Talk:Peter Petrelli

Relationship with Nathan

Sorry, I'm still new around here and don't want to splash the waters until I know the system =) Should there be some sort of section describing Nathan and Peter's relationship? Specifically, that Nathan frowns upon Peter's career choice and that Nathan considering Peter the less favored son? Kail Ceannai 02:10, 29 November 2006 (EST)

• It certainly wouldn't hurt. Personally, I think as we get to know the characters better, we'll be better off focusing on articles about the characters, rather than a strict character history (which is already getting kind of bloated and will probably need to be summarized and moved to a subpage by the end of the season.) I'd say go for it, and we can do the same for the other main characters over time. Maybe an "About" section before the "History" section would be a good way to make it consistent?--Hardvice (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Powers mimicked

• Let's keep an eye on the section about powers he may not have conclusively mimicked, we dont want it to become another list of Sylar's theorized powers. :) If it generates debate let's just move that part of it to Theories so we don't have to worry about it. (Admin 22:44, 6 December 2006 (EST))
  • So no theorizing about "What if the Haitian and Peter were in the same room together?" Aw, dang! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2006 (EST)
  • Yeah, I tried to keep it as confirmed as possible, and yet complete enough that it doesn't degenerate into a speculation fest. It's much easier to say "yes, we noted that, thank you" than delete the same thing a thousand times and say "that's already on the Theories page".--Hardvice (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2006 (EST)

Empathy

• Is it too late to suggest Peter's power be called "empathy" rather than "mimicry"? In Peter's case it seems suitable somehow. --Tocky 10:03, 23 December 2006 (EST)
  • It's discussed in the Theories page, but for now wall that's confirmed is that he can copy powers. Once more is known from a canon source, we can change it as appropriate.--Hardvice (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2006 (EST)
    • Fair enough. It's mostly just a semantic thing, anyway - I figure 'empathy' sort of conveys that the other person needs to be present, and also matches well with his character. I'm not going to argue about it, though. --Tocky 10:57, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Sickness

Peter seems to be sick since Homecoming. Should this article mention this illness? It seems to contradict his complete healing. He would have shook off the illness when Claire visited him in the jail. --AverageMan 15:13, 29 December 2006 (EST)

• Peter's illness is addressed (briefly) in the Notes section. --Ted C 15:38, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Power Retention

Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere, but Tim Kring made a comment about Peter that seems to suggest that he doesn't just mimic the abilities of those he comes in contact with, but he actually gains them permanently. Apparently, this is one of the things that Claude will be doing - showing him how to access all the aquired abilities of his own will, rather than automatically. Until it comes up in the shows canon, I wouldn't go 100% on this, however, as things can and do change all the time. :) --Yoshie 09:40, 4 January 2007 (EST)

• Very nice. Once it appears in the show, it can go on the page. I think the comment was that Peter acts as a "filing cabinet" and Claude can help him access the powers that he's absorbed prior. It kind of makes him the anti-Sylar. --Orne 10:11, 4 January 2007 (EST)
  • I think a reference to Tim Kring's comment can go on the Power mimicry page, but nothing too speculative, and nothing spoilerish. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:09, 4 January 2007 (EST)
    • Not a bad idea! I'm most curious to know how Peter's power works, if indeed he does retail all of the abilities since we've been told that they come from genetic anomolies (thanks to Sylar). If Peter is gaining all of these abilities permanently, then his DNA (again, like Sylar) must be a mess. If that's true, then he must also have the possibility of mutating into a completely different person (if enough DNA is permanently altered). Going to need a super-shrink at this rate.. anyone seen Dr. Brink (the Super-Hero Shrink)... --Yoshie 16:40, 4 January 2007 (EST)
      • At the very least, that would explain why he's so sick. For a long time, he'd only copied Nathan and Isaac. Perhaps it wasn't the number of powers he duped in a short timespan, but the overall quantity of powers he's duped. Each new evolved human he met made him a little bit sicker as his body struggled to keep up with the changes.--Hardvice (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2007 (EST)
• Mohinder's comments to Nathan in The Fix seem to support this. He says that Peter's DNA is reorganizing itself to mimic the original. Then again, that wouldn't necessarily mean it couldn't reorganize itself back to the former state. It would just seem biologically foolish, I guess. --ZyberGoat 01:35, 1 February 2007 (EST)

The Bomb

My wife told me that Peter was on Ellen today and said, "I am the bomb." My wife said she couldn't tell if he was kidding and she couldn't remember if he said anything else about what will happen in the show. Did anyone who saw the interview draw any conclusions?--E rowe 15:07, 20 January 2007 (EST)

Didn't catch the interview. Out of context, one can't be sure if he means he's really great, or if he is echoing his last line from Fallout when he says "The explosion ... it's me." It's a pretty witty comment, though. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:41, 19 January 2007 (EST)

Offensive power interference

There might be something to this: every time but one that someone has tried to affect Peter with a power, so far, it either fails or is blocked or otherwise doesn't work:

• Seeing through Claude's invisibility
• Ninja Hiro's time stop
• The telepathy feedback event
• (possibly) defending himself against the telekinesis attacks

The only exception is Nathan's flight, so far. Maybe in general a power cancels the same power out? Webrunner 13:49, 31 January 2007 (EST)

I think it's axiomatic that when a person possesses an ability, that person cannot be directly harmed by it. Obviously, when Hiro stops time, he himself doesn't stop (that would be weird); when Claude is invisible, he can still see himself; Ted is not harmed by the radiation he uses to destroy other things; likewise with Mrs. Gordon's fire. So when these people use these powers around Peter, it's not that they don't work--in fact they clearly do in every case--it's just that Peter has the same power, and hence the same benefit of immunity that the original power wielder has.--E rowe 14:14, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Radius of Mimicry

Could this distance between Claude walking away and Peter standing still before Peter returned to visibility indicate the radius at which Peter mimics an active power? Kail Ceannai 16:18, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Photo changed

Maybe it's just me, but I can't stand using promotional photos for character pages. Cast pages, fine, but character shots (I think) should show the character, not just the cast member dressed as the character. Anyhoo, I changed the pic of Peter to a cap from Nothing to Hide. The promo pic hardly looked like him - no bangs, even! --ZyberGoat 00:49, 1 February 2007 (EST)

• I agree, but if we're going to do it, we need to do all of them. Also, when we do, we need to upload them over the existing files so all the pages which use them (portals, etc.) are automatically updated.--Hardvice (talk) 00:56, 1 February 2007 (EST)
  • OK, but at least we can get a promo pic of Milo from the show. His current photo (which is named MiloVentimiglia.jpg, actually, so not even after his character following the precedent of the others) says it's from the WB, which would be from his stint on Gilmore Girls. I've uploaded a new version from the Heroes promotional pics. --ZyberGoat 01:07, 1 February 2007 (EST)
    • Good find! Much better. The promo pic of Peter from the press kit (in the scrubs) was awful, which is why I think we switched to the GG shot to begin with.--Hardvice (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2007 (EST)
• Actually, I quite like the promo shots for the portals and the sidebars. I think they're slick, and the actors adorn more than just the characters' clothes, they seem to take on their expressions and characteristics in the photos, for the most part. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:19, 1 February 2007 (EST)
  • Eh, I guess I don't have too much of a problem with promo pics per se, and I guess you're right, they do look cleaner than caps. I think it was just that the Peter one absolutely did not look like him just irked me. Oh well, problem solved. --ZyberGoat 01:29, 1 February 2007 (EST)
• So, I forgot to ask. Can someone with admin status go ahead and axe Image:PeterPetrelli.jpg then since we don't need it? Thanks! --ZyberGoat 01:32, 1 February 2007 (EST)

Hiro's power?

What makes us completely sure that it was Hiro's power that he used, and not just telekinesis? Anomy 22:54, 19 February 2007 (EST)

When the taser prongs stopped in mid-air it was the same "bullet-time" effect used when hero uses his powers. --Fcphantom 22:58, 19 February 2007 (EST)

So... we are basing powers off of the way they are filmed now? Anomy

I think because they did the whole time-warp, Matrix-feel in the scene that it was Hiro's slowing down of time.

I dunno... seems silly to base powers off of just that sort of filming. Anomy

If it were Hiro's power, the taser prongs wouldn't have dropped to the ground. He would of had to move himself or the prongs by hand. Time didn't stop, he froze them mid-shot.--Riddler 23:03, 19 February 2007 (EST)

You can see Claude moving in the background. So either Peter can stop time with someone else (something Hiro himself has not accomplished...yet) or he used telepathy and it was just filmed slow. (On another note, Claude mentions time-travel with the list of powers Peter should have in his aresenal) Bob

To counter my own, it could be argued that Peter showed more control over the power then Hiro, and stopped just the tazer in time Anomy

• Not to try to sound like a dick in continuing the arguement, but the tazer would have only floated if he stopped time. They wouldn't have dropped to the ground. :P --Riddler 23:12, 19 February 2007 (EST)
  • Just watched this again. My best guess is that he used Hiro's power to make them float (or else Mr. Bennet and the Haitian would have moved), and then TK to make them drop. --Fcphantom 23:29, 19 February 2007 (EST)

Persuasion

• When Peter shouted "Don't lie to me" at Isaac, his voiced sounded somewhat distorted like Eden's when she used persuasion. Peter did meet Eden briefly in "Collision" but he didn't know that she had an ability, which means he shouldn't have been able to call out the power. But could he have done it unknowingly? After all what he said to Isaac was a command. FlyingMan 23:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
  • Remember, Sylar had this voice as well, so it might come from his anger mixed with the TK or something.--Riddler 23:32, 19 February 2007 (EST)
  • My guess is that he needs to know of the ability in order to use it. Then again, if his genes are reorganizing themselves based on just being near a person, he technically wouldn't. But how would he call out the power if he didn't know it was there? With the others he's duped, he saw them in action. --ZyberGoat 00:20, 20 February 2007 (EST)
• Aside from the dream, he never saw Nathan fly before he started to do it... and he didn't know specifically what Sylars power was... nor did he ever know what Claire's power was til he asked her "You're a healer, aren't you?". :P --Riddler 00:21, 20 February 2007 (EST)