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Talk:9th Wonders!

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Who's the Writer?

Okay so we know that Isaac Mendez is the artist behind 9th Wonders. Has there been any mention of who the writer is? Normally with comics it's not written and drawn by the same person. We have until now been assuming Isaac's doing both. IF that were the case, then he would have known more about Hiro. He'd have an idea where he was taking that story. Or have we assumed until now he was under the same drug haze while making the comics and can't remember? That seems rather a convenient excuse. Also, Micah's been reading all the comics. Would he not have recognized (okay NOT Hiro but are there not other events in the comics he would have recognized?) and would he not start recognizing others as he met them, from the comic ? Would someone not have reviewed the comics by now and tried to glean clues from them? -- ZachsMind 18:36, 15 February 2007 (EST)

  • It's not at all uncommon for indie comics to be written and illustrated by the same person. Off the top of my head: Dave Sims' Cerebus, Jeff Smith's Bone, Terry Moore's Strangers in Paradise, and lots of others are illustrator-written. It's not even unheard of in mainstream comics. Jack Kirby used to write and draw some of his own books; so have Alan Davis, Todd McFarlane, Rob Liefeld, and a bunch of other guys. More to the point, the bio calls Isaac the "writer/artist".--Hardvice (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2007 (EST)
    • It's not unheard of, but... oh never mind. =/ -- ZachsMind 18:49, 15 February 2007 (EST)
  • Micah has many of the 9th Wonders! comics. He is seen reading Issue #13 (with Uluru on the cover). Hiro, as far as we know, is only mentioned in Issue #14, which hasn't been published, so Micah wouldn't necessarily have recognized him. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:47, 15 February 2007 (EST)
    • Isaac also tells Simone in Genesis that he's only been painting the future for three weeks. If the comic is no more frequent than monthly, it's possible the previous issues are not necessarily prophetic. They could be, but they aren't necessarily.--Hardvice (talk) 20:02, 15 February 2007 (EST)

High Def Imagery

  • I got the comic's publisher from my hi-def iTunes download. I have the first three episodes downloaded if anybody has any hard-to-see details. - fcphantom
    • I just updated Isaac Mendez with his biographical info from the back cover of 9th Wonders issue #14 when Hiro is looking for his address. Do you want to double check and see if I got it right? It was cut off beyond a certain point so I stopped around where it got cut off. (Admin 00:41, 26 October 2006 (EDT))
      • Got it. I actually had to get the bottom-most and right-most stuff from when Hiro was flipping the pages! (fcpahntom 19:31, 6 November 2006 (EST))
  • Heya all, I found a series of Prop Auctions on eBay that show other issues of the comic. Search for NBC HEROES Prop Comic 9th Wonders... Will upload images as soon as I figure out how -- Orne
    • These are great! I'd suggest adding them to the article as a gallery. To add a gallery, type
<gallery>
Image:Imagename.jpg|Description
Image:Imagename.jpg|Description
...
</gallery>

...and then be sure to add [[Category: Galleries]]. Awesome find!--Hardvice 16:02, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Time Rift?

In the current timeline, Isaac has painted his own death, meaning that it WILL come to pass (like all his other's have). Seeing as he hasn't drawn any of the images for the comic book, won't that cause the book to cease to exist, and cause a "course-correction" for all things resulting from Hiro obtaining the comic? Anomy 09:20, 10 March 2007 (EST)

  • First, many of the images are finished -- Isaac told Hiro and Ando about them in the Burnt Toast Diner during Fallout. Second, there's no guarantee that Isaac will die (I have a feeling we're going to go back and make a lot of changes after the season finale). My guess is it's Candace posing as Isaac, but who knows? :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:46, 10 March 2007 (EST)
    • That's right. To say that Isaac painted his own death is to make an interpretive leap from the painting to its significance. Just like we couldn't initially know if Hiro was going to fight a real dinosaur or if Peter was going to die at the highschool, we also don't know if the real Isaac is really going to die. The painting is only an image of how something appears. It could be a fake Isaac; it could be a non-fatal injury; it could be a nasty ketchup spill; it could be that he gets brought back to life; it could be that he dies in one timeline and Hiro saves him in another; or it could be that Isaac hears Sylar coming up the stairs and quickly fakes his own death to avoid getting an encephalectomy. It could even be that in the future Isaac paints a non-prophetic painting of his death and this is a prophetic painting of that future non-prophetic painting.--E rowe 11:17, 10 March 2007 (EST)