Fan Creation talk:Heroes Chess

We need some links on this page. Right now it seems like it's just something that somebody made up rather than a legitimate fan creation. I think at least one external link would help legitimize it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:00, 24 November 2007 (EST)

• I did some clarification and added one link, but it's not related to the same variation and I don't really know the source of this one. I'll ask on the originating poster's talk page.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:32, 24 November 2007 (EST)
  • The page is looking very nice. I just wanted to make sure this wasn't a case of one person starting a page for something that doesn't exist, but rather this really is a fan creation. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:37, 24 November 2007 (EST)
    • I left a message on Warjacker's talk page here after yours. The page on Wikipedia is on the verge of being deleted. Perhaps if Warjacker doesn't return, we can leave a message on CrazedDoc's Wikipedia talk page. The only edits for Warjacker and CrazedDoc have been related to Heroes Chess. There's also a Warjacker on Wikipedia, but that user has no contributions. CrazedDoc isn't a user here.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2007 (EST)
      • Good idea--why don't you leave a message for CrazedDoc. He created the Heroes Chess article yesterday, and it looks like those are his only contributions. He also looks like he really wants the article to stick around; since Wikipedia isn't really the place for it, maybe he'll embrace having it on Heroes Wiki. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:11, 25 November 2007 (EST)
        • Umm, didn't I just say that? I guess I'll post a message next week or so if Warjacker doesn't return. Just thought you might want to send a message yourself.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2007 (EST)

New version, Better version!

I looked at this page and was so happy that Heroes, my favorite thing ever, has merged with my second favorite game ever. I have made my own version, and I think it is better, since it has 24 characters, and aren't as complicated. (How does "Invisible Pawns" work? You'd have to keep a separate board somewhere out of opponent's site, or write were they are, it won't really work. In my version for Claude only the Queen is invisible.)--Isaac Mendez (talk) 14:58, 7 October 2008 (EST)

• I added your signature for you. Please remember to add it by using "--~~~~" at the end of comments you place on talk pages. To do invisible pawns properly, you have to use chess notation to write down your moves. That's the only way for your opponent to accurately verify your moves if he wants to question one of them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:55, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Thanks, Miami. --Isaac Mendez 12:39, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Adding to this page

I wasn't sure if we could add to this page without permission from the creator, so I figured I'd just start a section for suggestions until finding out. I would add:

click 'show' to view Stevehim's original list

Ando: You are able to allow a piece to move as a piece of a higher order, within two orders. You can apply this ability to one piece per turn, and the effects only last for that turn. Thus, you can allow your pawn to move as a knight or bishop, your knight to move as a bishop or rook, your bishop to move as a rook or queen, or your rook to move as a queen on a given turn. This ability cannot be used to result in check or checkmate. Isaac: Once every seven turns, before your turn your opponent must decide what his next move will be and tell you prior to making your move. Your move cannot be one that results in two pieces occupying the same square after he makes his pre-established move. Your opponent must then make the move promised on his next turn. If you don't use this ability on your opponent's seventh move, then you can use it on the eighth, ninth or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later move, you must still wait till your opponent's next seventh turn before re-exercising this power. Julien: Once every ten turns, before white's move you may create a copy of the weakest piece you have on the board. This piece may be placed on any empty square that it can legally occupy, as long as it does not place your opponent in check or checkmate. Neither the king nor queen can be duplicated at any point, and you must have at least 5 pieces (including your king) on the board to use this ability. If you don't use this ability on the tenth turn, then you can use it on the eleventh, twelfth or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your next tenth turn before re-exercising this power. Future Peter: Once every eightten turns, before white's move you may cause one of your or your opponent's pieces to "inhabit" any adjacent piece, where it will remain for threefive turns. During this time, the piece is taken off the board and cannot be used. Upon returning, the piece must be placed in an adjacent square to the piece it was inhabiting, as long as this does not put either player in check or checkmate. If these requirements cannot be met, the piece remains inside the other piece until such a time they can be. This ability can not be used on more than three pieces at one time, and no two piece may inhabit the same piece. If the piece that is being inhabited is captured, the "inhabiting" piece is also captured. This ability can be used on any piece other than the king. If you don't use this ability on the eighthtenth turn, then you can use it on the ninth, tenthtenth, eleventh or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your opponent's next eighth turn before re-exercising this power. Abigail: Once every five turns, before white's move you may designate one piece immune from capture. This lasts for three turns. This ability must be used on every fifth turn. Rachel: Once every five turns, you may teleport one of your pieces or one of your opponent's pieces to any unoccupied square on the board, as long as it does not result in check or checkmate. This ability may be used on your king, but not on your opponent's, and cannot be used to send pawns to the first or eighth rank. If you don't use this ability on the fifth turn, then you can use it on the sixth, seventh or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till the next seventh turn before re-exercising this power. Stephen: Once every ten turns, before your opponent's move you may take the weakest piece (pawn < knight < bishop < rook < queen) your opponent has off the board for good, as long as it does not result in check or checkmate. If your opponent has more than one of the same weakest piece, you may choose which is removed. This ability cannot be used on your opponent's king, and cannot be used if your opponent has less than 5 pieces (including the king) on the board. If you don't use this ability on the tenth turn, then you can use it on the eleventh, twelfth or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till the next tenth turn before re-exercising this power. Maya: Once every seven turns, all of your opponent's pieces may be restricted to movement of the piece directly lower than them (queen > rook > bishop > knight > pawn). If you choose not use this ability when you can, you may not use it until the next seventh turn. Ricardo Silva: Once every ten turns, before your opponent's turn you may select one of his pieces to exert this ability on. The piece will then destroy a single, weaker piece (king > queen > rook > bishop > knight > pawn), of your choice, that is adjacent to it. This ability cannot be used to result in check or checkmate. Explosion future Peter: You may exert this ability twice a game, at a time of your choosing, on your turn. Once exerted, you gain any pieces that your opponent has that you do not. These pieces must be placed on their original squares or, if they cannot, on an adjacent square of your choosing. If there is no adjacent square, the piece is forfeited. This ability cannot be used to result in check or checkmate. Trevor: You may exert this ability twice a game, at a time of your choosing, before your opponent's turn. Once activated, you designate one of your opponent's pieces a "static piece." All pieces adjacent to this piece then must move to an adjacent, unoccupied square of your choosing. If no unoccupied adjacent squares exist, the pieces stay where they are. This ability cannot be used to result in check or checkmate. Eric Doyle: Before the first move of the game, you may organize your opponent's back rank any way you wish. If this reorganization results in the king and/or rooks not being on their normal starting square, your opponent may not castle.

--Stevehim 15:36, 28 December 2008 (EST)

• Well, this page is meant to summarize the game as it was developed by the creators. Though people have changed some of the character names as new characters have appeared, they haven't really added new abilities so you might want to add your extra characters as a subpage and put a link to it in the notes section. With a few exceptions I thought needed clarification or were too unbalanced, these looked okay. I've put a corrected list below as I thought they should be and collapsed your list above.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:50, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Miamivolts' corrected list

** Corrected list: Ando Masahashi: You are able to allow a piece to move as another piece of the same or next higher order. You can apply this ability to one piece per turn, and the effects last only for that turn. Thus, you can allow your pawn to move as a knight or bishop, your knight to move as a bishop or rook, your bishop to move as a rook or queen, or your rook to move as a queen on any given turn. This ability cannot be used to capture the king directly, or result in check or checkmate. Thus, this ability cannot be used to create pins on pieces to stop them from moving such that they would let an opponent's piece capture their king using the ability if they moved. Isaac Mendez: Once every seven turns, in addition to making a move, your opponent must decide what his or her next move will be and tell you the piece to be moved and square where it will go in order to complete that turn. The specified move must be a legal move when said, and your opponent must perform it on the next turn unless the game has ended. Thus, en passant cannot be specified; and, unless the move is to be castling, the square must not currently be occupied by one of his own pieces. If castling is the specified move, castling must currently be possible when specified and your subsequent move cannot then be one that blocks castling. If your opponent specifies any other move other than castling, your move still cannot be one that prevents your opponent from making that move. Your move cannot pin the specified piece to be moved such that moving it would place the opponent's king in check, and your move cannot check the king if the specified move would not block the check. Also, your move cannot be to place a piece such that it blocks the path needed to be taken to make the specified move. You may place any piece in the square to be moved to except for your king. Also, if the square to be moved to is occupied by one of your pieces, you may move it out of that square. Lastly, you may capture the piece specified to be moved on the next turn, but only if it will cause checkmate. Julien Dumont: Once every ten turns, in addition to making a move, you may create a copy of the weakest piece you have on the board. This piece may be placed on any empty square that it can legally occupy, as long as it does not place your opponent in check or checkmate. Neither your king or queen can be duplicated at any point, and you must have at least 5 pieces (including your king) on the board to use this ability. If you don't use this ability on your tenth turn, then you can use it on any subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your next tenth turn before re-exercising this power. Future Peter: Once every eight turns, in addition to making a move, you may cause one of your or your opponent's pieces to "inhabit" any adjacent piece, where it will remain for three turns. When using this ability, you must specify into which piece you are moving the other to and the piece is taken off the board and cannot be used during this time. Upon returning, the piece must be placed in an adjacent square to the piece it was inhabiting, as long as this does not put either player in check or checkmate. If these requirements cannot be met, the piece remains inside the other piece until such a time they can be. This ability can not be used on more than three pieces at one time, and no two pieces may inhabit the same piece. If the piece that is being inhabited is captured, the "inhabiting" piece is also captured regardless of whether it is a friend or foe. This ability cannot be used to store a piece in the king, and the king cannot be stored using this ability. If you don't use this ability on the eighth turn, then you can use it on the ninth, tenth or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your next eighth turn before re-exercising this power. Abigail: Once every five turns, in addition to your move you may designate one piece immune from capture. The piece cannot be a king and the immunity lasts for three turns. If you don't use this ability on the fifth turn, then you can use it on any subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your next fifth turn before re-exercising this power. Rachel Mills: Once every five turns, in place of moving, you may teleport one of your pieces or one of your opponent's pieces to any unoccupied square on the board, as long as it does not result in check or checkmate. This ability cannot be used on your king or your opponent's king, and it cannot be used to send pawns to the first or eighth rank. If you don't use this ability on the fifth turn, then you can use it on any subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till the next fifth turn before re-exercising this power. Stephen Canfield: Once every ten turns, in addition to making a move, you may take the weakest piece (Pawn < Knight < Bishop < Rook < Queen) your opponent has off the board for good, as long as it does not result in check or checkmate. If your opponent has more than one of the same weakest piece, you may choose which is removed. This ability cannot be used on your opponent's king, and cannot be used if your opponent has less than 5 pieces (including the king) on the board. If you don't use this ability on the tenth turn, then you can use it on the eleventh, twelfth or other subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till the next tenth turn before re-exercising this power. Maya Herrera: Once every seven turns, in addition to making a move, you may specify that you are using this ability such that on your opponent's turn, all of your opponent's pieces, except for your opponent's king and pawns, will be restricted to the movement and capture style of the piece directly lower in order (Queen > Rook > Bishop > Knight > Pawn). Thus, a queen will move only like a rook, a rook like a bishop, a bishop like a knight, and a knight like a pawn. If your opponent has any knights on the eighth rank, they can move like queens only during that turn. However, your opponent's knights are not promoted into queens if they reach the eighth rank while restricted with this ability. All of your opponent's pieces revert to normal after that turn. You cannot use this ability if enacting it would put your king in check or checkmate. If you choose not to use this ability or cannot do so on your seventh turn, you may not use it until your next seventh turn. Ricardo Silva: Once every ten turns, in addition to making a move, you may select one of your opponent's pieces to exert this ability on. Then, instead of a normal move, your opponent must move the specified piece such that it captures a single, weaker piece (King > Queen > Rook > Bishop > Knight > Pawn) of your opponent's own pieces, if possible. Your opponent may choose which piece to destroy, but must move the specified piece in a legal manner to do so. This ability cannot be applied on your opponent's king or another piece such that if it moved, it would place the king in check or checkmate. If you don't use this ability on your tenth turn, then you can use it on any subsequent turn. However, if you choose to wait to use it until a later turn, you must still wait till your next tenth turn before re-exercising this power. Explosion future Peter: You may exert this ability twice a game, at a time of your choosing, in place of your turn. Once exerted, you may regenerate any pieces that your opponent still has that you do not. These pieces must be placed on their original squares as long as that square is unoccupied and placing them there would not immediately place the opponent's king in check or checkmate. If neither is possible for a particular square, an adjacent square of your choosing may be used. If there is no adjacent square that meets both conditions, the piece is forfeited. Trevor Zeitlan: You may exert this ability twice a game, at a time of your choosing, in place of your turn. Once activated, you designate one of your opponent's pieces a "static piece." All pieces adjacent to this piece must be moved to an adjacent, unoccupied square of your choosing, if possible. If no unoccupied adjacent squares exist for one or more of the adjacent pieces, those pieces stay where they are. This ability cannot be used to move a pinned piece such that the opponent would be in check or checkmate if it was moved. Eric Doyle: Before the first move of the game, you may organize your opponent's back rank any way you wish. If this reorganization results in the king and/or rooks not being on their normal starting square, your opponent may not castle.

--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:50, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Gotcha. I wasn't sure, since Arthur and Daphne were new additions to the original list, but I assume they were added by the creators somewhere else...

I'll likely take your advice and just make a userpage with my version of the game (obviously giving props to the creators), and link it in the notes section. I'll look at your suggested changes in a few minutes. UPDATE: I looked at them, and will most likely go with most of the changes when all is said and done (I think there were one or two I felt diminished the ability too much relative to the others (probably Maya's for one), but I'd need to investigate more to even out disparity). Thank you for the input/corrections, especially with the wording, which was far better than mine.  :)

More suggested powers by Stevehim

Rough version as before...will have to edit it (likely using MiamiVolt's edits as the standard), and check for disparity relative to other powers. Santiago: In timed games, you may add half of your opponent's starting time to your clock, at the beginning of the game. Micah: You may exert this ability three times a game, at the time of your choosing. Once activated, you may consult any piece of technology on the status of the game, including what the best moves to make are. Interactions with living beings via technology, however, are not permitted. You are not obligated to follow this advice. Howard: You may use this ability three times a game, at the time of your choosing, before your turn. Upon using this ability, your opponent cannot look at your subsequent move, and must make his move without looking at the board at all (generally by declaring the move out loud). If the opponent fails to make a legal move, including ones that would place his king in check or checkmate, his turn is forfeit. After using this ability, you may not put an opponent in check on your move. Baron Samedi: At the beginning of the game, you must declare one of your pieces to use this ability on. This piece must then be captured two times to come off the board. When an opponent captures the piece for the first time, it is considered to have one capture against it, and the "capturing" piece stays where it was. This ability cannot be used on your king. Niki/Jessica Sanders: Your opponent must checkmate you twice to win the game. The Constrictor: You may use this ability one time during the game, at any point of your choosing after the fifteenth move of the game and directly before your opponent's move. Once activated, you designate one of your opponent's pieces as a "point of constriction." All of your opponent's pieces on adjacent squares are then placed on the same square as the "point of constriction" piece. The pieces remain on that that square until moved off, one at a time, by your opponent, at a time and in an order of their choosing. They may only move the pieces off the square to an adjacent square, though not necessarily the one that the piece originated on. If the "chosen" piece on the square is captured at any point, all pieces still remaining on the square are captured as well. Your opponent's king may not be affected by this ability, either as the "point of constriction" piece, or by being pulled on that piece's square. However, the "point of constriction" piece may be on the square adjacent to said king, and all pieces adjacent to it except the king would be "constricted." This ability may not be used to place your opponent's king in checkmate. It may be used to place your opponent's king in check, but in that scenario, you must then wait one move to capture the "point of constriction" piece. Monica: At the beginning of the game, you must declare one of your pieces to use this ability on. At the completion of the tenth turn of the game, that piece becomes able to permanently mimic the movement of any of your pieces that end up on a square adjacent to it at any time thereafter, and mimic the movement of any of your opponent's pieces that come withing two squares of it in any direction. This ability may be used on your king. However, when the king is placed in check, it can only move as it normally could (and so this ability cannot be used to "get out of checkmate"). If the designated piece is lost prior to the beginning of the eleventh turn of the game, the ability is lost for the game. Linda: This ability may be activated once your opponent's king has been put in check at least five times, or by reducing your opponent down to five pieces or less (including their king). Once activated, you steal whatever your opponent's power is, which may be used for the rest of the game. Change Sylar to Tracy, since her ability is freezing. Sylar: At the beginning of the game, you assign one of the possible powers to each of your opponent's non-pawn piece types', and assign one of your pieces to be Sylar. Anytime this piece captures one of your opponent's pieces during the game, you gain the power associated with it. The powers assigned to each piece type may be the same or different. Once the Sylar piece is lost, so are all the powers gained. Illusion: At the beginning of the game, you write down two sets of two specific, non-pawn pieces (either two of yours, two of your opponent's, or one of each), on separate pieces of paper that your opponent cannot see. These are placed at the side of the board in such a way that the information is not visible. These pieces are then 'switched,' and you may reveal this to your opponent at the time of your choosing. Until revealed, the pieces move as they normally would. Once revealed, the pieces switch places. This ability may not be revealed to directly result in check or checkmate. This ability may not be used to bring captured pieces back into the game. If a switched piece is captured, you must automatically reveal what the switch was intended to be to your opponent, and that switch is forfeited. This ability may not be used on your opponent's king or queen, but may be used on yours. Guillame: Once every ten turns you choose one of your or your opponent's pieces, and choose bliss or horror. If bliss is chosen all pieces of both players adjacent to the chosen piece must move onto the chosen piece's square. The chosen piece (and thus all of the other pieces on that square) may not be captured during this time. If horror is chosen, all pieces of both players adjacent to the chosen piece must move one square away from the chosen piece. If any of those squares are occupied, the pieces must move to the next closest square and so forth, until no piece is directly adjacent to the chosen piece. You choose which piece moves to which square. Pawns may not be moved to the first or eighth rank. Either scenario lasts for two full turns. Any piece that has not been moved or captured subsequent to that must move back to it's square, or if the square is occupied, to the next closest square of the your choosing. This ability cannot be used to result in check or checkmate. Matt: Ten times during the game, at the time of your choosing, you may consult any other living person on the status of the game, including a suggestion as to what move to make. The person you consult must be in your presence at the time of consultation, they may not use any outside sources (such as books or computers) and no pieces may be physically moved to demonstrate or see possibilities. You are not obligated to follow this advice.

--Stevehim 00:12, 29 December 2008 (EST)