Heroes Wiki talk:Ability name origination

Excellent idea.--Hardvice (talk) 01:22, 15 November 2007 (EST)

• I know on more than one occasion someone raises the question of where a particular name originated, so this should become a big help as it gets filled out. Feel free to add any you come across or know off the top of your head. (Admin 01:23, 15 November 2007 (EST))
• Agreed.--Ice Vision 15:07, 15 November 2007 (EST)
  • I just came across this page. What a fantastic idea. It's good to have references like this to help support arguments and discussions on the talk pages. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:16, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Do you think that we could have a color-coded system for the naming patterns? Just so that one row that lists the types of sources can be in different colors for each box so you can see which ones were which more easily? Sorta like the terrorist alert one? --Piemanmoo 03:19, 1 December 2007 (EST)

water mimicry

• Was water mimicry descriptive or canon? I thought they essentially came out and said "he has the ability to mimic the density of water." (Admin 01:29, 15 November 2007 (EST))
  • I guess it's descanon. It wasn't explicitly named, but the name is taken from the description. Not sure what you'd call that. We'll probably need notes anyway, to clarify things like that the Haitian's power to cancel abilities and his power to erase memories have been referred to separately, ditto Hiro's time travel/teleportation.--Hardvice (talk) 01:40, 15 November 2007 (EST)
    • I changed it and Bliss and horror to "Near-canonical Description" since they're somewhat similar. They didn't come right out and say it was the name, but they did describe the power near-canonically and the name was taken from those descriptions. We can always change the term if there's a better one. (Admin 01:54, 15 November 2007 (EST))
      • Howabout just "canon description"? The description itself is canon. I just so don't want to re-open the Bliss and Horror bucket of worms. It's a canon name, even if it comes from a description. ETA: oh wait, you're right. They're both GNs.--Hardvice (talk) 02:05, 15 November 2007 (EST)
        • Yeah, if you check the edit history I made the mistake of calling them canonical descriptions at first, too. Then I realized they're considered near-canon and renamed them since I knew it would be confusing if we called them canon here and near-canon on the sources page. (Admin 02:09, 15 November 2007 (EST))

Clairvoyance

It's in the Genesis files, isn't it? Noteworthy here or no?--Riddler 17:26, 15 November 2007 (EST)

• Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. I'll change it now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Persuasion

Does anybody know the link where the writers referred to Eden's power as "persuasion"? I think it was a Behind the Eclipse, but I'm not positive. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:34, 15 November 2007 (EST)

• Sylar called it persuasion in Fallout. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 17:37, 15 November 2007 (EST)
  • "The power of persuasion, and this whole time, you were the girl next door." Good catch!--Hardvice (talk) 17:39, 15 November 2007 (EST)
  • Nice. I must have missed that way back when. Good job. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:40, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Telekinesis

Would Brian Davis being called "telekinetic" in Six Months Ago be considered a source?--Ice Vision 16:43, 17 November 2007 (EST)

• Absolutely...didn't catch that one. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:15, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Namespace

I think it'd be good to move this to the Heroes Wiki namespace, but I think an introduction for the table is in order beforehand.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:19, 14 December 2007 (EST)

• I added an introduction, and a category, and I switched it to use 'ability' instead of 'power'. If you don't like the changes, please feel free to correct them, but I think this article needs to move to the "Heroes Wiki" namespace soon.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2007 (EST)
• I agree, I think this page deserves to be an actual page instead of a subpage. Jason Garrick 22:09, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Some of these should be adjusted

But I'm not quite sure what the best way to change them myself is. The Graphic Novels more specifically. Dehydration is listed as descriptive based on "Descriptions in The Golden Handshake", while Crumpling is listed as Near-canon. We should remain consistent on these, since in none of them are they explicitly naming the powers, so the basis for each name would be the same.--Riddler 23:46, 3 January 2008 (EST)

• Most of them distinguish between a descriptive name (one made up entirely with no underlying source) and a name based on a canon/near-canon description (i.e. we took words from an episode/novel and changed the part of speech--"fly" to "flight", "freeze" to "freezing"). That's an important distinction to preserve.--Hardvice (talk) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (EST)
  • I fixed the ones I noticed.--Riddler 23:56, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Automation

Could the table on this page be automated using dpl? It seems like double the work to update the power names template on the power talk pages, and then to update this page as well. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:08, 4 January 2008 (EST)