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:{{note}} [[Matt Parkman (explosion future)|Matt Parkman]] also did not display the full extent of his powers in the [[dark future]]. This may be from not meeting his father.<br /> |
:{{note}} [[Matt Parkman (explosion future)|Matt Parkman]] also did not display the full extent of his powers in the [[dark future]]. This may be from not meeting his father.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Future Peter, who is considerably more experienced with space-time manipulation, was able to teleport Matt to Africa seemingly without actually going there himself.<br /> |
{{plus}} Future Peter, who is considerably more experienced with space-time manipulation, was able to teleport Matt to Africa seemingly without actually going there himself.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Hiro already seems to have done this, moving [[Adam]] in and out of his coffin. |
:{{minus}} Hiro already seems to have done this, moving [[Adam]] in and out of his coffin.<br /> |
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::{{note}} How do we know he wasn't simply stopping time (or rather, slowing it almost to a halt), shoving Adam back in, closing the coffin, and unfreezing time?<br /> |
::{{note}} How do we know he wasn't simply stopping time (or rather, slowing it almost to a halt), shoving Adam back in, closing the coffin, and unfreezing time?<br /> |
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|In time, Hiro will be able to travel to a time and place by focusing on a picture of it.|| None. ||:{{plus}} In ''[[Genesis]]'', Hiro is looking at a picture of New York and the next moment he is there. |
|In time, Hiro will be able to travel to a time and place by focusing on a picture of it.|| None. ||:{{plus}} In ''[[Genesis]]'', Hiro is looking at a picture of New York and the next moment he is there.<br /> |
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| Hiro did not actually change history when he time-traveled to ancient Japan; events as they are unfolding now are exactly the events that occurred in the first place. || None. || {{note}} This is a predestination paradox.<br /> |
| Hiro did not actually change history when he time-traveled to ancient Japan; events as they are unfolding now are exactly the events that occurred in the first place. || None. || {{note}} This is a predestination paradox.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In the stories that Hiro was told by his father, Kensei was Japanese, (like Hiro) not a gaijin. It seems he was destined to return to feudal Japan and become the hero.<br /> |
{{plus}} In the stories that Hiro was told by his father, Kensei was Japanese, (like Hiro) not a gaijin. It seems he was destined to return to feudal Japan and become the hero.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} However, Hiro's first interference in feudal Japan is to disrupt Kensei's planned ambush of the bandits he was hired to protect the village from. We see that this action is directly connected to Kensei receiving his famous sword and meeting the swordsmith's daughter (who was angry at him only for abandoning the village to it's fate, which was Hiro's fault). It seems fairly probable that before Hiro's interference, it was indeed this incident that set Kensei on the path to heroism. Indeed, Hiro himself points out that he 'broke history'.<br /> |
:{{minus}} However, Hiro's first interference in feudal Japan is to disrupt Kensei's planned ambush of the bandits he was hired to protect the village from. We see that this action is directly connected to Kensei receiving his famous sword and meeting the swordsmith's daughter (who was angry at him only for abandoning the village to it's fate, which was Hiro's fault). It seems fairly probable that before Hiro's interference, it was indeed this incident that set Kensei on the path to heroism. Indeed, Hiro himself points out that he 'broke history'.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} [[Yaeko]] told Hiro that everyone will know the story of [[Takezo Kensei]]. She likely took license to make the story the way Hiro remembered it. Plus, in her mind perhaps, Hiro still saved [[Otsu, Japan|Otsu]] as the story originally said. |
::{{plus}} [[Yaeko]] told Hiro that everyone will know the story of [[Takezo Kensei]]. She likely took license to make the story the way Hiro remembered it. Plus, in her mind perhaps, Hiro still saved [[Otsu, Japan|Otsu]] as the story originally said.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The "Battle of Twelve Swords" fits more into the context of Hiro's time-stop ability than Kensei's regeneration; if Kensei had gone into the battle, it is unlikely he would have simply disarmed the opponents.<br /> |
{{plus}} The "Battle of Twelve Swords" fits more into the context of Hiro's time-stop ability than Kensei's regeneration; if Kensei had gone into the battle, it is unlikely he would have simply disarmed the opponents.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Hiro never indicated that the original Kensei simply disarmed his opponents (except by doing it himself.)<br /> |
:{{minus}} Hiro never indicated that the original Kensei simply disarmed his opponents (except by doing it himself.)<br /> |
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{{plus}} This could explain why the depictions of Kensei in the Sword Saint documentaries looks less like Kensei, and more like Hiro. |
{{plus}} This could explain why the depictions of Kensei in the Sword Saint documentaries looks less like Kensei, and more like Hiro.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Hiro had already been shown in 1671 (''[[Episode:How to Stop an Exploding Man|How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'') when Sword Saint was released.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Hiro had already been shown in 1671 (''[[Episode:How to Stop an Exploding Man|How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'') when Sword Saint was released.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If a time traveling man in the future goes back to the past, then the present man would already see the changes his future self made in the past, considering they took place in the past. Basically Hiro, before he went to the past, would have to be living in a world in which his future self already ‘altered’ the past, because it took place in the past and would have already happened. So throughout Hiro’s entire life the events that took place with Hiro in the past, had already taken place, and all the effects of that would have already been weaved throughout the current timeline before Hiro even decided to go to the past.<br /> |
{{plus}} If a time traveling man in the future goes back to the past, then the present man would already see the changes his future self made in the past, considering they took place in the past. Basically Hiro, before he went to the past, would have to be living in a world in which his future self already ‘altered’ the past, because it took place in the past and would have already happened. So throughout Hiro’s entire life the events that took place with Hiro in the past, had already taken place, and all the effects of that would have already been weaved throughout the current timeline before Hiro even decided to go to the past.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Hiro teleporting forward in time prevented him from stabbing Sylar in the [[explosion future]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Hiro teleporting forward in time prevented him from stabbing Sylar in the [[explosion future]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Hiro made it worse when he accidentally teleported to feudal Japan. There he met his childhood hero Kensei/Adam. He couldn't believe Adam was a drunk, pillager, and only thought of himself. So he turned him into the hero he read about but he betrayed him by kissing [[Yaeko|his princess]]. During the fight and before the explosion, Adam told Hiro he would pay for what he did.<br /> |
{{plus}} Hiro made it worse when he accidentally teleported to feudal Japan. There he met his childhood hero Kensei/Adam. He couldn't believe Adam was a drunk, pillager, and only thought of himself. So he turned him into the hero he read about but he betrayed him by kissing [[Yaeko|his princess]]. During the fight and before the explosion, Adam told Hiro he would pay for what he did.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Bob said Adam was the first and he said Adam wanted to help the human population by ruling them through enslavement and punishment (or something to that degree). Maybe if Hiro hadn't gone back to Japan and met Adam and then accidentally betrayed him, none of the [[Outbreak|future Peter and Caitlin saw]] would exist because Adam wouldn't want to seek revenge for hundreds of years. Adam may always have been the one responsible for the release of the [[Shanti Virus]] on the world. If Adam can heal from the Shanti virus, then Adam would have nothing to fear from an outbreak. |
:{{plus}} Bob said Adam was the first and he said Adam wanted to help the human population by ruling them through enslavement and punishment (or something to that degree). Maybe if Hiro hadn't gone back to Japan and met Adam and then accidentally betrayed him, none of the [[Outbreak|future Peter and Caitlin saw]] would exist because Adam wouldn't want to seek revenge for hundreds of years. Adam may always have been the one responsible for the release of the [[Shanti Virus]] on the world. If Adam can heal from the Shanti virus, then Adam would have nothing to fear from an outbreak.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}One of the side effects of the [[Shanti virus]] is the inability of evolved humans using their abilities. Thus, Adam would not be able to use his power if he came in contact with the virus.<br /> |
:{{minus}}One of the side effects of the [[Shanti virus]] is the inability of evolved humans using their abilities. Thus, Adam would not be able to use his power if he came in contact with the virus.<br /> |
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::{{note}} In the episode ''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', [[Mohinder]] finds out that Claire's regenerative blood is a cure for the virus. So that means Claire, Adam, and maybe Peter are immune to the effects of the virus.<br /> |
::{{note}} In the episode ''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', [[Mohinder]] finds out that Claire's regenerative blood is a cure for the virus. So that means Claire, Adam, and maybe Peter are immune to the effects of the virus.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Mere contact (physical or otherwise) with a previous version of oneself wouldn't necessarily cause a paradox. Only contact which would alter events in a manner which would prevent the contact would do so. This contact could have altered some events, but likely not enough to prevent the present Hiro from going back in time and making the contact in the first place.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Mere contact (physical or otherwise) with a previous version of oneself wouldn't necessarily cause a paradox. Only contact which would alter events in a manner which would prevent the contact would do so. This contact could have altered some events, but likely not enough to prevent the present Hiro from going back in time and making the contact in the first place.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Dark Future]] [[Future Hiro|Hiro]] didn't seem to consider that when he was about to send his past self and Ando back to their present.<br /> |
:{{minus}} [[Dark Future]] [[Future Hiro|Hiro]] didn't seem to consider that when he was about to send his past self and Ando back to their present.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} He might not need to touch an object to teleport them. |
::{{plus}} He might not need to touch an object to teleport them.<br /> |
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| Hiro can travel between universes. || None. || {{plus}} Hiro has gone to futures that did not happen. They could be futures of alternate universes.<br /> |
| Hiro can travel between universes. || None. || {{plus}} Hiro has gone to futures that did not happen. They could be futures of alternate universes.<br /> |
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| Hiro did not lose his power, despite what Arthur may have said. || None. || {{plus}} [[Hiro]] did not seem to experience pain like [[Maya]] and [[Peter]] did.<br /> |
| Hiro did not lose his power, despite what Arthur may have said. || None. || {{plus}} [[Hiro]] did not seem to experience pain like [[Maya]] and [[Peter]] did.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} It is possible that Arthur wants Hiro to believe he can't [[Space-time manipulation|manipulate time]] so Hiro won't try to return to the present.<br /> |
:{{plus}} It is possible that Arthur wants Hiro to believe he can't [[Space-time manipulation|manipulate time]] so Hiro won't try to return to the present.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Hiro has 'lost' his ability in the past |
::{{plus}} Hiro has 'lost' his ability in the past by not believing he could use it.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Arthur is a villain and tried to kill Hiro.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Arthur is a villain and tried to kill Hiro.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Maybe Hiro has a higher threshold for pain.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Maybe Hiro has a higher threshold for pain.<br /> |
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Revision as of 18:57, 16 December 2008
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The following fan theories are about Hiro Nakamura.
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Theories
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| Hiro's powers resulted from mutations in his grandfather's DNA. These mutations were caused by the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. | Hiro's grandfather was a survivor of Hiroshima and died of cancer. (The Crane) | - In an interview, George Takei strongly implied that Takezo Kensei is Hiro's ancestor. He says that through that legendary samurai, he is bringing a lot of good DNA to this role. This means that Hiro's DNA mutations were obtained from Kensei, not the atomic bomb.
- There have never been any documented cases that mutations from exposure to nuclear energy have been passed on to offspring.
• This is generally baseless, or at the very least a stretch. |
| Hiro did not kill Sylar because he used Ando's sword. | None. | + Isaac's comic showed Hiro stabbing Sylar with the Kensei sword.
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| Hiro's powers have not fully developed. When they do he will be able to summon anything from anywhere to any point in time. | None. | + Many of the powers take practice and time to develop. • Future Hiro did not display such an ability. Had he possessed it, he could have brought Future Peter to him and Ando, rather than traveling to Las Vegas, or simply summoned present-day Hiro from the Homeland Security building. He may have not fully developed his powers in the period of five years, however.
+ Future Peter, who is considerably more experienced with space-time manipulation, was able to teleport Matt to Africa seemingly without actually going there himself.
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| In time, Hiro will be able to travel to a time and place by focusing on a picture of it. | None. | :+ In Genesis, Hiro is looking at a picture of New York and the next moment he is there. |
| Hiro did not actually change history when he time-traveled to ancient Japan; events as they are unfolding now are exactly the events that occurred in the first place. | None. | • This is a predestination paradox. + In the stories that Hiro was told by his father, Kensei was Japanese, (like Hiro) not a gaijin. It seems he was destined to return to feudal Japan and become the hero.
+ The "Battle of Twelve Swords" fits more into the context of Hiro's time-stop ability than Kensei's regeneration; if Kensei had gone into the battle, it is unlikely he would have simply disarmed the opponents.
+ This could explain why the depictions of Kensei in the Sword Saint documentaries looks less like Kensei, and more like Hiro.
+ If a time traveling man in the future goes back to the past, then the present man would already see the changes his future self made in the past, considering they took place in the past. Basically Hiro, before he went to the past, would have to be living in a world in which his future self already ‘altered’ the past, because it took place in the past and would have already happened. So throughout Hiro’s entire life the events that took place with Hiro in the past, had already taken place, and all the effects of that would have already been weaved throughout the current timeline before Hiro even decided to go to the past. |
| Every time Hiro time travels, he causes a catastrophe such as the bomb that explodes in New York and the plague that Peter and Caitlin saw. | None. | + In the graphic novel String Theory, it shows he went back in time to stop Sylar from getting Claire's power so he could be killed. Doing so may have made Peter the exploding man instead of Sylar.
+ Hiro teleporting forward in time prevented him from stabbing Sylar in the explosion future.
+ Hiro traveled back in time, retrieved the catalyst from his mother, Ishi, and then allowed the catalyst to fall into Arthur's hands, thus eventually completing the formula. |
| When Hiro bumped into himself as a child he created a rift which will present itself later in Volume 3. | None. | + Touching a previous version of yourself is a paradox which may well cause a rift.
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| Hiro can travel between universes. | None. | + Hiro has gone to futures that did not happen. They could be futures of alternate universes. - It is possible that the future that he visited was a product of him being "out of the equation" as he was able to prevent Claire from being killed, but didn't stab Sylar (as he wasn't there in that timeline).
+ It is possible he could develop this power. Matt has discovered more facets of his ability he didn't realise before; so could Hiro. |
| Hiro Nakamura is brothers with Nathan and Peter Petrelli. | Hiro's biological mother may actually be Angela Petrelli, since we know she slept with Kaito Nakamura. | - Hiro seems younger than Nathan. Giving birth to an Asian baby would probably have wrecked her marriage. Nathan would remember his mom being pregnant with a second baby.
• These three characters seem to interact and affect the future far more than any other character in the entire series.
- Hiro's mother is Ishi.
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| Hiro did not lose his power, despite what Arthur may have said. | None. | + Hiro did not seem to experience pain like Maya and Peter did.
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