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{{plus}} It makes perfect sense for the Guitar Hero event. Which would also make sense for her sudden interest in Claire. With this ability she's probably able to know Claire has an ability just be learning about her.<br /> |
{{plus}} It makes perfect sense for the Guitar Hero event. Which would also make sense for her sudden interest in Claire. With this ability she's probably able to know Claire has an ability just be learning about her.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Learning Claire through an enhanced learning ability makes no sense, not if her supposed learning works like it's supposedly did with the Guitar Hero.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Learning Claire through an enhanced learning ability makes no sense, not if her supposed learning works like it's supposedly did with the Guitar Hero.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} On the contrary, Gretchen may have her power since she was younger. Since Gretchen was from Texas like Claire was. Gretchen may have met Claire before. Gretchen may have met Claire and not known her personally. Like a class mate. Not everybody befriends every class mate. They probably talked a few times. Claire wouldn't remember her cause not everybody remembers their class mate that they don't hang out with, and for the fact now that their in college, Gretchen could of changed her looks |
::{{plus}} On the contrary, Gretchen may have her power since she was younger. Since Gretchen was from Texas like Claire was. Gretchen may have met Claire before. Gretchen may have met Claire and not known her personally. Like a class mate. Not everybody befriends every class mate. They probably talked a few times. Claire wouldn't remember her cause not everybody remembers their class mate that they don't hang out with, and for the fact now that their in college, Gretchen could of changed her looks (dyed hair, lost weight, longer hair etc.)<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} If her ability is learning things while doing them, like in the Guitar Hero scene, it makes absolutely no sense for her to learn about Claire's ability with her own ability. Claire's ability is an information she acquired, learning like she did with Guitar Hero is a skill, it doesn't work the same way.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} If her ability is learning things while doing them, like in the Guitar Hero scene, it makes absolutely no sense for her to learn about Claire's ability with her own ability. Claire's ability is an information she acquired, learning like she did with Guitar Hero is a skill, it doesn't work the same way.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} For all we know in Texas Gretchen probably didn't go by the name Gretchen but by another name. She could of changed her last name as well. This would make since if she as an ability. She was probably hunted down before by a unknown source that the company doesn't know about. The company didn't know every single people with ability and they didn't know every single hunter. This would also make perfect sense if she was a carnival member along side [[Samuel]].<br /> |
::{{plus}} For all we know in Texas Gretchen probably didn't go by the name Gretchen but by another name. She could of changed her last name as well. This would make since if she as an ability. She was probably hunted down before by a unknown source that the company doesn't know about. The company didn't know every single people with ability and they didn't know every single hunter. This would also make perfect sense if she was a [[carnival]] member along side [[Samuel]].<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} There may be evolved humans who were never discovered, and therefore were never hunted down.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} There may be evolved humans who were never discovered, and therefore were never hunted down.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Nothing indicates a connection with Samuel and his carnival.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} Nothing indicates a connection with Samuel and his carnival.<br /> |
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::::{{note}} Gretchen isn't connected with the carnival after all - [[Becky]] is.<br /> |
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{{plus}} She may have not been discovered by the |
{{plus}} She may have not been discovered by [[the Company]] and other people without abilities, but they could of been an unknown group of people hunting them down. Like the Company who was unnoticed by the outside people, these hunters are unnoticed by the company and the outside people which would make perfect sense for unknown hunters not known by anyone other than their victims. Remember people with abilities are always going to be hunted down by someone, either [[Noah|Bennet]], [[Danko]], or someone else we don't know about.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It doesn't mean every evolved human will always be hunted down.<br /> |
:{{minus}} It doesn't mean every evolved human will always be hunted down.<br /> |
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{{note}} This ability can be intuitive aptitude.<br /> |
{{note}} This ability can be [[intuitive aptitude]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Gretchen shows no indication of having the Hunger that it comes with the ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Gretchen shows no indication of having the Hunger that it comes with the ability.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} She might not be fully aware of her ability yet. She has not used her ability and the Hunger has not shown up.<br /> |
::{{plus}} She might not be fully aware of her ability yet. She has not used her ability and the Hunger has not shown up.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Gretchen has revealed she is bisexual and had at least one girlfriend before.<br /> |
{{plus}} Gretchen has revealed she is bisexual and had at least one girlfriend before.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} What she said was she had at least 6-7 more boyfriends than girlfriends. She may never have had a girlfriend before.<br /> |
:{{minus}} What she said was she had at least 6-7 more boyfriends than girlfriends. She may never have had a girlfriend before.<br /> |
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{{plus}} That seems |
{{plus}} That seems likely, seeing that Claire is not her first female interest.<br /> |
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| [[Gretchen]] will be like [[Zach]] and lose her memories of [[Claire]]. || None || {{plus}} Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when [[Noah]] found out, he had |
| [[Gretchen]] will be like [[Zach]] and lose her memories of [[Claire]]. || None || {{plus}} Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when [[Noah]] found out, he had [[the Haitian]] wipe his memories.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Claire has made it clear to [[Noah]] that she no longer wants to keep secrets, and that telling Gretchen about her power was her decision to make, not his. |
:{{minus}} Claire has made it clear to [[Noah]] that she no longer wants to keep secrets, and that telling Gretchen about her power was her decision to make, not his. It would not be in Noah's best interest to have Gretchen's memories erased.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Of course, that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't erase her memory for other reasons.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Of course, that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't erase her memory for other reasons.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Hayden Panettiere]] has hinted in an [http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Interview-Heroes-Masi-Oka-And-Hayden-Panettiere-19851.html# interview] that this ''could'' be the case.<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Hayden Panettiere]] has hinted in an [http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Interview-Heroes-Masi-Oka-And-Hayden-Panettiere-19851.html# interview] that this ''could'' be the case.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} This could relate to a past event.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} This could relate to a past event.<br /> |
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| The writers created [[Gretchen]] because of the bisexual [[Zach]] and what happened with lesbian [[April]]. || None |
| The writers created [[Gretchen]] because of the bisexual [[Zach]] and what happened with lesbian [[April]]. || None. || {{plus}} The show has been criticized because [[Zach|Zach's]] sexuality was left ambiguous at the request of the producers of The Sarah Connor Chronicles (he was originally intended to be gay).<br /> |
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{{plus}} The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played [[April]] left.<br /> |
{{plus}} The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played [[April]] left.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There has been a rise in interest in lesbian characters since Willow Rosenberg, from ''Buffy, the Vampire Slayer''.<br /> |
{{plus}} There has been a rise in interest in lesbian characters since Willow Rosenberg, from ''Buffy, the Vampire Slayer''.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Willow is the first openly lesbian major character on regular television. Xena and Gabrielle's sexual preferences are ambigious and Bianca Montgomery is not a major character on a regular television series.<br /> |
:{{note}} Willow is the first openly lesbian major character on regular television. Xena and Gabrielle's sexual preferences are ambigious and Bianca Montgomery is not a major character on a regular television series.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Following the episode |
{{plus}} Following the episode [[Hysterical Blindness]], it has been confirmed that [[Gretchen]] has a sexual interest in [[Claire]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Gretchen is confirmed to be bisexual in [[Strange Attractors]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Gretchen is confirmed to be bisexual in [[Strange Attractors]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} If the writers decide not to set her up with [[Claire]], they might have [[Rebecca Taylor|Rebecca]] kill her off.<br /> |
{{plus}} If the writers decide not to set her up with [[Claire]], they might have [[Rebecca Taylor|Rebecca]] kill her off.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Or they could call in [[The Haitian]].<br /> |
{{minus}} Or they could call in [[The Haitian]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Rebecca]] already made attempts on Gretchen's life. Unless she is an evolved human, it is likely that she will try again.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Becky|Rebecca]] already made attempts on Gretchen's life. Unless she is an evolved human, it is likely that she will try again.<br /> |
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| Gretchen was a bag and tag victim of |
| Gretchen was a [[bag and tag]] victim of [[the Company]]. || None. || {{plus}} [[Madeline Zima]] has [http://www.lotsofinterviews.com/#/interviewjimmy-jean-louis-ii/4535767460 filmed] a scene with [[Jimmy Jean-Louis]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It could be a future event, not a past one.<br /> |
:{{minus}} It could be a future event, not a past one.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Maybe the Haitian will [[Mental manipulation|erase her memories]] of [[Claire]]'s [[Rapid cell regeneration|power]] after all.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Matt Parkman]] and [[West Rosen]] had vague memories of being bagged and tagged. Gretchen does not.<br /> |
:{{minus}} [[Matt Parkman]] and [[West Rosen]] had vague memories of being bagged and tagged. Gretchen does not.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} They were both dealt with by [[Noah Bennet]] This is obviously not the case with Gretchen. She could have been bag and tagged by [[Eric Thompson, Sr.]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} They were both dealt with by [[Noah Bennet]]. This is obviously not the case with Gretchen. She could have been bag and tagged by [[Eric Thompson, Sr.]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Gretchen doesn't have abilities.<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Gretchen Berg.
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Theories
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| Gretchen Berg has an ability to learn things quickly. | None. | + She said she was getting better at Guitar Hero with every second. + When she was explaining the Jump, Push, Fall theory to Claire she threw the orange really far on her third example.
+ It makes perfect sense for the Guitar Hero event. Which would also make sense for her sudden interest in Claire. With this ability she's probably able to know Claire has an ability just be learning about her.
+ She may have not been discovered by the Company and other people without abilities, but they could of been an unknown group of people hunting them down. Like the Company who was unnoticed by the outside people, these hunters are unnoticed by the company and the outside people which would make perfect sense for unknown hunters not known by anyone other than their victims. Remember people with abilities are always going to be hunted down by someone, either Bennet, Danko, or someone else we don't know about.
• This ability can be intuitive aptitude.
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| Gretchen Berg might be related to Zach, Claire's best friend. | She's obsessive with Claire. | + She has a obsessive blog about her. Had pictures that obviously seem like home pictures that Zach might have since he's her best friend.
- Obsession isn't a sign of relation. |
| Gretchen is actually from California and dated April. | None | + Her comments about cheerleaders is not unlike that of the Costa Verde crew.
+ It may turn out that she moved to Costa Verde after what happened to Claire.
- She has never been seen at any of Claire's schools.
+ That seems likely, seeing that Claire is not her first female interest. |
| Gretchen will be like Zach and lose her memories of Claire. | None | + Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when Noah found out, he had the Haitian wipe his memories.
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| The writers created Gretchen because of the bisexual Zach and what happened with lesbian April. | None. | + The show has been criticized because Zach's sexuality was left ambiguous at the request of the producers of The Sarah Connor Chronicles (he was originally intended to be gay). + The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played April left.
+ Following the episode Hysterical Blindness, it has been confirmed that Gretchen has a sexual interest in Claire. |
| Gretchen will suffer the Dead/Evil Lesbian Cliche. | None. | + She is a stalker and has questionable ethics (discussing stealing a cadaver).
+ If the writers decide not to set her up with Claire, they might have Rebecca kill her off. |
| Gretchen was a bag and tag victim of the Company. | None. | + Madeline Zima has filmed a scene with Jimmy Jean-Louis.
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