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Date of Death

According to Mohinder, he was killed "nine days ago". Someone who pays attention to the timeline can probably figure out the date.--Hardvice (talk) 01:24, 5 December 2006 (EST)

James Walker's power

Mohinder now has a website. In his wiki he says James Walker had Cryokinesis. I'm putting this here because I'm not sure what the protocol is for information outside of the series.

  • The information in that wiki is added by fans and isn't a reliable source that can be referenced here. In fact there's a good chance it's completely wrong since Sylar apparently froze James Walker prior to stealing his power, so if that's true James couldn't have had that ability. (Admin 09:12, 7 March 2007 (EST))
  • Then again Sylar could have been testing the freezing power after he took it from James Walker (although extremly unlikely). I don't think he did this, I'm just putting this theory out there. I think he had another power, though probably not one very helpful, like Dream manipulation, which, to a serial killer, may not be that helpful. One other thing how do we known that James Walker even had a power?, how could Sylar have found out? He could have used a list, but that doesn't make sense, he could have just keep killing people (and wouldn't have needed Mohinder later on).--Patrick 20:20, 22 April 2007 (EDT)
    • You should read the discussion Ryan linked to. He's frozen mid-bite, then his head his cut open afterwards (it's not a clean cut, but kind of shattered). --Bob 20:21, 22 April 2007 (EDT)
      • We know James Walker had a power because Sylar removed his brain and because Mohinder said he was on the list (Fallout). Sylar found James because he memorized lots of names from the map (Road Kill). Zane was the last name he remembered from the map--it was just good(?) karma for Sylar that Mohinder showed up when he did so he could have access to the list and the happy couple could go EH-hunting. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:21, 22 April 2007 (EDT)
  • Woh. It's been almost a year since someone posted here. James Walker did appear on Gabriel's List in the episode Villians. --ACDC1989 06:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)

James and Mrs. James in The Hard Part

  • If anybody has a good hi-def transfer they can screencap from, we can get not-murdered pictures of these guys. The picture is way too small at Tivo resolution, but we should be able to make decent character portraits from it at 720p.--Hardvice (talk) 16:24, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
    • I uploaded them to my blog, that's the best you'll get. --Norman 16:27, May 8, 2007 (EST)

Picture in Character History

While there might be some, none of the character pages I've read have thumbs in the "Character History" section. Including this shot there looks odd to me. --FissionChips 15:41, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

  • It would certainly look better in a gallery, perhaps with the other photos of his family.--Hardvice (talk) 15:45, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Cryokinesis CONFIRMED

Hooray! We know where the freezing came from!!!![1]

Because i'm new, didn't want to edit it in just yet. --Crazylicious 18:12, 17 November 2008 (EST)

  • Good call. :) It's something that's been speculated about for a while, but the evidence didn't seem to support it at the time. It probably would have been reverted without a link to the CBR interview in the edit summary. While I don't think the scene was very indicative of what the say happened, it doesn't sound like they were playing any tricks with their answer so it seems confirmed to me. (Admin 18:36, 17 November 2008 (EST))
    • Funny, I was sure it was a joke because of the tone and italics used. If he was frozen afterward, then why is his arm in the air like he was in mid-bite? I dont buy this. --Action Figure 00:13, 18 November 2008 (EST)
      • I never did undersand the arguement against James Walker having Cyrokinesis. --Dman dustin 00:15, 18 November 2008 (EST)
      • In the scene James's arm is in mid-air. The conventional argument was that he must have been frozen like that... since had Sylar removed his brain first he certainly wouldn't have left his arm in mid-air like that. That reasoning and the fact that it was never directly stated before was the reason we couldn't attribute freezing to James. Now they've confirmed it came from James so I suppose we have to assume (though not actually state) that he immobilized James using telekinesis first, took his ability, and then froze him afterwards. It's not the most obvious way to interpret the scene based on no other information, but with their comment it seems that's the way they intended it. (Admin 00:40, 18 November 2008 (EST))
    • Assuming no joke, it seems thats the the way they intend it NOW. I am almost positive there was an earlier interview where they said James was NOT the person Sylar got cryo from. I am not going to look through them all to find it, but im pretty sure of it --Action Figure 16:14, 18 November 2008 (EST)
      • More evidence against this being their original intentions (besides the OBVIOUS)... 1, James had no ice INSIDE his skull. 2, this quote, "You know, three months ago my job made perfect sense to me. And then i pulled the Sylar case. Crime scenes with no finger prints, bodies frozen, brains removed..." Audrey said this in Seven Minutes to Midnight, before Charlie was killed. Sylar's previous victim was James.--Action Figure 00:31, 19 November 2008 (EST)
  • Its possible that Sylar is freezing(not ice) James using telekinesis while he was eating, so he can't move leaving his hand in mid-air. Then Sylar stole his ability, and tried it at him....thats what I think--NiveKJ13 11:24, 19 November 2008 (EST)
    • That's not what the writers said. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:26, 19 November 2008 (EST)
      • And either way, thats your theory and thus speculation. Nearly everything would tell you otherwise anyway, and Occam's Razor would say simplest is best here. I think its noteworthy on the page, and I plan to restore the note if it is agreed upon. (Someone removed it without reason, and I can't think of a reason NOT to mention it.) --Action Figure 17:37, 19 November 2008 (EST)
    • Also, the complete quote is, "Yes. That is exactly what we always thought. Killed. Absorbed. Tested. In that order, all in that Craftsman." What does the Craftsman thing mean? This sounds like a joke that I just dont get. --Action Figure 22:09, 19 November 2008 (EST)
      • It's an odd reference, but I think the Craftsman thing is supposed to mean the Walker house (as in American Craftsman design style). From the context, it may be that they mean that he did all three (Killed, absorbed, tested) within the Walker house. --ZyberGoat 03:54, 27 November 2008 (EST)
        • Although it's already been confirmed I am inclined to agree with those who say freezing wouldn't work here. At this time in the show one of the people involved in Heroes, Brian Fuller rings a bell, stated that Sylar was eating his victims' brains, so by this chapter it wouldn't make sense for James' wife was pinned to the to the stairs with silverware, James getting scalped and his brains "digested" while he was frozen in place. This is not mere speculation, this is retconning (is that a word?) on the part of the creators, and they didn't do a very good job. It is very unlikely Sylar would stick around that long either way, with the feds and The Company hot on his trail. It doesn't really matter now but it would've made more sense if Trevor had the freezing.--Inblackestnight 17:22, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

Huh?

So he had cyrokinesis. He was frozen in mid-bite. So James Walker had his brain cut open and Sylar poked around in his brain...and he never once moved? His arm stayed in the air while he was dead? Or did Sylar pose him dramatically before freezing him? --Golden Monkey 10:41, 20 November 2008 (EST)

  • I thought they said he kept him in place with TK. Intuitive Empath 16:05, 20 November 2008 (EST)
    • No thats just a theory. Look at my comment above for the full quote. --Action Figure 19:48, 20 November 2008 (EST)
      • I thought they said he took the ability and then tested it, my guess is that he tested it by freezing James in mid-bite, 11 on Behind the Eclipse 7, there is the link where it says it--Sylarversion2 22:57, 23 November 2008 (EST)
    • I think you must have had your brain removed too... ;) you see the problem with that is that he cant have still been mid-bite AFTER HIS BRAIN WAS REMOVED. Sylar can't test a problem he didnt have yet...
      • Presumably Sylar has a sick sense of humor and posed James in that position before freezing him. --Ted C 16:02, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Trevor-related comments

that said, here's a new BTE quote: 1) “What was Trevor's ability, exactly? Could he shatter objects, the only thing we ever saw him do with his power, or did he essentially fire telekinetic bullets?”

That’s a really good question, St. Sword. A really good one. And our only answer makes us a bit sad. Every once in a while, we hand in an episode with reminders such as “make sure it’s a power that Sylar clearly has when we first meet him” but in the heat and excitement of production, it becomes making glasses explode by pointing your finger. We can’t be everywhere at all times, sadly. So the power as we know, is “pointing your finger and making glasses explode.” At least we understand why Sylar hasn’t used it much.

Pretty much clearly they wanted Trevor's ability to be freezing, and that was changed against their wishes. --Action Figure 23:15, 24 November 2008 (EST)

  • To whoever commented after me, i think you were mistaken, i mean that he took his power, then put him in place with TK and then froze him, so it appeared that he was in mid-bite but he was posed as it similar to a maniken. But he could also have held him in mid-bite with TK and then taken his power and then froze him.--Sylarversion2 21:03, 25 November 2008 (EST)
    • Yes... but WHY would he do that? He wouldnt.. its stupid. Its painfully obvious Trevor was supposed to be the one he got freezing from and because it was changed they made the joke that it was "ALWAYS" the was they saw it. This is definately a joke. It should be removed from the article--Action Figure 20:12, 26 November 2008 (EST)
      • I would definitely says it's far from "painfully obvious" or "pretty much clearly" to say that Trevor was supposed to have the freezing power. You're making a huge speculative jump that belongs in a Fan Theories section, not a talk page - especially when there's zero hint in Joe and Aron's quote that implies he was was supposed to possess freezing. Not to mention the fact that Sylar has previously telekinetically pinned characters down in an attempt to steal their powers. Why would he NOT do that with James Walker? --ZyberGoat 03:52, 27 November 2008 (EST)
  • To me the only way it would make sense that James had freezing, would be if Sylar attacked while James was mid bite, his power activated like Elle's did and it froze him. -Lөvөl 04:09, 27 November 2008 (EST)
  • Great point Level, i believe there are three ways he could've done this. A. He used telekinesis to hold James in place, took his power and then froze James' body. B. He attacked him normally, took his power then set him up like a mannequin and froze him like that, or like Level said he started to take his power then he overloaded and froze himself. My guess is its A. but then again the cut along James' head looks like it curved a little, so B is also an option. No offense Level but i dont see how your theory could work because if he overloaded then i'd think Sylar would've been frozen and James would have died before Sylar unfroze, that is if Sylar cut enough of his head off. My final decision would be A, but the whole curved line in James' head makes me not so sure--Sylarversion2 10:51, 27 November 2008 (EST)
  • I'm agreeing to what Level had said the freezing ability of James was activated when Sylar was cutting his brain. The shows freezing ability was used when the user touch something, so Sylar was not affected because he's far enough from James hands. --Darkfiremaster13 19:34, 20 December 2008 (EST)

james's age

how old is this guy? his mother was in a retirement village in 1967 , so when was he born--Zoga78 17:40, 6 March 2009 (EST)

  • Well, he was at least 39 when he killed. Other than that, we don't know. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:52, 6 March 2009 (EST)
    • He's definitely much older than 39. According to the script for Moonlight Serenade, Ida May was in her 70s when she was killed in that novel. If she is, say 70, and had James at the reasonable but higher age of 40, he would've been born in 1937 and be 69. That seems awfully high. If she had James at 45, he would've been a 64-year-old born in 1942. Fertility treatments didn't really exist in 1947, like they do today, so the possibility of him being born after her 50th birthday (1947, age 59) are next-to-zero. This seems to be a near-continuity mistake, but oh well. Regardless of specific age, James most likely married a younger woman and had a daughter late in life.--Tim Thomason 22:10, 17 February 2010 (EST)

Well, Freezing finally makes sense...

I guess its possible he froze himself, attempting to become ice, just like Tracy in Cold Snap. Too bad Sylar is quicker... :) --Action Figure 06:04, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

  • Tracy didn't become Ice just via her ability. She became ice because of the amount of water on her, the water then froze and froze her through extension.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 06:44, 25 March 2009 (EDT)