Talk:Angela Petrelli

Name

Where did it say that Mother Petrelli first name is Angela?
~ ~ ~ ~ Red = 23:10, 17 February 2007 (EST)

• Hmm... I'm not sure, it may have been information originally found at Wikipedia a long time ago. She's probably credited at the end of an episode somewhere, but I dont know which episode offhand. Hopefully someone else knows where the original mention of it came from. If you search Google you find a lot of Heroes results for Angela Petrelli, so I'm pretty sure it's accurate, I just don't know the exact source off the top of my head. (Admin 23:23, 17 February 2007 (EST))
  • Nope, nothing stated in the end credits.[1]
    ~ ~ ~ ~ Red = 13:12, 18 February 2007 (EST)
• I found a web reference that states it is in the Opening Credits of Genesis --Orne 09:36, 21 February 2007 (EST)

Starring:
SANTIAGO CABRERA as Isaac Mendez
TAWNY CYPRESS as Simone Deveaux
NOAH GRAY-CABEY as Micah Sanders

ALI LARTER as Niki Sanders
MASI OKA as Hiro Nakamura
HAYDEN PANETTIERE as Claire Bennet

ADRIAN PASDAR as Nathan Petrelli
SENDHIL RAMAMURTHY as Mohinder Suresh
MILO VENTIMIGLIA as Peter Petrelli

Guest Starring:
CHRISTINE ROSE as Angela Petrelli 
JACK COLEMAN as Mr. Bennet (HRG)
ASHLEY CROW as Sandra Bennet

THOMAS DEKKER as Zach
SHISHIR KURUP as Nirad
JAMES KYSON LEE as Ando Masahashi
JOHN PROSKY as Principal

DEIRDRE QUINN as Tina
BRIAN TARANINA as Weasel (Thug 1)
and
RICHARD ROUNTREE as Charles Deveaux

Music by: WENDY MELVOIN & LISA COLEMAN
Co-Producer: LORI MOTYER
Producer: SKIP BEAUDINE

Executive Producer: DAVID SEMEL
Executive Producer: DENNIS HAMMER
Executive Producer: TIM KRING

Created by: TIM KRING

Written by: TIM KRING
Directed by: DAVID SEMEL

• Additionally, "Angela Petrelli" is referenced in an NBC press release photo [2] --Orne 09:36, 21 February 2007 (EST)

Am I going crazy?

So there's a bunch of quotes and a reference in the episode for Genesis that I can't find in the episode. Maybe it's the file downloaded from iTunes that is different, but I can't find the part of the conversation between Angela and Peter regarding Nathan being the "alpha" dog and Peter referring to Nathan's accident. It just ends with her saying "I only wanted to feel alive again". --Bob 16:54, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

• I'm not an expert on Genesis, but according to the transcript site, the "alpha dogs" line happens in the station's bullpen, right after the "I just wanted to feel alive again" line. Whether it's there or not in reality, I don't know. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:03, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
  • I checked my copy of the original airing, and Ryan's right. It is indeed in there where he said it was. (Admin 19:14, 7 April 2007 (EDT))
    • Yeah, I guess Apple sells a cut version, because the one that I downloaded stops when Angela says "I just wanted to feel alive again" then cuts to Micah and Niki where Micah says "I hate it here". Weird.--Bob 19:17, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Dead?

I thought she was just severly beaten as far as I could see. She looked alive, but then again, I had to use the restroom ^^.--DarkPhoenix 22:17, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

• I corrected the summary. Yeah, I'm fairly certain she wasn't dead though I'll go back and look just to be 100% certain. (Admin 22:19, 1 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Didn't Nathan ask her who did this to her? Dead women tell no tales.--Hardvice (talk) 00:00, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
    • She didn't die. She was just in a state of shock. So was I because if she was killed, I would've had a heart attack. I love my mean Petrelli mommy. --AvadaNella 11:22, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
      • She was in a locked room in the middle of the police station and no one saw anything? I suspect she faked it. She definately had the know-how to let Parkman read only what she wanted him to read from her mind.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:26, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
        • I don't think she was faking anything at all. I don't think she could have (or would have) cut herself the way she did. --Pinkkeith 11:33, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
          • The scratches on her cheek aren't that deep. They could be self-imposed. Very curious as it's not at all similar in modus operandi to Kaito's killer.--NissanVersaDootDoot 00:59, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
        • Allan Arkush's comments in the episode commentary that the attacker "wasn't really there" intrigue me. There's two ways to read it: the attacker wasn't there because Angela faked it, or the attacker wasn't there because he has the power to attack her remotely. Personally, I think it's the latter (since that could also tie in to how the attacker survived the fall with Kaito), and I hope it's the latter because that's far, far more creepy. Being stalked by a killer who can attack you remotely is Not Good.--Hardvice (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
          • Yeah, when I saw it originally it looked like the attacker wasn't actually there as well. My suspicion was that it had to do with the Being who can see Molly, but we'll see! (Admin 01:07, 4 October 2007 (EDT))
        • It could be that Matt's dad put a nightmare whammy on her. Or else, someone who has absorbed his power. Is there a theory page somewhere about who is going after the original 12? I'm wondering if it's an empath, as this would explain being able to knock Kato off the building without joining him at the bottom (flight or teleport) as well as messing with Angela at the police station. On the other hand, that would be too easy. (Kief 13:35, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
          • This isn't that far fetched, really. Claude recognized that Peter was an empath, so he has apparently encountered at least one before. --Ted C 13:44, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
          • I thought that at first, but that wouldn't explain what happened to the lights and the locked door.--Ice Vision 13:49, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
            • The lights could be an electrical power absorbed from Elle, or the guy in the comic. The locked door would be telekinesis. Kief 13:52, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
              • That's all true, but you don't need to be an empath to be multipowered. My theory is still that Angela is multipowered and could thus pull off all-of-the-above.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Powers

I know it's a bit early, but does anyone have any guesses on her power? --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 22:51, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

• http://heroeswiki.com/Theory:Angela_Petrelli has a lot of theories regarding this. Megalomania 08:27, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Angela and Kaito have made sweet love

I'm sure she told Matt Parkman that she slept with Kaito a long time ago. Furthermore if it was a long time ago, let's say the 60's, I doubt protection was used, which means that they may have had a child. I wouldn't want it to be Hiro of course, and it doesn't look that way but then again I have never seen or heard of his mother, any thoughts?

• Yeah they had sex, but for everything else, we can't know. But why not, nice thought ^^ --  (talk) 07:18, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
  • I could've sworn there was mention of Hiro's mother at some point in conversation between Hiro and his sister. I took the reference as posthumous. I think Hiro as a Petrelli is a little far fetched.--NissanVersaDootDoot 00:59, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
    • In Five Years Gone, Matt says Hiro is the son of Kaito and Ishi Nakamura. It's possible that Ishi is not his biologicial mother, but "not the real mommy" is a lot less common than "not the real daddy" for obvious reasons.--Hardvice (talk) 01:07, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
      • Please explain. JK. Why is it that the Petrellis are theorized to be so loose on this show? Geez.--Bob 02:28, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
        • Nathan is a bit of a slut. Peter did kinda steal Isaac's woman. Angela did Sulu. You do the math. :) --Hardvice (talk) 02:36, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
          • Nicely put, Hardvice.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:55, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
            • I hear in Kindred, Monty hooks up with a 3rd grade girl and a 4th grade girl at the same time--and they hold hands! (Slut!) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:03, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

Group of Twelve

The following sentence was removed, with the comment "rem speculation":

Angela and her late husband were members of a group of individuals who were involved in the Company's efforts at locating evolved humans.

There's nothing speculative here. Angela was definitely a member of this group, as evidenced by the Group of Twelve article and the several recent episodes where the photo is shown / discussed... and both Bob and Noah Bennet have said this group was involved involved in finding evolved humans for The Company. We don't know anything more specific at this point, which is why I didn't say anything more specific.

If there are no objections, I'll put the sentence back, because the current version ("Angela Petrelli is a member of a group of twelve, and the mother of Nathan and Peter") might be a bit confusing.

Cheers, Seansinc 04:45, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

• The speculation is the connection between the Company and the group. There is no evidence that the group founded the Company or vice-versa. In fact, there's no connection of Angela and the Company except that the Haitian takes orders from Angela that supersede those of the Company, which would indicate to me that she's separate of the Company. Hope that helps.--Bob (talk) 04:52, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

• Aha, thanks for the clarification. I'm fairly sure such a connection has been made, but I'm not 100% sure. Short of going back through all the episodes looking for evidence, how about if I alter the sentence to read as follows?

Angela and her late husband were members of a group of individuals who were involved in locating evolved humans years ago.

It's succinct but explains the basic idea without making the reader follow a link.

Seansinc 10:57, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

• This is one of those frustrating cases where we're trying to get from A to G and we've got A, C, E, and G but no B, D, or F, if you follow me. We know who the members of the group were because of the picture. We know a lot of them were evolved humans because we've seen them use powers. We know that a group of twelve people founded the company because Bob said so. However, even though it's so obvious as to seem confirmed, we don't know that the twelve people in the picture all have powers and founded the company. Even though the reasoning is perfectly sound, and it's been all but confirmed in interviews, etc., we still can't make assumptions that exceed our knowledge without venturing into speculation.--Hardvice (talk) 16:01, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

• Oh, no, we definitely can't say that all of them have powers or that they founded The Company. That would be complete speculation. Actually, the current introductory sentence (following recent edits by Ted C) covers what I was going to say nicely: "Angela Petrelli is a member of a group of twelve individuals who have been aware of evolved humans for years." If the reader follows the link to "group of twelve", they'll learn

"Of the known members, only Daniel Linderman, Bob, and Maury Parkman have confirmed abilities. It seems likely, however, that others in the group are evolved humans."

...from the Notes section on that page, as well as other bits on what we know and don't know about this group so far. So I think Angela's page is fine as is for now. -Seansinc 13:56, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Season 2, episode 5

Though she didn't make an appearance, it was mentioned that Matt visited Angela, after episode 4. Should this be related in the article? --Conspiracy Unit 23:00, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

• If you want, feel free. Plenty of non-appearances are recorded if the character is mentioned. See Lyle Bennet#Parasite, Chandra's super#Don't Look Back or the entire article for Mr. Petrelli. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:36, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Added Season One Summery.

I'm new to wiki editting but I got tired of seeing it as a stub. Feel free to clean it up, or scrap it all together if it is unsatisfactory. If people don't protest it, I'll probably do Simone and then the others later. -Lulu

• Actually, I'm wondering if we should lose Simone's Season One history and just put it back where it was. Even if she somehow appears in like, say, five more episodes, it still wouldn't be terribly long. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Considering it, that's probably the best way to do it, since it's rather unlikely she'll be in season two. And even if she is, then we could just add it to the page, I'm sure it wouldn't get terribly large. I just mentioned her because her summery is requested on the current events page. Lulu 21:11, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Same goes for our other dead guys, Isaac and D.L. We know that a certain ex-con is going to appear in episode 8, but I still think the page will be just fine without a season one history. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:13, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
      • Agree on all three counts. I'm not sure why we ever added summaries for season-one only (or mostly, in D.L.'s case) characters.--Hardvice (talk) 21:59, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
        • I'll go ahead and restore those summaries then. Of course, for anybody who disagrees, good luck finding this talk hidden on Angela's page. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:23, 27 October 2007 (EDT)