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This page is for general discussion of the iStory. For discussion and checklists for each iStory week, see the following iStory talk subpages.
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Split?

There's a lot of info. here about different characters related to the storyline, and the page as-is could get crowded rather quickly even with the collapsible table format I added. So perhaps it would be better to make a namespace for these stories like we did for the webisodes? That way we could more easily make checklists for what needs to be added to what page. Alternatively, we could just archive the previous weeks in separate subpages (that was actually initial plan when making this page). Does anyone have a preference?--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:01, 10 November 2008 (EST)

  • I'm glad to hear that your initial plan was to use subpages. I really don't like the idea of creating new namespaces for each chapter. I would keep throwing everything on this page, and then let's see where we go from there. We might find that there's a logical breaking point every three chapters, or something like that, where we can move old information into a subpage. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:09, 10 November 2008 (EST)
    • Ok, it would not have been a new namespace each week but just a new article in a "iStory" namespace, but using subpages could be better for now since we don't know that much about these stories. Any chance you can find out anything about the writer and artist from Joe, Ryan? PS: I've added a short checklist for week 1 at the top of this page so we all can collaborate.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:30, 10 November 2008 (EST)
      • As this page was getting big, I've moved the individual week discussions/checklists into subpages. Technically, they aren't really archives since this page is mainly for general discussion. I'm still interested in an iStory namespace, but this will do for now and it's better than using a pseudonamespace as previously discussed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:32, 4 December 2008 (EST)

Player articles

It appears that the same characters will appear regularly every week and mirror each other. Just a suggestion, but might we make articles called "Primatech IStory Player" and "Pinehearst IStory Player" so we can chronicle the two individual's adventures and make the summaries less confusing when we talk about faceoffs, like where they said "the player had to talk to the player", which really confused me until I read the other mission. If the (very plausible) comment in the above sub header was right, IStory could be divided into small chapters of 3 or 4 weeks, and we could find out our character's name eventually. Kortu 17:38, 11 November 2008 (EST)

  • I think the scene you're talking about is the gunfight, and I tried to be careful not to say "the player had to talk to the player" and used some "other person" in the summaries. If you've read both summaries, then I guess you might get confused if you think "player" is the same person in both stories. I've added a note to the intro to clarify. Does that make it clear for you? I think making separate iStory (note the small "i") player pages would be rather repetitive at this point, since the stories are basically all told in the perspective of (you) the player.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:35, 11 November 2008 (EST)
    • After seeing the new section below noting the name of this volume of the iStory (sorry 'bout the 'i' there) I think that we should only make character articles if the player(s) in the next volume are different from the ones in this volume. That way we'll have a little clarification. But thanks for the feedback MV. Kortu 14:01, 22 November 2008 (EST)
      • We are considering splitting off the Operations into separate pages, so that would essentially accomplish what you are suggesting. The only thing I added to that is that we might consider adding an "iStory" namespace so it's more obvious those articles are all related to the iStory.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:08, 22 November 2008 (EST)

Is this canon?

While it should definitely be chronicled, is this story canon? I don't remember where I read it, but someone official called this an "Alternate reality", which made me assume it's entirely for fun. I don't know.--Riddler 09:52, 13 November 2008 (EST)

  • No, it's not canon. All Heroes Evolutions content is near-canon. We should be careful about adding content from iStory to character pages etc., though, since there is more than one story. For instance, it might be okay to say that an agent (meaning the fan who is using iStory) meets Lloyd Collins, but we shouldn't say much more than that since there are a few versions of the story. That's my knee-jerk reaction to the content...But I would really hold off adding much of anything to other pages until we find out a bit where it's going, to be perfectly honest. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:39, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Friend or Foe

Based on the NBCUMV article, it looks like 'Friend of Foe' is the name of the current storyline for the iStory. I'm not sure if we can call 'Friend or Foe' as 'Volume One', though, but I wanted to note this now so we have a reference if the iStory title changes when we go into 'Fugitives'.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:20, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Numbering and titling

Are these numbers what NBC is using for this content? And what's with the same title for the different chapters? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 23:46, 21 November 2008 (EST)

  • Yeah, NBC is using these numbers (101, 102, 201, 202, etc.) for the url, and the same title (Operation Bad Blood, Operation Splinter) for different chapters (1 and 2) (see the recap here).--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2008 (EST)
    • Hmm...Not the way I'd release it or document it. althoug the other way to present it doesnt look much better while I think about it.--SacValleyDweller (talk) 00:43, 22 November 2008 (EST)
      • Since we're talking about documenting, I think we should have iStory be a brief overview of the game and the characters. Then I think we should have a page each for Operation Splinter and Operation Bad Blood, each with the full history of the story. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:02, 22 November 2008 (EST)
        • I like that! --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2008 (EST)
          • I think it's starting to make more sense to have the split articles be iStory:Operation Splinter, and iStory:Operation Bad Blood using a new iStory namespace. However, I'm not opposed to the main namespace split Ryan suggested. We can always move the articles again later if Admin decides to make such a namespace.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:00, 22 November 2008 (EST)
            • I don't see anything wrong with using a pseudonamespace like "iStory:Operation Splinter". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:43, 22 November 2008 (EST)
              • Using a pseudonamespace makes it harder for Admin to make a real namespace later, as he has to manually move the articles to the new namespace. That's one of the reasons we still don't have a "Portal" namespace, and I'd rather avoid doing that.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:22, 22 November 2008 (EST)
                • That's fine. Put the histories at Operation Bad Blood and Operation Splinter for now, and if we need to make more we can. I think that's a good solution for now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:04, 22 November 2008 (EST)
                  • Ok, histories have been moved, and I changed the iStory page to use inclusion to show only the latest summaries and game rules. Next up will be adding the characters overview. Feel free to take care of that as I'm not planning to start work on that right away.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:07, 23 November 2008 (EST)
                    • iStory character overview now taken care of by adding a characterbar. I thought that was the best way of handling it.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:36, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Italics

I noticed we've been using italics sometimes for Operation Bad Blood and Operation Splinter, and other times we haven't been. Is there any preference for using italics or not for these volume names?--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:17, 4 December 2008 (EST)

  • It could go either way, but we should be consistent throughout the site. Since you've been doing most of the iStory updates, Miami, you can certainly make whatever choice you'd like. I would do whatever requires the least amount of changes for you at this point. Just let us know what's decided so we can all follow suit. Thanks! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2008 (EST)
    • I haven't been using italics more than I have, and it seems we haven't been using them when it applies to volumes of Heroes episodes, so I guess it would be appropriate to not italicize the iStory ones.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:05, 4 December 2008 (EST)
      • That's what I would have done too. Thanks for standardizing it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:01, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Messages

I added the messages regarding the iStory onto this page as I thought this was the best current place for them. If anyone thinks there is a better place, please feel free to move my edit there. Also, I don't mean to step on anyone's toes (especially MiamiVolts, as I know you have done an awesome job with this page and the summary pages), but I figured that the messages did not belong on the Evs Dropper's Messages page as the aren't sent from Evs or FOCL or any of them. Thanks! --Heroes360 18:00, 10 December 2008 (EST)

  • Agreed. It was a good idea moving them here. Thanks.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:25, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Writers credits?

According to lotsofinterviews recent interview with Harrison Wilcox, Harrison said: "After the three-parter [Kill Squad graphic novels], John O'Hara (from New Media) and I decided that it would be cool to keep telling Kill Squad stories and at the moment the best place to do that, was on Heroes Evolutions. So yes, I knew about it, and helped out a little." So should we credit John O'Hara and Harrison Wilcox fully as the official co-writers for iStory "Friend or Foe" or just note on their pages that they just "helped out a little" in writing it? Ryan, did you ever hear back from Harrison yourself?--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2008 (EST)

  • I would prefer if you didn't use my full name.--Skywalkerrbf 17:13, 13 December 2008 (EST)
    • Ok. On your website, you specify that it is your interview and give your full name in the "About" section. You may wish to change that.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:12, 13 December 2008 (EST)
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