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***Sandwitchcraft!...lol--[[User:Anthony Gooch|Anthony Gooch]] 23:38, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
***Sandwitchcraft!...lol--[[User:Anthony Gooch|Anthony Gooch]] 23:38, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
*** I had considered ''sand transmutation'' when naming the article, the problem was, I felt that the name would imply that he ''transmutes sand'', and not ''transmutes things into sand''. In other "turn things into XXX" abilities, we always used a simple verb - "[[freezing]]", because to freeze is to turn things into ice. "[[Melting]]" or "[[liquefaction]]", because to melt or to liquefy is to turn something into liquid. But there is no such verb for sand, and I'm opposed to ''sand transmutation'' for the reasons stated above. I chose ''sand mimicry'' since to me it seemed like he was shielding [[Eric Doyle]] from bullets with his sand-form body, which would get hit by the bullets harmlessly, and the "turning others into sand" bit was simply an [[ability extension|extension]] of his ability to others. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 04:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
*** I had considered ''sand transmutation'' when naming the article, the problem was, I felt that the name would imply that he ''transmutes sand'', and not ''transmutes things into sand''. In other "turn things into XXX" abilities, we always used a simple verb - "[[freezing]]", because to freeze is to turn things into ice. "[[Melting]]" or "[[liquefaction]]", because to melt or to liquefy is to turn something into liquid. But there is no such verb for sand, and I'm opposed to ''sand transmutation'' for the reasons stated above. I chose ''sand mimicry'' since to me it seemed like he was shielding [[Eric Doyle]] from bullets with his sand-form body, which would get hit by the bullets harmlessly, and the "turning others into sand" bit was simply an [[ability extension|extension]] of his ability to others. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 04:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
****However, the latest iStory confirmed his body doesn't turn into sand, he turned the bullets into sand, so the page ''cannot'' stay as sand ''mimicry''. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 04:21, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

Revision as of 08:21, 15 April 2009

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities
Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine granulation's name.
Source/Explanation
Gordon mimics the properties of sand.

FINALLY

I have been waiting for this power. Plus, I believe that sand mimicry is the best name we have.--BoomerDay 07:35, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

His ability

I think his ability is to simply turn anything he touches or touches him into sand. This is a line from the latest IStory, "Bullets hit the other guy too ... and turn into sand." The bullets turn into sand not Gordon. I think we should call it Sand transmutation. --posted by Laughingdevilboy Talk 10:26, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

  • I think this is right as well. When I saw the gn, I assumed that the bullets touching him simply became sand. Also he didn't spit sand, that was marys blood being turned into sand --IronyUTC CH 10:30, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Of course you prefer The Mummy, but the citation is from Genesis 3:19 "Dust to Dust": he does not "mimicry" dust, he lets somebody else return to dust! --Juba 14:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I think he can become sand.. When Mary's blood hit him it made a "szzz" sound which is what I imagine "acid blood" would sound like if it hit sand.. --Peter 15:08, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
        • I dont think it is Mary's blood I think that is the bullets turning to sand. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:13, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

  • They call it dust in the novel, not sand.--Riddler 15:17, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Talk 15:19, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Check the fourth page of the comic. On the bed and the floor are what i assume to be bullets. If they are that means he could've became very dense sand and the bullets kind of bounced off OR he became sand, the bullet entered his "sand-like body" and then he pushed the bullets out (like when Sylar/Claire is shot and they cough up the bullet) --Peter 15:31, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • My problem is what takes precedence, the IStory or GN, as the IStory states they turned into sand. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:49, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

  • I'm thinking sand transumation, he may have used his ability on himself possibly --Lolwut 17:20, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • It should definitely be sand transmutation. There is no indication in the gn that his body turned into sand and in the iStory it is stated that the bullets turned into sand, not him. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 20:09, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I agree that it should be transmutation, not mimicry, since we haven't seen Gordon turn into sand.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Sandwitchcraft!...lol--Anthony Gooch 23:38, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I had considered sand transmutation when naming the article, the problem was, I felt that the name would imply that he transmutes sand, and not transmutes things into sand. In other "turn things into XXX" abilities, we always used a simple verb - "freezing", because to freeze is to turn things into ice. "Melting" or "liquefaction", because to melt or to liquefy is to turn something into liquid. But there is no such verb for sand, and I'm opposed to sand transmutation for the reasons stated above. I chose sand mimicry since to me it seemed like he was shielding Eric Doyle from bullets with his sand-form body, which would get hit by the bullets harmlessly, and the "turning others into sand" bit was simply an extension of his ability to others. --Radicell 04:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
        • However, the latest iStory confirmed his body doesn't turn into sand, he turned the bullets into sand, so the page cannot stay as sand mimicry. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 04:21, 15 April 2009 (EDT)