Talk:Super speed

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources	Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources	Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine super speed's name.

Exert greater force?

• Exerting greater force wouldn't make you run faster. It would make you jump higher. At best, it could give you some kind of gigantic stride, but it's not gonna help you run up walls.--Hardvice (talk) 16:06, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Super speed

• The power the agent exhibits is super speed. Common names come before descriptive names. Therefore we HAVE to change it. It is all in the power naming convention. Am I wrong? *eats pie to cope with Heroes withdrawl* Jason Garrick 16:30, 16 December 2007 (EST)
  • I'm not sure where they "enhanced speed" and "enhanced strength" are not common names comes from. I think it is, as "Hippolyta" and "Ant" both use "enhanced" instead of "super".--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:52, 16 December 2007 (EST)
    • It's all the same to me. And judging from the general disdain the community has towards power name changes at the moment, I'd rather not stir up anything for what I consider to be an even trade. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:54, 16 December 2007 (EST)
      • That doesn't make any sense. If Jason can show evidence that "super speed" is a common name and "enhanced speed" is not, then I think we should change it. That said, I don't think this is the case so it should stay the same.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:00, 16 December 2007 (EST)
        • Well, common or not, doesn't it make sense to change all "Enhanced"'s to "Super" to keep up with Super Strength, since Super Strength is canon?--Riddler 17:03, 16 December 2007 (EST)
        • That's my point. I don't see any evidence to prefer one name over the other, or more specifically, that one name is "more common" than the other. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2007 (EST)
          • Ok, then I've changed the level to "common names for abilities", end of story?--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:13, 16 December 2007 (EST)
            • I'm glad you said that. I shall give you proof! First off, go to any comic book store in the world, they will tell you the name is super speed. Obviously that is not my evidence. But! Grand jury if you'll turn your attention to exhibit A!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_%28comics%29 Once nicknamed the Scarlet Speedster, the Flash possesses "super-speed," which includes the ability to run and move extremely fast, use superhuman reflexes and violate certain laws of physics. Thus far, four different characters, each of whom somehow gained the power of "super-speed", have assumed the identity of the Flash: Jay Garrick (1940-), Barry Allen (1956-1986), Wally West (1986-2006, 2007-), and Bart Allen (2006-2007).

Among the other information provided on that wikipedia page there is other evidence directly leading to Super speed.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Speed

This is a link to a page on MARVEL COMICS . com. It is about a character in the Young Avengers named Speed with the power of super speed. The marvel.com people say that his power is super speed!

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Quicksilver

This is another marvel.com link to a more well known super hero also stating the word super speed.

The following links are other links that you can enjoy looking at that all explicitly state super speed.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Whizzer_%28Robert_Frank%29 http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/ http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/wally.html http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Bart_Allen http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Clark_Kent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_west http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_allen

In the DC and Marvel encyclopedias they state that the speedsters have SUPER speed.

That's the proof. And there is more where that came from. Super speed is clearly the common name. Jason Garrick 18:19, 16 December 2007 (EST)