Episode talk:Angels and Monsters

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This episode had me...

All over the place. It was incredibly good, but I can't help but be slightly disappointed with the result of Canfield (there was potential there!). The pipe in Peter's head made me laugh a little. I've got all sorts of hatred towards Hiro at the moment. And Maury, well, I thought he was a kickass villain as soon as I saw him in Season 2, and to see him groveling is kinda... I dunno. Interesting though. Good episode! JackOfBloodyHearts 22:04, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I agree with you about Canfield. And Hiro. They always seem to kill off the good characters (I hate you Hiro). Most of them as soon as they're introduced. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:08, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Do we know Canfield is dead? What if the wormhole was just a doorway. Dracomaster4 22:11, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Arr, see, I've been kinda looking forward to Canfield being some sort of big bad! But then... *imitates suction sound* GONE! Maybe he'll return somehow. His power was so cool. And they can't just leave Ando's story at that! But, while those did make me gasp in some level of anger, still an incredible episode. JackOfBloodyHearts 22:12, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

They seem to maintain that Canfield killed his neighbor with his ability. Besides... it's a black hole... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:15, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Perhaps it leads to another dimension that only Canfield can enter and leave, and maybe his neighbor was in the void for all those years. And I'll bet Ando is not dead, I'll wager that the betrayal that Future Ando talks about is Hiro stabbing him. Dracomaster4 22:39, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I missed the last ten minutes

Someone please tell me Ando isn't dead Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:04, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

• They don't say, but Daphne says to Linderman that she didn't like what happened, that she wasn't a killer.--Riddler 22:09, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
  • As of the end of the episode, he's dead. Knowing Hiro, though, he certainly has a plan like reversing time once they're gone. He's no killer. (Admin 22:11, 13 October 2008 (EDT))
  • Ohh.... please Lord don't let Ando be dead. :[ Adam Monroe. Adam Monroe will totally bring him back to life. Totally. That's the little scrap of hope I'm gonna hang onto for the rest of the season. Or what you said, Admin. But then wouldn't that defeat the purpose of killing him in the first place? Seems kind of pointless... but anything is better than dead Ando. ._.Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:14, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
    • I think he killed him so quickly to try to prove that he sincerely had turned bad. If he hadn't then they would have known he was bluffing. Just a guess, though. (Admin 22:16, 13 October 2008 (EDT))

What is Petrelli's Ability?!?!?

If Maury is squirming and submissive to him, then ol' Art must be pretty powerful!(Jrrenola 22:19, 13 October 2008 (EDT))

I'm thinking it could either be the ability of persuasion, or the ability to paralyze people, and his power backfired somehow. Dracomaster4 22:41, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

He may turn out to have a strong ability... or it may turn out he's just an influential man that Maury is willing to follow. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. (Admin 22:44, 13 October 2008 (EDT))

I think War Buddies hinted that he may have probability manipulation, but that's just a theory for now. Arthur's ability could have helped Linderman build his fortune, and I think even Maury could be frightened of someone who could raise someone else's probability of a slip and fall, or getting hit by a Mack truck at will.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:56, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Claire

Could someone tell me what happened to Claire? I missed the last ten minutes and all of my friends are like "OMGZ NO CLAIRE" and I honestly can't wait until the episode is online to find out. D: Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:28, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

• After Canfield sucked himself up, Claire was driven home by Noah. She seems to hate him, and Sylar was egging that idea on. Noah said he was only doing it to protect her... hugged, she went home. Found out from Sandra that Meredith was gone, still going after Eric Doyle. JackOfBloodyHearts 22:40, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Yeah, I saw the Eric Doyle part. Lol, his power seems like an inverse of Monica's... and that's good about Claire. I thought something bad happened to her because everyone was so distressed. :[ Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:41, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Yeah, if you saw the preview then you know something did happen to her in the promo. She didn't die, but was put in an awful situation.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:00, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

What did Arthur say...

At the end of Angela's dream? Someone started to talk to me just then, and I missed it. JackOfBloodyHearts 22:36, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

He told her that she wouldnt be able to move, and alas, she couldn't. Dracomaster4 22:40, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

New actors and characters

Matthew R. Wiese (image)

Milosh (image)

Andre Royo (image)

Stephen Canfield (image)

Robert Forster (image)

Arthur Petrelli (image)

BJ Clinkscales     BJ Clinkscales (upload)

drug dealer (image)

Ron Perkins (image)

Arthur's doctor     Arthur's doctor (upload)

-- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:49, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

"previously on heroes" + sylar's ability.

As it me or did that bit contain more footage from last week than was shown last week? Also, "I can feel your hate through your hand", a hint at an ability? --Matchu 23:47, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

• It wasn't just you. They've added things to the previously segments on multiple occasions. This time, I think they added Angela being there at the end. I liked that twist. Regarding the quote, I think Sylar said "I could feel your pain through your hand"... can someone check that? I think he was just trying to express empathy for Claire, and was a nice tie-in to the "operation" he performed on her head.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2008 (EDT)