Talk:Peter's victims

I'm not sure this page is necessary. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:50, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

• I agree. We should at least wait until he has started victimizing people exponentially before starting a page like this.--Citizen 22:59, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
• Delete, this is pointless as of now. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:50, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
• I think he has had a lot of fights, just not a lot of kills. I can see more kills coming soon too.--Skywalkerrbf 03:12, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Then let's wait until he actually has many victims (not just fight partners) until we make a list. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:34, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I'm with Ryangibsonstewart. Delete, since this isn't much of a list, and Peter hasn't victimized many people. Radicell 08:03, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Arthur Petrelli

So I've noticed that people seem to be unsure whether or not Arthur Petrelli should be included under Peter's victims. Personally, I say he should be. Peter was going to kill him - Sylar only delayed his death. Even though, however, it was Peter's bullet that killed Arthur. So yeah, I think Arthur should be considered one of Peter's victims. What does everyone else think? --Whizzles 09:10, 5 March 2009 (EST)

I think both of them should be held responsible for Arthur's death. In the GN, Arthur recognized Peter as the one who killed him, he pulled the trigger, Sylar also comes in cause he stopped the bullet and then released it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:38, 5 March 2009 (EST)

My thoughts exactly. --Whizzles 10:14, 5 March 2009 (EST)

I'm the one who posted it initaly here before it was removed and I definatly agree. When I first saw the episode I thought all Sylar did was release the bullet that he'd simply been holding in place, but either way Arthur should still be listed.--WarGrowlmon18 12:07, 5 March 2009 (EST)

In a court of law, Peter would most likely be charged with attempted murder, and Sylar with murder. Sylar is ultimately responsible for Arthur's death, but Arthur is a victim of both men. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:19, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Either way, Peter had the intent to shoot Arthur, even if Sylar wasn't there Arthur would have died, I think he should be included. I pulled the trigger, Sylar slowed it down. --IronyUTC CH 16:27, 5 March 2009 (EST)

• Peter did not kill Arthur, Sylar did. Arthur was proud Peter had the nerve to shoot him, but Sylar intervened, so he's the one who killed Arthur. AltesUTC CH

Caitlin

How is Caitlin not one of Peter's kills. She doesn't exist anymore because of him. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 00:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

• Caitlin's fate is unknown. She may still exist. Besides, it's not Peter's fault he couldn't control Hiro's ability, it's quite a difficult one to master. AltesUTC CH

Matt's teleportation to Africa

DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

• We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
  • I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
    • I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
      • The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --Radicell 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
        • Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)