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Journal subjects as "Others on the list"

Do these belong here? There's a pretty good chance that they're not on the list, either because they haven't contributed DNA to the HGP, or because Chandra was just plain wrong about them. (Of course, Chandra has his own DNA samples from several of them.) The algorithm is a pretty new discovery, and most of these subjects predate even Activating evolution. We can't even confirm that they really are evolved humans, let alone that they're on the list or should be on the list.--Hardvice (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

  • In addition, there are no names for the subjects. You would think if he has their DNA sample he would have gotten their names.--Bob 16:04, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • True, but then again, it sounds like he was fairly sneaky about getting most of the samples. To be clear, I'm not discounting the possibility that one, more, or all of them are on the List under their actual name, but I think that we don't know enough about them to say that they either are or (now that we have some idea how the list works) should be on it. It's possible he was wrong; it's possible he never got around to running their DNA samples against the algorithm; it's possible he intentionally never ran their samples because he didn't have a name or a current location. Who knows?--Hardvice (talk) 16:14, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
  • To be honest, I was skeptical when I put them in. I was just trying to exhaust the list of evolved humans, and wasn't sure if I should put them under the "on the list" section or the "not yet revealed" section. I was using Sanjog and Sylar rationale: Chandra knew about them, so they must be on the list. I wasn't thinking of the chronology, and you're right, these predate even Activating Evolution. I've actually never felt comfortable even calling them evolved humans in the first place, and I think they should be taken off the category and list of EHs. They all have potential powers, nothing more. Heck, so did Shanti, and I could make an argument that Monty & Simon have potential powers. But that's a different discussion... I'll gladly take them off the list, and hope that the list of EHs matches this list after the journal freaks are considered only potentially evolved and not actually evolved. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I just asked the guys at CBR "Behind the Eclipse" some details about the folks in the journal and whether they correspond with anyone on "The List" or "The Map" and I think consistent questions along those lines will allow us to get closer and closer to making the match. I'd leave them on "Evolved Humans" and wait for them to show up on "The List" for now. Bkdelong 18:03, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I think we should move the journal freaks to a "suspected evolved humans" section of the list of evolved humans, and leave them off The List entirely. That way, we're comprehensive without being speculative.--Hardvice (talk) 18:39, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
      • I agree, Hardvice--I think that's the best way to handle it. The category is ... acceptable ... and I think the move to a separate section on the list is a fine idea. When I took them off the list, I thought about putting them down in the notes or something, and just really didn't feel right about it. I agree, they just shouldn't be there. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

The French List

...is, I'm guessing, a fansite. At the very least, it has some problems: Eden's on there as "Eden", not as 'Sarah Ellis'. Claire's on there, and shouldn't be, if Eden succeeded in her mission. There's also the matter of Hana's and Meredith's locations, which are up-to-date even though Hiro isn't, and the fact that Sylar's recent victims are marked as deceased already, except for Dale. Also, it's a Christmas Island domain (.cx) and doesn't appear to be in any way affiliated with NBC or Global. Cool, though.--Hardvice (talk) 12:50, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

  • So what do we do with this? It's a cool site, but I seriously doubt that the "official" French version of ae.net uses a Christmas Island top-level domain.--Hardvice (talk) 23:08, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

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  • Did Mohinder destroy the computer? I assumed it just got smashed in the fracas.--Hardvice (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I assumed he did, but you're right, there's the possibility he didn't. I'll change it now. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:05, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

Others not yet revealed on the list

Do we need this section? I think List of evolved humans is sufficient, and as the show grows, this section will be pretty long, almost to the point that it's more this section than the actual list.--Bob 04:53, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

  • A little history--that list was created when Mohinder said that there were 36 individuals on the list. We were basically trying to find out who was and who wasn't on the list. You're right, though, this list is sure to grow as everybody and their dog is revealed to have a power, and we're only just beginning the second season, not to mention Origins and others who will be revealed in the GNs. I don't really care one way or another (a long list doesn't bother me as much as maintenance does), but you're right that this list has lost some of its original purpose. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Number of individuals on the list

The article says there is only 36 but a count of names proves 43. --Snow Leapord 22:03, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

  • 36 Mohinder knew about.--Riddler 22:06, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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