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::{{plus}} For all we know in Texas Gretchen probably didn't go by the name Gretchen but by another name. She could of changed her last name as well. This would make since if she as an ability. She was probably hunted down before by a unknown source that the company doesn't know about. The company didn't know every single people with ability and they didn't know every single hunter.<br /> |
::{{plus}} For all we know in Texas Gretchen probably didn't go by the name Gretchen but by another name. She could of changed her last name as well. This would make since if she as an ability. She was probably hunted down before by a unknown source that the company doesn't know about. The company didn't know every single people with ability and they didn't know every single hunter.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} There may be evolved humans who were never discovered, and therefore were never hunted down.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} There may be evolved humans who were never discovered, and therefore were never hunted down.<br /> |
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{{plus}} She may have not been discovered by [[the Company]] and other people without abilities, but they could of been an unknown group of people hunting them down. Like the Company who was unnoticed by the outside people, these hunters are unnoticed by the company and the outside people which would make perfect sense for unknown hunters not known by anyone other than their victims. Remember people with abilities are always going to be hunted down by someone, either [[Noah |
{{plus}} She may have not been discovered by [[the Company]] and other people without abilities, but they could of been an unknown group of people hunting them down. Like the Company who was unnoticed by the outside people, these hunters are unnoticed by the company and the outside people which would make perfect sense for unknown hunters not known by anyone other than their victims. Remember people with abilities are always going to be hunted down by someone, either [[Noah]], [[Danko]], or someone else we don't know about.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It doesn't mean every evolved human will always be hunted down.<br /> |
:{{minus}} It doesn't mean every evolved human will always be hunted down.<br /> |
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{{note}} This ability can be [[intuitive aptitude]].<br /> |
{{note}} This ability can be [[intuitive aptitude]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Gretchen shows no indication of having the Hunger that it comes with the ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Gretchen shows no indication of having the Hunger that it comes with the ability.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} She might not be fully aware of her ability yet. She has not used her ability and the Hunger has not shown up.<br /> |
::{{plus}} She might not be fully aware of her ability yet. She has not used her ability and the Hunger has not shown up.<br /> |
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:::{{note}} Sylar had used |
:::{{note}} Sylar had used intuitive aptitude for years to fix watches and stuff before he learned that it was an "ability" and that others had them too. The Hunger didn't begin until he saw [[Brian Davis]]'s ability in action.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} She has stated that she was getting better at Guitar Hero by the second, if she had intuitive aptitude, the learning of something would have triggered it, and she would have the hunger.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} She has stated that she was getting better at Guitar Hero by the second, if she had intuitive aptitude, the learning of something would have triggered it, and she would have the hunger.<br /> |
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::::{{note}} Also, it is not known whether the Hunger is a part of intuitive aptitude. It may simply be a manifestation of Sylar and Sampson's own psychoses, cross-wired into their ability.<br /> |
::::{{note}} Also, it is not known whether the Hunger is a part of intuitive aptitude. It may simply be a manifestation of Sylar and Sampson's own psychoses, cross-wired into their ability.<br /> |
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:::::{{note}} Peter inherited the Hunger almost immediately after absorbing the ability.<br /> |
:::::{{note}} Peter inherited the Hunger almost immediately after absorbing the ability.<br /> |
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::::::{{note}} After accessing the ability, Peter was long ago confirmed to have every ability Sylar had each time they met.<br /> |
::::::{{note}} After accessing the ability, Peter was long ago confirmed to have every ability Sylar had each time they met.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Samuel]] can sense evolved humans, he would tell if Gretchen was one too.<br /> |
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| [[Gretchen Berg]] might be related to [[Zach]], Claire's best friend. || She's obsessive with Claire. || {{plus}} She has a obsessive blog about her. Had pictures that obviously seem like home pictures that Zach might have since he's her best friend.<br /> |
| [[Gretchen Berg]] might be related to [[Zach]], Claire's best friend. || She's obsessive with Claire. || {{plus}} She has a obsessive blog about her. Had pictures that obviously seem like home pictures that Zach might have since he's her best friend.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Jackie Wilcox]] and [[Debbie Marshall]] are not the only bitchy cheerleaders, look at the ones at [[Betty]]'s school.<br /> |
:{{minus}} [[Jackie Wilcox]] and [[Debbie Marshall]] are not the only bitchy cheerleaders, look at the ones at [[Betty]]'s school.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It may turn out that she moved to Costa Verde after what happened to [[Claire]].<br /> |
{{plus}} It may turn out that she moved to Costa Verde after what happened to [[Claire]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} This could be a way for the writers to mention April as a former lover of |
{{plus}} This could be a way for the writers to mention April as a former lover of Gretchen.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} April is an insignificant character who didn't even have lines.<br /> |
:{{minus}} April is an insignificant character who didn't even have lines.<br /> |
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::{{note}} April may not be lesbian at all, since her sexual orientation was only mentioned once in a spoiler.<br /> |
::{{note}} April may not be lesbian at all, since her sexual orientation was only mentioned once in a spoiler.<br /> |
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| [[Gretchen]] will be like [[Zach]] and lose her memories of [[Claire]]. || None || {{plus}} Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when [[Noah]] found out, he had [[the Haitian]] wipe his memories.<br /> |
| [[Gretchen]] will be like [[Zach]] and lose her memories of [[Claire]]. || None || {{plus}} Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when [[Noah]] found out, he had [[the Haitian]] wipe his memories.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Claire has made it clear to |
:{{minus}} Claire has made it clear to Noah that she no longer wants to keep secrets, and that telling Gretchen about her power was her decision to make, not his. It would not be in Noah's best interest to have Gretchen's memories erased.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Of course, that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't erase her memory for other reasons.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Of course, that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't erase her memory for other reasons.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Hayden Panettiere]] has hinted in an [http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Interview-Heroes-Masi-Oka-And-Hayden-Panettiere-19851.html# interview] that this ''could'' be the case.<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Hayden Panettiere]] has hinted in an [http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Interview-Heroes-Masi-Oka-And-Hayden-Panettiere-19851.html# interview] that this ''could'' be the case.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Her mention of the Haitian likely referred to the scene where [[Noah]] said he was going to summon the Haitian to erase Gretchen's memories and Claire told him that she would ban him from her life if he did so.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Her mention of the Haitian likely referred to the scene where [[Noah]] said he was going to summon the Haitian to erase Gretchen's memories and Claire told him that she would ban him from her life if he did so.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Madeline Zima]] has [http://www.lotsofinterviews.com/#/interviewjimmy-jean-louis-ii/4535767460 filmed] a scene with [[Jimmy Jean-Louis]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Madeline Zima]] has [http://www.lotsofinterviews.com/#/interviewjimmy-jean-louis-ii/4535767460 filmed] a scene with [[Jimmy Jean-Louis]].<br /> |
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::{{minus}} This doesn't mean every actor/character who has filmed scenes with |
::{{minus}} This doesn't mean every actor/character who has filmed scenes with Jimmy Jean-Louis, has necessarily lost their memories.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} This could relate to a past event.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} This could relate to a past event.<br /> |
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| The writers created [[Gretchen]] because of the bisexual [[Zach]] and what happened with lesbian [[April]]. || None || {{plus}} The show has been criticized because |
| The writers created [[Gretchen]] because of the bisexual [[Zach]] and what happened with lesbian [[April]]. || None || {{plus}} The show has been criticized because Zach's sexuality was left ambiguous at the request of the producers of The Sarah Connor Chronicles (he was originally intended to be gay).<br /> |
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{{plus}} The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played [[April]] left.<br /> |
{{plus}} The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played [[April]] left.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There has been a rise in interest in lesbian characters since Willow Rosenberg, from ''Buffy, the Vampire Slayer''.<br /> |
{{plus}} There has been a rise in interest in lesbian characters since Willow Rosenberg, from ''Buffy, the Vampire Slayer''.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Willow is the first openly lesbian major character on regular television. Xena and Gabrielle's sexual preferences are ambigious and Bianca Montgomery is not a major character on a regular television series.<br /> |
:{{note}} Willow is the first openly lesbian major character on regular television. Xena and Gabrielle's sexual preferences are ambigious and Bianca Montgomery is not a major character on a regular television series.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Following the episode [[Hysterical Blindness]], it has been confirmed that |
{{plus}} Following the episode [[Hysterical Blindness]], it has been confirmed that Gretchen has a sexual interest in [[Claire]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Gretchen is confirmed to be bisexual in [[Strange Attractors]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Gretchen is confirmed to be bisexual in [[Strange Attractors]].<br /> |
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| Gretchen will suffer the Dead/Evil Lesbian Cliche. || None || {{plus}} She is a stalker and has questionable ethics (discussing stealing a cadaver).<br /> |
| [[Gretchen]] will suffer the Dead/Evil Lesbian Cliche. || None || {{plus}} She is a stalker and has questionable ethics (discussing stealing a cadaver).<br /> |
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:{{minus}} She isn't really a stalker, and didn't actually steal a cadaver.<br /> |
:{{minus}} She isn't really a stalker, and didn't actually steal a cadaver.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If the writers decide not to set her up with [[Claire]], they might have [[Becky |
{{plus}} If the writers decide not to set her up with [[Claire]], they might have [[Becky]] kill her off.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Or they could call in [[The Haitian]].<br /> |
{{minus}} Or they could call in [[The Haitian]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Becky already made attempts on Gretchen's life. Unless she is an evolved human, it is likely that she will try again.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Gretchen and Claire are headed for the carnival where Becky is currently living. And [[Samuel]] wants Claire isolated.<br /> |
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| Gretchen was a [[bag and tag]] victim of [[the Company]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Madeline Zima]] has [http://www.lotsofinterviews.com/#/interviewjimmy-jean-louis-ii/4535767460 filmed] a scene with [[Jimmy Jean-Louis]].<br /> |
| Gretchen was a [[bag and tag]] victim of [[the Company]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Madeline Zima]] has [http://www.lotsofinterviews.com/#/interviewjimmy-jean-louis-ii/4535767460 filmed] a scene with [[Jimmy Jean-Louis]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} They were both dealt with by [[Noah Bennet]]. This is obviously not the case with Gretchen. She could have been bag and tagged by [[Eric Thompson, Sr.]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} They were both dealt with by [[Noah Bennet]]. This is obviously not the case with Gretchen. She could have been bag and tagged by [[Eric Thompson, Sr.]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Gretchen has not displayed a power yet. She may not have one.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Gretchen has not displayed a power yet. She may not have one.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Samuel]] can sense evolved humans, he would tell if Gretchen was one too.<br /> |
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Revision as of 08:38, 24 December 2009
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The following fan theories are about Gretchen Berg.
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Theories
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| Gretchen Berg has an ability to learn things quickly. | None | + She said she was getting better at Guitar Hero with every second. + When she was explaining the Jump, Push, Fall theory to Claire she threw the orange really far on her third example.
+ It makes perfect sense for the Guitar Hero event. Which would also make sense for her sudden interest in Claire. With this ability she's probably able to know Claire has an ability just be learning about her.
+ She may have not been discovered by the Company and other people without abilities, but they could of been an unknown group of people hunting them down. Like the Company who was unnoticed by the outside people, these hunters are unnoticed by the company and the outside people which would make perfect sense for unknown hunters not known by anyone other than their victims. Remember people with abilities are always going to be hunted down by someone, either Noah, Danko, or someone else we don't know about.
• This ability can be intuitive aptitude.
- Samuel can sense evolved humans, he would tell if Gretchen was one too. |
| Gretchen Berg might be related to Zach, Claire's best friend. | She's obsessive with Claire. | + She has a obsessive blog about her. Had pictures that obviously seem like home pictures that Zach might have since he's her best friend.
- Obsession isn't a sign of relation.
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| Gretchen is actually from California and dated April. | None | + Her comments about cheerleaders is not unlike that of the Costa Verde crew.
+ It may turn out that she moved to Costa Verde after what happened to Claire.
- She has never been seen at any of Claire's schools.
+ That seems likely, seeing that Claire is not her first female interest. |
| Gretchen will be like Zach and lose her memories of Claire. | None | + Claire confided in Zach in Season One and when Noah found out, he had the Haitian wipe his memories.
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| The writers created Gretchen because of the bisexual Zach and what happened with lesbian April. | None | + The show has been criticized because Zach's sexuality was left ambiguous at the request of the producers of The Sarah Connor Chronicles (he was originally intended to be gay). + The show promised a gay/bisexual character and the actress who played April left.
+ Following the episode Hysterical Blindness, it has been confirmed that Gretchen has a sexual interest in Claire. |
| Gretchen will suffer the Dead/Evil Lesbian Cliche. | None | + She is a stalker and has questionable ethics (discussing stealing a cadaver).
+ If the writers decide not to set her up with Claire, they might have Becky kill her off. |
| Gretchen was a bag and tag victim of the Company. | None | + Madeline Zima has filmed a scene with Jimmy Jean-Louis.
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