doubt he was part of any organization. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 15:45, 29 May 2007 (EDT)