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Psychoanalysis

During Sylar's last conversation with Mohinder, we again heard the distinctive clock-ticking sound effect. I'm wondering if we should consider this a sign that he is analyzing the person with his special ability. --Ted C 13:11, 13 February 2007 (EST)

  • It's a tough one, because it's also kind of used simply as "the Sylar sound effect". He certainly was "eerie" the way he was speaking to Mohinder, but I'm not exactly sure how to best note this as an example of his power. It's still kind of speculation, you know? It's a tough call. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:42, 13 February 2007 (EST)

Power of Persuasion?

In Episode 14 after Sylar uses telekenesis to throw Mrs. Bennet against the glass cabinet, he walks over to her and says "Hi". At this point his voice has an unusually deep tone, reminiscent of the way Eden spoke while using her power of persuasion. Perhaps he was about to use the ability to get Mrs. Bennet on "his side" and help him get close to Claire? Unfortunately, we can't be sure as HRG arrived before he could continue.

Given this is not mentioned in the article, I thought I'd table it for discussion. --Astroboy 08:10, 13 February 2007 (EST)

  • They answer this in the latest CBR interview. They say they were just slowing down the scene to show Sandra's perspective and they say Sylar did not get Eden's power. (Admin 08:28, 13 February 2007 (EST))
    • It's made pretty clear in Graphic Novel:Fathers and Daughters that Eden prevented Sylar from getting her power. Guess you can only eat solid brain, not brain soup. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:43, 13 February 2007 (EST)
      • So what is the wierd voice thing he does as seen in .07%--ASEO 16:12, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
        • Not Eden's power. For one thing, the writers have said repeatedly that he doesn't have it. For another, Isaac doesn't even think about obeying; he thinks about going for his gun. There's a theory that it's some kind of "power voice" that can push people back. Personally, I think it's getting to the point where it almost has to be something apart from artistic license, but if it is a power, it's a pretty lame one (Ooh! Scary voice!) or one he doesn't use very well (if it's more like Banshee or Blackbolt).--Hardvice (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Brain Eating

  • Why do we assume Sylar's eating the brains? Are we that morbid? :) While it's a popular theory, I suspect if he's harnessing their powers he's doing something a little more interesting. Perhaps extracting cells from the brain and injecting them into his own? Or even splicing the DNA with his own. Maybe Chandra helped him learn how to do it? Let's face it, if you eat a brain you're just going to digest it and absorb the amino acids and other basic components, not the DNA. :) There's no problem with including the "brain eating" as is since we're only using it in the Fan Theories sections, but it's still amusing how many of us just assume he's eating the brains he takes. heh. (Admin 19:02, 14 November 2006 (EST))
    • What, you mean you don't enjoy a nice tasty brain every now and then ? --Orne 15:26, 20 November 2006 (EST)
      • In all honesty, I believe you are right. Rereading the Sylar answering machine message, I believe Chandra "made" Sylar by enhancing his latent genes, making him a Patient Zero in effect. The map is basically showing "power" lines, and where the two lines cross, there is a potential for an individual to have the powers that the colors represent. Likewise, HRG's Organization knows this too, and is capturing and enhancing individuals by 'activating evolution'. Sylar knows this too, and is probably capturing and extracting the genes from the brains of the dead, possibly to enhance his own powerset. --Orne 15:26, 20 November 2006 (EST)
    • As long as it's in a Fan Theories section, I personally don't really mind if we say Sylar is Ann Coulter in man-drag. Personally, I think the brain eating thing sounds really silly, and if it's true I'll lose a ton of respect for the writers, but it is a popular theory. But honestly, the whole brain thing could be as simple as making sure that dead heroes stay dead. We don't have any proof that he necessarily knows what his victims can do, but a de-brainsed hero seems like a safe bet for a dead hero, even if they can regenerate or play dead or something. Also, as we see with Charlie, it's a heck of a lot quicker than pinning somebody to the walls and forcing the family silver into them one place setting at a time, which gives them less of a chance to use their powers to retaliate. But I suspect since he takes the brains, he's up to something with them. But he's not necessarily eating them. Heck, he's a serial killer ... maybe they're just trophies.--Hardvice (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2006 (EST)
      • So apparently in an interview with Bryan Fuller over at Comic News Insider, he states concerning Sylar that "...what we've always talked about in the writing staff was that he kills people and he eats their brains...". So it seems that's the impression the writers have as well. Full interview (audio) can be found here. He does admit they've kept it purposely vague because of worries about the silliness of it, so for my own part I hope they come to realize just how silly that is before making it official on the show. :) (Admin 16:56, 2 January 2007 (EST))
        • Seems like the whole brain eating thing, which Zachary Quinto says is the impression he goes by, is largely the type of dramatic effect they want the creepiness to have but they realize that it's scientifically silly (of which I'm very glad since that'd show that they do have some respect for science here hehe). But perhaps the writers are keeping up with this wiki discussion? Bennet did say that he thought Sylar had spliced so many alterations into his DNA that it'd driven him insane which seems to almost echo what Admin said up above, and the dates of Admin's statement and the show are consistent with the possibility. Of course, it's also possible they read it elsewhere or came upon the idea themselves, since if brain eating is silly, DNA splicing isn't that far a next logical jump. --Glue 06:25, 14 February 2007 (EST)
  • FWIW, in one of the recent commentary tracks, they talk about Sylar eating brains, and then another person says something along the lines of "wait! we don't know what he does with the brains" in a mock serious voice. --Frantik 08:20, 13 February 2007 (EST)

613

the Article says "This list was first compiled by Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon in the 12th century C.E"

That's incorrect. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot

Altar Boy

In the 316/613 theory that was just deleted, it mentioned Sylar was an altar boy. Is this completely fabricated, or does somebody know something I don't? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:02, 5 January 2007 (EST)

  • There's a picture of an altar boy near the Paul E. Sylar birth announcement. In traditional Internet theory fashion, this means Sylar is an altar boy. Of course, now that the birth announcement is debunked, the whole thing is crap.--Hardvice (talk) 03:05, 5 January 2007 (EST)
    • Ah, yes, the old Paul E. Sylar reference. Hey, isn't Paul E. Sylar Mr. Bennet's boss? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:24, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Forgive me, for I have sinned.

Whatever happened to the maniacally depressed, psychotic Sylar that Mohinder learned of while searching his apartment?--Riddler 01:34, 29 January 2007 (EST)

Oh, I believe he's still psychotic. As for maniacally depressed, I think that little room still exists somewhere in the recesses of his brain — I believe he still has a hint of guilt for what he does. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:48, 29 January 2007 (EST)
On Sylar's Apartment discussion page I posted links to a bunch of photos from the NBC site of his apartment. It seems to indicate an incredible religiosity - and not just due to the phrase everywhere....but all of the candles and what appears to be Saints and such. Bkdelong 20:32, 17 February 2007 (EST)

Plastic Attachment

At the end of The Fix, it appears there is a piece of plastic attached to the back of Sylar's head on the right. It appeared to be a shunt of some kind or some way to access the brain. Could someone with more medical training identify what this is? Thanks!! Disney42 01:17, 30 January 2007 (EST)

Sylar
Check this image extracted from primatechpaper.com it appears to be the shunt. And btw, what about the "tic-tac" thing we hear in Sylar's head since he feinted death ? --FrenchFlo 11:19, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Are powers ALL he absorbs?

In the page for Zane Taylor it mentions:

he demonstrates Zane's ability, at certain points even mimicking Zane's comments and manner of speaking.

and this got me to thinking. Is it possible Sylar is, at least in the short term, absorbing more than just power? Could he get some knowledge and maybe memories or personality?

I ask because, before he ate his first power, his personality seemed very different than the aggressive hunter he is today. Perhaps he gets some residual long-term things from each consumed victim, and, in the short term, this could explain his very definite mimicry of Taylor. --Waffle Fan 18:35, 15 February 2007 (EST)

  • Personally, I think he was just imitating Zane so Mohinder would recognize his voice and mannerisms. He certainly didn't affect Charlie's accent or even Zane's twichiness. It was purposely put on, not absorbed, in my opinion. His personality does seem to have changed since we saw him in 6MA, but becoming a serial killer might do that to a person. I think Zachary Quinto is also developing his role as the episodes progress. Interesting thought though. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:42, 15 February 2007 (EST)


Possible Power?

Could Syler possibly have the power to fake death so well, but really be alive. Cause I don't think it's easy that once you're dead you're going to wake up. --Bettyfizzw 09:38, 17 February 2007 (EST)

All point to telekinesis?

A thought: one could destablize metals and create ice from the air by slowing down and speeding up molecules. Something to think about - I wonder if Sylar's intuition will enable him to figure out how to augment his powers based on what he knows. Bkdelong 21:29, 17 February 2007 (EST)

Fixed his eyesight?

Just noticed this, but Sylar ditches his glasses after acquiring TK. Did he somehow do eye surgery on himself or figure out how to fix the connections from his eyes to his brain to improve his eyesight? (Or just a stretch, but did he purchase contacts????) - Bob

  • If I recall corretly, the glasses Sylar had were for optical zoom when working with small things. Jewelers often were these kinds of glasses, as do most watch and clock makers. --BottomlessPitMan 17:57, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

Picture??

Noticed it linked from FARK.com, the picture's not Sylar, it's the Wiki book logo. --Baldbobbo 19:45, 2 March 2007 (EST)

Directly linking to images on other sites, like that fark.com post is doing, is stealing bandwidth (which is not free). It's especially harmful when done on high traffic sites like fark.com, so sites like that are disallowed from linking directly to images here and instead get that little ad. Not to mention that it states on the main page of this wiki that any direct offsite image linking should also include a link to the wiki itself. By the way if that posting happens to be yours and they let people edit posts, removing the image would be appreciated. :) (Admin 20:32, 2 March 2007 (EST))
Nah, wasn't me, just saw it, always gets my attention if a site like this shows up on FARK, especially for a non-Heroes related article --Baldbobbo 16:22, 3 March 2007 (EST)

Thoughts on Sylar's power

I just recently had a thought about the whole Sylar/Peter thing, and realised what how this all is connected and intentional (as other things in the Heroes story appear to be). Everyone knows that Sylar's ability is to be able to find out how things work,but in my view this is less about just stealing people's abilities and more about being able to control them. Wouldn't this suggest that Peter, after coming into contact with Sylar, is able to find out how all his powers work and be able to control them much better?

I know that this is a bit dodgy given that Peter has been near Sylar before, but it seems more like Peter can only empathise with hero's abilities when he comes in contact with the abilities themselves rather than just the person (despite a little evidence to the contrary when Peter uses healing powers at the homecoming after only being near Claire momentarily).

I'm putting this suggestion out there just to see what other people think of it and I guess to see how much I deserve waffles.

  • He was in contact with Sylar. He got pushed off a building by Sylar. That's why he has telekinetic ability. I get what you're saying, and yes, he was not able to do replicate an ability until after he made contact with Sylar. However, mentoring from Claude is what brought about the change in Peter to control his ability. --Bob 11:39, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

First!

I just figured out that Sylar is the first character in the articles-with-the-most-revisions' page, he has about 120 more edits than Peter (the twice), that's just impressive! It seems we love him! -- FrenchFlo (talk)        15:19, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

  • ...or at least that we had a time when we couldn't figure out what his power was. Remember "To fix things and know exactly how they work"? Ugh. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:04, 2 April 2007 (EDT)