Theory:The Company's founders: Difference between revisions
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| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None. || {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br /> |
| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None. || {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using |
{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Charles Deveaux is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping Adam. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. Petrelli are not the good guys.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> |
{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br /> |
:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None. || {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br /> |
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| The photograph is not a picture of the entire [[group of twelve]]. || [[Kaito Nakamura]] told [[Angela Petrelli]], "Charles Deveaux. Linderman. Your husband. All of them. Dead. Now there are nine." (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'') || {{plus}} Everyone in the photo who has been identified is a member of the group of twelve, but this doesn't necessarily prove the unidentified people are.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The fact that cutouts of the heads are being used to intimidate members of the group doesn't prove anything either. It only means that everyone that Monroe intended to kill is in the photo.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Kaito Nakamura|Kaito]] says 3 of the twelve are dead and 9 are left but he also says ''all of them'' meaning there could be more.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Kaito]] could mean that 3 of the twelve are already dead and there are nine left, but including [[Angela Petrelli]] and himself.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It's possible that Adam is simply not counted among the twelve. According to [[Bob]], he brought the twelve together. That does not necessarily mean he was a member.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None. || {{minus}} The |
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{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> |
{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br /> |
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| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None. ||{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br /> |
| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None. ||{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> |
{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> |
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| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None. || {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] |
| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None. || {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br /> |
{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list |
{{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list which implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an |
{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an evolved human.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It is implied by |
{{plus}} It is implied by Angela that the twelve came together to save the world.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Bob tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> |
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| Victoria Pratt's ability was genetic manipulation. || None. || {{plus}} It's strongly hinted that all founders have powers.<br /> |
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{{plus}} An ability of this extent could easily give her a position in the founders.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Someone controlling this ability could have create so many strains in few months.<br /> |
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{{plus}} That would explain why she was a bio engineer.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br /> |
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{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula|the formula]].<br /> |
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| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. || None. || {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br /> |
| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. || None. || {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br /> |
{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Sylar and Nathan can only be only considered as one person.<br /> |
{{minus}} Sylar and Nathan can only be only considered as one person.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Nathan is dead for good.<br /> |
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{{note}} The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series.<br /> |
{{note}} The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br /> |
{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br /> |
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| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None. || {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br /> |
| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None. || {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed |
{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed Maury, both are in the group of twelve.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br /> |
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Revision as of 18:01, 25 December 2009
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| One member of the Company's founders had the ability to control weather. | Bob claims that a light Miami snowstorm should have been a tsunami. (Out of Time) | + Weather manipulation would account for this. - The person could have worked for the Company and not be one of the twelve.
- The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.
- Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.
• Technically speaking, tsunamis are NOT a type of weather. They are ocean waves caused by earthquakes on the ocean floor.
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| The group of twelve have been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. | None. | + They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.
- If the Group of Twelve had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then Charles Deveaux would have recovered and would not have needed Peter Petrelli to be his hospice nurse.
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| The journal female who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than Victoria Pratt, the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. | None. | - The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American. + Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry. |
| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. | None. | + Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense. - The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that Ishi Nakamura is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that. |
| The Company's founders all have powers, although some of them may be passive. | None. | + Angela Petrelli, Arthur Petrelli, Adam Monroe, Daniel Linderman, Maury Parkman, Charles Deveaux and Robert Bishop all have displayed powers. - Kaito Nakamura and Victoria Pratt haven't displayed powers of any kind.
+ Harry Fletcher and Paula Gramble are on the list which implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans. |
| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. | None. | + Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company. - The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis. |
| Peter, Nathan, Mohinder, Hiro, Claire, Elle, Matt, Tracy or Barbara, Noah, Sylar and Maya will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. | None. | + Their relation to the original group may influence it. - Elle is dead.
• The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series. |
| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. | None. | + Linderman, Maury Parkman, Victoria Pratt, Bob Bishop and Kaito Nakamura were all murdered on purpose. + Arthur Petrelli might be trying to stop that happening. |
| The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. | None. | + Five have been shown to have abilities, while seven have not.
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| There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being Adam Monroe. | None. | + He was said to have brought all the other founders together.
- He doesn't appear in the group photo.
- They would've certainly hired a professional photographer for the occasion.
- Kaito said there were only twelve. |
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