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Talk:Ninety angry ronin

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Named or unnamed?

  • I'm torn. On the one hand, "ninety angry ronin" is just a description. On the other hand, Sword Saint refers to them as "the ninety angry ronin", which sounds like a title.--Hardvice (talk) 18:20, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
    • It seems to me like it's the legendary name of one of Trials of Kensei, but is not really the name of the group. I'd bet if you asked the guys, they wouldn't have necessarily called themselves that. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
      • Tru dat. Incidentally, are we going to change all the Heroes 360 sections to Heroes Evolutions?--Hardvice (talk) 18:46, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
        • Ugh. I don't mind if we do it, but I don't want to make all those changes. I know Admin has done a bunch, but that's not my cup of tea right now. Plus, I'd hate for them to change the name again next year....I don't have a definite answer on that. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:49, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Masterless Samurai

Er, I don't think a "samurai without a master" is expected to commit suicide when his master that he does not have dies. I don't know where the wikipedia article gets that and I notice that someone has called for a citation. If the term must be appled in the case of samurai with a deceased master, it was the ones who did not commit seppuku who became ronin. The term can also be applied to an unlanded warrior, mercenaries and really any traditional fighting man who the people in power at the time declared to be "ronin".

A quibble: that Whitebeard set the 90 angry ronin at the temple to guard the scroll, and therefore appears to be their master, makes me question the appellation of "ronin" to them, anyway. But that's what the show calls them ... -- FissionChips 20:26, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

  • We're definitely stuck with "ronin". Perhaps they were samurai who lost their masters and were later organized by Whitebeard--not exactly a perfect definition, but it makes a bit more sense. As for the wikipedia article, your clarification to the article is perfect. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:49, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Capitalize "Ronin"?

It sounds like the title to me... so it'd be capitalized but I could be wrong.--Riddler 21:37, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

  • "Ronin" is not a title any more than "samurai" or "fighter". Above, the issue was brought up of whether or not it's "ninety angry ronin" (a description of the group) or "Ninety Angry Ronin" (a more formal title for the group). "Ronin" by itself is not capitalized. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:49, 11 October 2007 (EDT)