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| Angela knows [[Claude]]. || Angela is caught shoplifting socks (''[[Genesis]]''). Her son [[Peter]] meets a man who uses [[invisibility]] to sort of frame him for purse snatching (''[[Distractions]]''). || |
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{{note}}Claude has behaved as if he encountered people like Peter before — even helped them understand their powers. Perhaps those people include Angela and/or Peter's [[Mr. Petrelli|father]]. |
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| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents. || None || {{note}} Nathan could easily be thirty (he, or Sylar posing as him, was President in ''[[Five Years Gone]]'' and without laws changing one must be thirty-five to become President).<br /> |
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| Angela is an [[empathic mimicry|empath]]. || None. || {{plus}}Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br>{{plus}} [[Claude]] has apparently encountered an empath before, since he seems familiar with [[Peter Petrelli|Peter's]] powers. |
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:{{note}} Although it's implied that Nathan will become President through the death of the current President, if he's not 35, he would be ineligible and the Presidency would pass down the line of succession.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} However, he was not familiar with how an empath's powers work. |
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{{minus}} Arthur bears a strong family resemblance to Nathan, strongly implying a close biological relationship between the two.<br /> |
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::{{note}} This could have been because the Empath he knew had powers that worked differently. Also, he could have intentionally been misleading Peter about how his powers would work.<br> |
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{{minus}} ''[[War Buddies, Part 5]]'' implies that Nathan was born before Arthur and Angela ever met Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Empathy could explain any number of odd abilities she seems to have.<br> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Out of Time]]'' Angela (Evacuation Future) helps [[Peter]] remember who he is by showing him her own life experiences. Peter possibly absorbed her empathic powers to do this.<br> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago...|Four Months Ago]]'' [[Angela]] talks to [[Heidi]] and tries to maintain fysical contact with her by touching her hair and holding her arm where they zoomed in on. It could be that [[Angela]] was sending out an emotion to make Heidi want to leave [[Nathan]]. That could explain [[Heidi|Heidi's]] sudden change of hearts, her leaving [[Nathan]] for a "condition" doesn't seem right. |
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| The agents of the [[Company]] do not realize that Angela has a power. || None || {{plus}} When [[Noah]] returns to help find the Level 5 escapees, he states that he needs a partner, saying "You know how it works: One of us, one of them." Angela responds with "I have the perfect one of them in mind."<br /> |
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|Angela has [[rapid cell regeneration]]. || None.||{{plus}}Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br>{{plus}} She seems to hint at this when she says to Claire, "You get that mouth from me." She had mentioned Claire being able to spit up bullets, so she may have been referring to this. (''[[.07%]]'') |
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:{{minus}} She was speaking of field agents in general. [[HRG]] is "one of us" (the non-powered agents), [[Sylar]] is "one of them" ([[evolved human]] agents).<br /> |
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:{{minus}}It's more reasonable to say that Angela was referring to Claire's rude mouth: "Whether I want to or not." Angela too uses harsh words when she was talking to Peter after the shoplifting incident and in Peter's hospital bed after he tried to fly. She could also have been talking about a physical resemblance. |
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{{note}} Angela is one of the company's founders and presumably keeps a low profile.<br /> |
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:{{Note}} When Angela says "Broken bones and spitting up bullets" she is referring to Claire's power. |
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{{note}} Angela's non-combative power would never be needed on the field.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} However, Peter was not familiar with using his powers by thinking about someone, and he was not aware his mother had powers.<br>{{minus}}He was also not aware that Claire had any powers. He almost certainly suspected that she did, but he had no way of knowing what they were.<br>{{plus}}However, the incident in ''[[Homecoming]]'' occurred before Peter was able to recall powers when their originators were not present, which could explain why he did not exhibit his mother's powers of healing (if she has any). |
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{{Minus}} After she is beaten up by an unknown enemy in [[Lizards]], her wounds dont immediately heal. |
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| [[Angela Petrelli]] is [[Matt Parkman]]'s birth mother. || None || {{plus}} Matt's mother is only mentioned in passing, when Matt accuses [[Maury]] of abandoning them, but never named.<br /> |
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| Angela may be clairvoyant. || None. || Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br>{{note}}When Nathan had his accident, Peter somehow knew about it the moment it happened. Since Peter's abilities are derived from people he knows or has met, he may have been tapping into her clairvoyance. |
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{{plus}} Maury would have no reason to stay with the woman who is not the mother of his son.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}Peter had a dream; it is more likely that his empathy connected with Nathan and he saw the accident through his point of view. He even mentions that he was connected with his brother, and explains to his mother how he was connected -- "No, I'm saying before the call. Like he was telling me, 300 miles away. I woke up, and I knew that he'd been hurt." (''[[Genesis]]'') |
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{{plus}} There is a significant age gap between [[Nathan]] and his brother [[Peter]].<br> |
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<br>{{plus}} [http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx?posting=%7BA0808CD2-D6D2-4774-A36E-F6CA4DCC6BA9%7D Ask Ausiello revealed] that Angela has a power that is "very similar to a power possessed by another hero, only in her case, it takes a lot less effort to get from Point A to Point B." To get from Point A to B is a way to say 'to get from start to finish, or to the end result'. Angela Petrelli's power could be a simpler version of [[Isaac Mendez]]' power - the effort reduced is the fact that she doesn't need to paint to see the future (the end result of Isaac' power). |
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{{plus}} There is a passing resemblance between Matt, Nathan, and Peter.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The timeline of events according to [[graphic novel]], [[War Buddies]] places [[Arthur]] and [[Linderman]] in Vietnam at the time of Matt's birth, before the [[Group of Twelve]] is formed and presumably, Maury and Angela had yet to meet. <br /> |
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{{plus}} Arthur's absence at this time allows Angela to carry a child to term leaving Arthur none the wiser.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela knows how to fight Matt's telepathic probing in [[Cautionary Tales]]. This means she likely has fought off another telepath, like Maury.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela has had much experience from Arthur's own probing.<br /> |
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| [[Angela]] is mother of [[Isaac Mendez]]. || None || {{note}} Isaac's mother is unknown, they both share a similar power (precognition), they both live in New York, [[Carlos Mendez]] was one of [[the Company's founders]]. [[Peter]] hated [[Isaac]] which would be a connection.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The Petrelli family would have noticed Angela being pregnant, since Isaac was younger than [[Nathan]].<br /> |
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| Angela was romantically involved with Victoria Pratt. || None || {{plus}} Victoria had no husband or children.<br /> |
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| Angela has the as-yet unexplained power of transportation. || None.|| {{plus}} Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br>{{plus}} She has possibly referred to the aspect of mental transportation by: 1) knowing Claire spit up bullets, 2) knowing about Peter and Nathan's powers before they did.<br>{{plus}} She has possibly referred to the aspect of physical transportation by: 1) talking about "taking Claire" to Paris. 2) [http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx?posting=%7BA0808CD2-D6D2-4774-A36E-F6CA4DCC6BA9%7D Ask Ausiello revealed] that Angela has a power that is "very similar to a power possessed by another hero, only in her case, it takes a lot less effort to get from Point A to Point B." One interpretation is that it is a physical transportation power of getting from A to B, like Hiro's teleportation.<br>{{note}} Transportation could have both mental and physical applications, therefore allowing Angela to mentally transport into the minds/memories/dreams of others, as well as to physically transport from location to location similar to [[telekinesis]]. It could also be something along the lines of astral projection.<br>{{plus}} She implies that though it didn't seem like she was there for Claire, she was there in ways she might not understand. |
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:{{minus}} Neither did [[Linderman]].<br /> |
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:{{note}} It seems more likely that she was referring to how she was watching over Claire from a distance, such as by ordering the Haitian not to wipe her memory. |
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{{plus}} Angela was highly protective of Victoria's secrets. She thought Victoria's private life and whereabouts were none of Matt Parkman's business, perhaps because she and Victoria were involved.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Matt wasn't a Company founder, but Angela was. The Company founders knew where to look for each other for case they needed to contact.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Victoria preferred solitude and distanced herself from the other founders, yet Angela knew where to find her. Perhaps after Arthur, she sought companionship. It would explain how she knew about her children.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Adam]] knew about Victoria's whereabouts as well. Does that imply he slept with her? Besides, they were the Company founders.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Sure the Company knew everything about the children of its founders.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela had been involved with Kaito and possibly Charles Deveaux as indicated in 1961, it is not inconceivable she was with Victoria.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} A single dance doesn't count as a romance, and nothing suggests Angela at least danced with Victoria.<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no proof Angela is bisexual.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela seemed close to her friend, Millie.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} There is no proof they were more than friends. And even if they were more than friends, it doesn't mean that there was ever a relationship between her and Victoria, or even that Victoria was gay.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} If a woman has a female friend, does that mean they are lesbians?<br /> |
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{{plus}} When Heidi was at the hospital in Four Months Ago, Angela caressed her hair and appeared to be sexually threatening her.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela wasn't threatening Heidi at all, she was manipulating her.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} We've known Angela for a long long time now, we just found out that she has a sister, why not finding out she had a bisexual relationship with Victoria?<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Because it's unneeded.<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} With all the claims of homophobia regard Heroes due to Zach and April?<br /> |
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::::{{note}} Zach is NOT gay.<br /> |
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:::::{{note}} He was supposed to be, but the producers of Sarah Connor Chronicles said no.<br /> |
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| Angela's possible relationship with Victoria and Kaito happened after Arthur's death. || None || {{plus}} Angela seemed to love her husband a great deal.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Her anger towards him occurred after she found out what he was.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} This might just be a physical feature of [[Cristine Rose|the actress]]. |
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{{minus}} He was only believed to be dead for less than two years before the start of the first episode. She said she hadn't slept with Kaito for a long time.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Arthur "died" in the flashback to six months ago in the first Season. Nathan shows up on Peter's doorstep and tells him that "dad died of a heart attack this morning."<br /> |
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{{plus}} Kaito was devoted to his wife, why would he risk Arthur's wrath and her pain by sleeping with Angela?<br /> |
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{{plus}} Grief is a powerful motivator. Losing their spouses could have caused them to look elsewhere.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Regarding Victoria see points above.<br /> |
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| Angela sided with Linderman over NY because of the other possible futures. || None || {{plus}} The future of the explosion future only killed a few million people, the outbreak future killed around 93% of the worlds population and the exposed future caused the world to break apart.<br /> |
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| Angela has the [[power]] to see the past first hand. || None.|| {{plus}} She says to Claire that she can spit out bullets. Unless she could see the past, she wouldn't have been able to know that.<br>{{minus}} The Haitian may have informed her of what happened to Claire.<br>{{plus}} Peter's dream of the past may have been him mimicking her power. (''[[How To Stop An Exploding Man]]'') |
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| Angela didn't love Arthur. || None || {{plus}} She cheated on him with Kaito.<br /> |
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{{plus}} When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} That's because the last time she saw him, she'd tried to kill him (and thought she'd succeeded).<br /> |
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| Angela is the [[hooded killer]]. || None. || {{plus}} If Angela has the power of teletransportation or astral projection, then she could have pushed Hiro's father, and in the middle of the fall, teleport to safety or end the projection. This could be why there is only Kaito's body when Ando looks down. <br>{{plus}} Kaito said that the hooded killer was the last person he expected, and Kaito had a conversation with Angela just minutes ago. Angela could have gone there to kill Kaito the first time, but postponed the plan because Ando was there.<br>{{plus}} Nathan says that she is evil. <br>{{plus}} She received the same death threat that Kaito received; maybe she killed Kaito to "save her skin" and maybe she gave herself the death threat to appear innocent. |
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{{minus}} On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (''[[Villains]]'')<br /> |
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:{{minus}} When she saw the picture on the wall, she was shocked and worried. Why would she pretend to do so when she's alone in the hallway?. <br> {{minus}} The body structure of the [[hooded killer]] was completely different from [[Angela]]'s body, it dosen't make any sense that [[Angela]] was the same person who pushed [[Kaito]] from the roof. |
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:{{plus}} It is possible she fell out of love with him after she learned that he tried to kill their son.<br /> |
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{{minus}} She refers to him as "the man [she] loved".<br /> |
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| Angela has the power of memory restoration. || None. || {{plus}} When [[Angela]] told [[Peter]] that he has to remember, he did so very quickly and accurately. He had been trying hard before but could not. |
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:{{note}} It's possible that her use of the past tense wasn't referring to the fact that he was dead, but implying that she had fallen out of love with him by the time of his death.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} The memories were from Peter's point of view. If he was reading her mind he would see from Angela's POV. |
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{{minus}} Peter did not regain his memories beyond finding out that Angela was his mother; he did not know he had a brother, and he did not recognise Adam.<br> |
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:{{plus}} Angela might have only wanted to restore those memories, instead of restoring all of them.<br> |
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{{minus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', it is shown that Peter can regain his memories by [[rapid cell regeneration|healing]], so he would not need Angela to restore them. |
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| Angela has [[persuasion]] (like [[Eden]])|| In '[[Out of Time]]' Angela tells [[Peter]] to remember who he is. Soon, he begins to remember Angela and finally realizes that she is his mother. || {{note}}Angela may need to be close to a person or touch them in order to do this.<br> |
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:{{plus}} She convinced the police to drop the charges of shoplifting in [[Don't Look Back]].<br>{{plus}} When trying to convince Nathan to just let the explosion happen, she places her hands on his back. Moments later, he is agreeing with her, saying variations of exactly what she said. Later, when Peter reads Nathan's mind, he is thinking the same thing ("It can't be stopped.") over and over again.<br> |
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:{{plus}} In Episode 8 (''[[Four Months Ago]]''), Angela is speaking with [[Heidi]]. During Angela's speech to her, she begins to touch her and even stroke Heidi's hair. In the scene, alot that was shown was of Angela touching her, almost desperate in a way. Then, when she asks Heidi if she can count on her, she suddenly gives a almost hypnotized nod.<br> |
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{{plus}}Angela was able to convince [[Nathan]] to go ahead with [[Linderman]]'s plans, but he changed his mind. Perhaps her power requires "less effort to get from Point A to Point B" than [[Eden]]'s (she doesn't have to use a deep voice), but is also easier to resist.<br> |
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{{plus}} In '[[The Kindness of Strangers]]' Angela was able to convince the police, except [[Matt]], that she was the one who killed Kaito Nakamura.<br> |
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:{{minus}} Eden was able to convince Matt to eat donuts. If Angela has the same power as Eden, she would have been able to convince Matt that she was the killer.<Br> |
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::{{plus}} Now that Matt has developed his power, he might be harder to convince.<br> |
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{{plus}} In '[[Out of Time]]' Angela forced Peter to remember when he could not.<br> |
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:{{minus}} It is more likely that Peter read Angela's memories of being Peter's mother, and thus learned who she was; the theme sound for Matt's [[telepathy]] was also playing in the background at the time. <br> |
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::{{plus}} The memories were from Peter's point of view. If he was reading her mind he would see from Angela's POV.<br> |
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:{{minus}} Peter did not regain his memories beyond finding out that Angela was his mother; he did not know he had a brother, and he did not recognise Adam. |
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::{{plus}}In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', [[Adam]] tells Peter that he can regain his memory by [[rapid cell regeneration|healing]], as Adam does, but he has to exert himself mentally to do this. Angela may have used persuasion only to force Peter to remember her, the relationship she most valued.<br> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', The camera seems to spend a little too much time focusing in on Angela's hand upon Heidi. This is up until she asks her if she can handle keeping Nathan's 'disease' a secret. Heidi agrees, and maybe the "Point A to Point B" part of this ability is that instead of having to say something persuade them, all she needs is to merely touch them. |
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| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents. |
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|| {{plus}} All related characters have powers that are somewhat similar to their parents. For example, [[Matt]] and [[Maury Parkman]]. If Angela is an empath (as theorized above), [[Peter]] has special power empath abilities allowing him to absorb others' powers. Clair's power of regeneration possibly come from Adam (if it's a recessive gene). Nathan's power must come from Angela's side in an unexplained way. |
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:{{minus}}It's not true that all related characters have related powers. There was no example of this until Maury Parkman was introduced. For example, Niki has enhanced strength and D.L. could [[phasing|phase]], but they produced a child with [[technopathy]] (Micah). |
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:Also, [[Nathan_Petrelli|Nathan]] can [[Flight|fly]] and [[Meredith_Gordon|Meredith]] (Claire's biological mom) can [[Pyrokinesis|control fire]], but [[Claire_Bennet|Claire]] can [[Rapid_cell_regeneration|regenerate]]. |
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{{minus}}In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', Adam tells Peter he's been locked up for 30 years. Peter is in his mid-20's, and Nathan isn't much older. This makes it highly unlikely that Adam is their father. |
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|Angela's power is [[Precognition]]. |
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||No episodes cite her use of this power. |
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||{{plus}}[http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx?posting=%7BA0808CD2-D6D2-4774-A36E-F6CA4DCC6BA9%7D Ask Ausiello revealed] that Angela has a power that is "very similar to a power possessed by another hero, only in her case, it takes a lot less effort to get from Point A to Point B.". This could be explaining how she doesn't have to go through the effort of painting a picture to see the future or past, like [[Isaac Mendez]]. Likewise it could be similar to [[Hiro]]'s ability except that she doesn't physically travel through time.<br>{{plus}}[[Peter]]'s prophetic visions are actually a subconcious use of his mothers ability.<br>{{plus}}She avoids death at the hands of [[Adam]]/[[Maury]] by knowing she needs to be arrested in order to be able to be saved.<br>{{plus}}She is also alive in the "[[Shanti Virus]] future" showing she may have insight as to how to survive and keep from contracting the virus herself.<br>{{minus}} Both [[Nathan]] and Angela thought that [[Peter]] was dead at the start of [[season two]].<br> |
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:{{plus}}[[Angela]], more than any other elder, is careful not to give away the existence of super powers. By now she would be self-disciplined enough not to overreact to her visions. Or may not even have control over them, they may just to come to her, seemingly at random. |
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:{{plus}}[[The Haitian]] has probably not yet informed her of [[Peter]]'s current status. |
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The following fan theories are about Angela Petrelli.
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| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents. | None | • Nathan could easily be thirty (he, or Sylar posing as him, was President in Five Years Gone and without laws changing one must be thirty-five to become President).
- Arthur bears a strong family resemblance to Nathan, strongly implying a close biological relationship between the two. |
| The agents of the Company do not realize that Angela has a power. | None | + When Noah returns to help find the Level 5 escapees, he states that he needs a partner, saying "You know how it works: One of us, one of them." Angela responds with "I have the perfect one of them in mind."
• Angela is one of the company's founders and presumably keeps a low profile. |
| Angela Petrelli is Matt Parkman's birth mother. | None | + Matt's mother is only mentioned in passing, when Matt accuses Maury of abandoning them, but never named. + Maury would have no reason to stay with the woman who is not the mother of his son.
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| Angela is mother of Isaac Mendez. | None | • Isaac's mother is unknown, they both share a similar power (precognition), they both live in New York, Carlos Mendez was one of the Company's founders. Peter hated Isaac which would be a connection. - The Petrelli family would have noticed Angela being pregnant, since Isaac was younger than Nathan. |
| Angela was romantically involved with Victoria Pratt. | None | + Victoria had no husband or children.
+ Angela was highly protective of Victoria's secrets. She thought Victoria's private life and whereabouts were none of Matt Parkman's business, perhaps because she and Victoria were involved.
+ Victoria preferred solitude and distanced herself from the other founders, yet Angela knew where to find her. Perhaps after Arthur, she sought companionship. It would explain how she knew about her children.
+ Angela had been involved with Kaito and possibly Charles Deveaux as indicated in 1961, it is not inconceivable she was with Victoria.
- There is no proof Angela is bisexual.
+ When Heidi was at the hospital in Four Months Ago, Angela caressed her hair and appeared to be sexually threatening her.
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| Angela's possible relationship with Victoria and Kaito happened after Arthur's death. | None | + Angela seemed to love her husband a great deal. + Her anger towards him occurred after she found out what he was.
+ Kaito was devoted to his wife, why would he risk Arthur's wrath and her pain by sleeping with Angela? |
| Angela sided with Linderman over NY because of the other possible futures. | None | + The future of the explosion future only killed a few million people, the outbreak future killed around 93% of the worlds population and the exposed future caused the world to break apart. |
| Angela didn't love Arthur. | None | + She cheated on him with Kaito. + When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.
- On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (Villains)
- She refers to him as "the man [she] loved".
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