Spoiler talk:Heroes

Really big spoilers

• I don't think we should post spoilers like that. It's really hard for people NOT to look at them especially people that are so excited like me. I think it would be a good idea to take them down. Could you guys please consider this? Jason Garrick 21:48, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

The Haitian

He's back. He said so himself at Collectormania. Micah's back also, obviously. They have no idea what's gonna be in season three, though, since they haven't had the scripts. All they know is that they are back for the early episodes. Of which there are 24. --DocM 12:50, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Inside the writers' room

Here's a couple of pictures from inside the writers' room. It'd be interesting to know what's on those boards! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

Evsdropr's spoilers

If you go through Evsdropr's comments on 9th wonders, you can find some interesting spoilers. -Lөvөl 00:48, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Season Three episode titles

• I got a message from Craig at herosite.com. He posted the titles of the first four episodes of the third season which he got from an inside source. About an hour later, he was asked to take down the titles. During that time, spoilertv saw the titles and added them on their site. Craig asked me if we could take the titles off Heroes Wiki. Thoughts? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:54, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
  • Who exactly asked him to take them down? I wouldn't see the harm of them, they don't tell you anything about the plot. They just serve for speculation. Heroes Television also still has them up, which is the source we've posted.--  Seclusion  talk / contribs 09:13, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
    • I'd leave them up. The "inside source" is probably fearing some trouble, but since the information is already out there and the titles normally get released in advance anyways, I don't see our taking them down doing much good.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
      • Take down the titles, but keep the heroestelevision link. It's a win-win situation. :) --Looky 18:35, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
        • The person who asked Craig to take them down is the same person who mistakenly gave Craig the information. My concerns with leaving the information up is straining a relationship with another site (that often gets very good inside information) and with getting people in trouble for something they shouldn't have done. Plus, it's just nice and respectful to honor the wishes of the creative staff, period....I've emailed Craig for more detailed information on the situation and to let him know that it's relatively public information now. Looky's idea is basically what I've suggested to Craig. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:53, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
          • I'll take it down. If someone wants the link, they can look at the history.--Bob (talk) 19:17, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
            • Thanks, Bob. Of course, once I hear something back, I'll let y'all know. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
• I'm seeing the episode titles all over the internet now, so I think it's safe to replace the links and go full force with the information now. I think we did our kind service, and now we're just looking like we're outdated. I'll fix it all up now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:27, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Theories

Would it be possible to move the theories on this page, so they have their own seperate page? --Thetobiasempire 20:17, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

• They are spoiler theories so they don't really fit on a theory page, and my thought is that there's not enough to warrant a separate page.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Parkman

Odd, but Jesse Alexander just updated his Facebook status with "Jesse Alexander is gonna still be breaking 7 tomorrow. PARKMAN!!!!!". Does this mean that Matt or Maury will be in episode seven? Only time will tell. --DocM 21:09, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Unknown Assassin Revealed?

In the latest trailer for the preview of Heroes, we see a man in black coat and a cap leaving the Odessa Police Department. And it's future Peter. Chrisyu357 06:19, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

• Future Peter and Peter are gonna meet, they're gonna absorb each others' powers, and then the entire world will be destroyed. That's the catastrophe they're meant to prevent - but it's too late. First minute of season three? The end of Earth. --DocM 06:46, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

5/21 Sylar spoiler

Did I miss something? To me, the link for 5/21 spoiler doesn't match the description.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:31, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

• Fixed link. I read that beforehand and was going to post it, so I didn't check it when I reworded it. --  Seclusion  talk / contribs 03:18, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
  • I've wanted a time travelling Sylar since Fallout. --DocM 08:18, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

About Adrian's Comment

I think he just meant Claire being Angela's granddaughter as the third child. It's probably just the internet exploding into theories. Then again, being a Lost fan, I'm a freak for theories no matter how bad they sound, so maybe Adrian really did screw up and Hiro is the bastardization of her and Kaito's relationship or Matt is from her and Maury. Angela is the Heroes bicycle, it seems. :P --NellaBishop 19:53, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

• Isn't it possible, nay probable, that Sophie would be her third child. She is easy to write in as an extra child since there is no backstory to add to in possibly confusing ways; she speaks French, a language Angela would know with her contacts in France; and her connections to the "mysterious organization" allows her to be tied in to Nathan's assassination. Just a thought :) --Gac 19:53, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
  • 6/16 — In a video segment of E! Online's Watch with Kristin Show, Kristin dishes that Sylar's heart may actually grow a few sizes in Season Three. She elaborates that he will "do some surprising good-guy stuff and will have a surprising connection to a good-guy character [we] already know." Hmmmm Chrisyu357 07:09, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

31/5 Spoilers

Just got an email from heroestelevision.com with a bunch of new spoilers, but didn't know whether any had been added already... it says the last date spoilers were added is 28/5 so I'm guessing at least a few of them on the page are new... check them out here to see if there's any that haven't already been added. (Friskymuffin - (talk) 05:37, 2 June 2008 (EDT))

• Looks like we already have them. Thanks for the pointer, though.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:51, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

6/16 — Kristin of E! Online claims

... if the second adopted character turns out to be Peter, just so that they can have him hook up with Claire, I will be very, very disappointed with the show. Let the speculation begin. (Guilty pleasure: glancing at spoilers.)--Riddler 23:03, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

• I still think it'll be Sylar. If it's Peter, it would definitely be a shock, but I don't see that happening.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:15, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
  • What, no love for the Hiro-as-Petrelli theory? :)) But in fairness, the Sylar one makes the most sense, and fits with a lot of the info that's already been released. Him having a connection to a good-guy character we already know, Angela having three kids, and so on. --Blacklash 07:52, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Matt is the third Petrelli brother. Trust me on this one. --DocM 11:53, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
      • Is it ok that I don't?  :) Action Figure 00:14, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Kristin's Mohinder Comments

More than meets the eye? "Scale" back? Anyone else remembering Chandra's Mohinder the lizard? Think he has dynamic camouflage? ---Action Figure 17:39, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

• I think Kristin means Mohinder has a form of size transformation, similar to the effect of "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids". I'm guessing that it's related to the pyramid in the vault. He'll shrink himself in order to go inside.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:14, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
  • Talk about out of NO WHERE. If that is the case, that'd be more outta left-field than Gina. XP -*-*Action Figure 00:19, 9 July 2008 (EDT)*-*-

Latest spoiler

"6/10 — N'Tare Mwine has joined the cast as an Aboriginal story teller named Usutu. Usutu will appear in episodes 3 and 4. This will not be the first time he has worked with Heroes. N'Tare Mwine was originally to play the terrorist Joseph Al Amir in the unaired pilot."

"7/11 — Hollywood Reporter claims that Ntare Mwine (Blood Diamond) will play an African who is artistic and close to many of the original heroes. His special abilities will be developed throughout his nine-episode arc. According to IMDb.com, Mwine's character will be named "Usutu", and will first appear in the third episode."

I don't see much of a difference... apart from it gives a couple of extra details. Maybe the first and second should be merged or something? -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 11:27, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

• Good spot! I missed the earlier note, so I'll trim the info. Thanks for the heads-up!--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
  • No problem :) I thought you'd seen it and just wanted to update it, but I thought I'd point it out anyway. -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 11:44, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
    • There was also a clarification, as the earlier report claimed he would be an Aborigine (native Australian), but I trimmed off the third-episode stuff since it'd already been mentioned.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:57, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
      • Aborigine w/o the capitalization just means someone who originates from a certain place. So he could be an aborigine of whatever part of Africa he is from. ---Action Figure 14:36, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Mohinder Again

• Hanging from the ceiling... injecting himself w/ a syringe... looks like I might have been right about the Mohinder the Lizard comment... ---Action Figure 23:25, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
  • Why are they giving him a power, I haaaaaate this. D: --NellaBishop 20:50, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
    • I doubt it's a permanent power...read the fan theories for a potential explanation.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
      • I almost thought I saw Alejandro in hanging from the ceiling, but on pause I saw Mohinder... but some of these spoilers seem to jump the gun a bit. I didn't see Claire fighting Sylar, I saw two separate scenes that COULD be placed together, but aren't necessarily. This has happened in the past, if I recall correctly, it happened with Nikki banging on a door, we thought it had to do with someone else but it turned out different. And who says Mohinder has a power? The hanging scene, it looks like he's in pain, like he was hung there by someone. Dunno. --Riddler 21:03, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
        • Kristin of E! Online said that it wouldn't be wrong to say that Mohinder has a power at some point in Season Three. My guesses are lizard mimicry or scaling (shrinking/enlarging himself and others), and since it sounds temporary, it'll probably be due to a power transference device or virus.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:53, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
      • Also, "Sorry Peter, I always loved you." Seems to play on my worst fear about the show. The earlier spoiler that said two people aren't actually related... I feared that that was Peter and Claire, just so that they could match the two up on the show since they're together in real life. I'll be so disappointed.--Riddler 03:35, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
        • Yeah, I'm hoping that it doesn't turn out that Angela lied about Claire and Peter being related. Elle and Bob is a possibility since they were previously planning on having Elle be Claire's sister; I think, though, that the later spoilers clarify that the adoption stuff refers to Sylar.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:53, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

Coffin in Level 5 cell

• Did anyone notice the coffin or what looked like one in the latest spoiler video? If I had to guess it would be that it is Adam Monroe. What is everyones thoughts?--Iceman 15:22, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
  • It probably is Adam's coffin. Good spot.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:24, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Comi-con spoilers

If the consensus is the Comi-con spoilers have too much spoilage, maybe we should have a special page in the spoiler namespace for them (e.g. Spoiler:Comi-con)? I haven't checked them out yet, myself. I'm waiting to see tomorrow's webisode first, cause I know that webisode is one of the things comi-con viewers got to see. If you do make the page, please remember to put something generic and non-spoiler in the summary tag so those of us that check the recentchanges aren't spoiled by the content of the article.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:12, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Spoiler:Season Three vs. Spoiler:Upcoming episodes

Can someone who has been around longer than me explain to me the difference between these two spoiler page and why we need them both. I don't think I get it... Pierre 19:01, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

• "Upcoming episodes" is for spoiler info. that doesn't apply to a specific individual episode or where the episode the info. would apply to is unknown. For instance, if you know a character is supposed to appear in Season Three, but not when or how long, then use "Upcoming episodes". We also use the "upcoming episodes" page for graphic novel/webisodes/other spoilers since the "Season Three" page is for discussion of episodes only.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:00, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
  • Uh... then why is Spoiler:Season Three filled of "spoiler info. that doesn't apply to a specific individual episode or where the episode the info. would apply to is unknown." ....?.... Pierre 06:41, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Cause many people aren't following the guidelines. Myself, I'm currently staying away from most the spoilers since I'm trying to avoid the comi-con stuff.--MiamiVolts (talk) 09:18, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Actually, general spoiler information about Season Three (like the knowledge that a character is supposed to appear in Season Three, but not knowing when or how long) should go on Spoiler:Season Three. Spoiler:Upcoming episodes should be for general information about Heroes that doesn't apply to a specific season. For instance, "Writers revealed that Peter will die before the series is over" is an example of a spoiler that belongs on the upcoming episodes spoiler page. On a related note, I've long thought we should move the upcoming episodes spoiler page to "Spoiler:Heroes" to be a more catchall page, especially since it has spoilers about graphic novel, Evolutions, and webisodes--none of which are upcoming episodes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:06, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Yeah, I'd agree with that move.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:13, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
        • Why don't merge both spoilers articles into one. It will minimize the risk of users misunderstanding it, and different categories of spoilers can easily be separated by different headings. Headings that is much easier to change, than entire article names. Pierre 11:23, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
          • Cause there's too many spoilers for one article. I'm actually in favor of a third article just for the Comi-con spoilers so I don't have to read them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:47, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
            • Please, by all means, no! It won't be user friendly, which is the most important when maintaining a wiki. And, anyone who actually understand the difference between the different spoiler page - please write a proper introduction so that it can also be used correctly by newer contributors. As always in wiki editing - repeatedly mistakes should by considered due to lack of information, not lack of user capacity. Pierre 13:12, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
          • I don't really mind one way or the other, but I'd be fine with combining all the spoilers on one page. It's kind of an arbitrary designation, and not one I really care to maintain too much. Either way is fine with me. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:24, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
• Yeah - the lack of maintenance is yet a reason to combine the spoiler pages. If we are worried that it will grow to big, I guess we could have Spoiler:Heroes, Spoiler:Graphic Novels, Spoiler:Webisodes and Spoiler:Heroes Evolutions - that way we will keep the length of the individual pages down somewhat, and it will be quite clear where to add new spoilers, and where to find spoilers regarding a specific topic. Pierre 06:12, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
  • I like that plan better than lumping everything together.--MiamiVolts (talk) 08:42, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Makes sense, but I have never seen Heroes Evolutions spoilers. And since we don't know if more webisodes are coming, I think these two should be merged into Spoiler:Others or something like that. Only the episodes and Graphic Novels have a somewhat constant release.--Referos 13:43, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
      • I don't know about the others, but I hate having related information on several pages. When I search for Spoilers, I want them all in one place. --Looky 13:40, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
        • Spoiler:Season Three is currently huge, I think we can wait to merge until it gets smaller. The other spoilers are small and rare, I see no reason to split them but it could be renamed, -Lөvөl 14:46, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
• Umm, shouldn't Spoiler:Upcoming episodes have been renamed Spoiler:Heroes and Spoiler:Season Three been left alone? With the current rename it kind of switches their purposes. -Lөvөl 11:24, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
  • The redirections were a mess for a while, after the transition, but I think they are corrected now. Pierre 11:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
    • I think having Spoiler:Heroes and Spoiler:Others makes it more confusing (is this spoiler for Heroes or is it for others?), I think we should have Spoiler:Heroes and Spoiler:Season Three. -Lөvөl 12:01, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Ah - now I see what you are getting at :) If you see the discussion above, the general opinion was to gather all spoilers about the series proper in one article (Spoiler:Heroes) and have one article for spoilers about GNs, webisodes, Evolutions, etc (Spoiler:Other). I've tried to explain the difference in the initial text of both articles, but I'm sure it could be done even better. Regarding the name of Spoiler:Other, I agree that the name isn't the best - please post any suggestions at Spoiler talk:Other#Name. Pierre 12:06, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Season 3 Titles

• So the first episode is called "A Second Coming" and not "The Butterfly Effect"? Does that mean that all the other titles are wrong? HiroMystery 00:10, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
  • No not really. The other titles for the episodes could remain what they are. They do this quite often with episode titles.--The Empath 17:07, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

New picture

New cast picture. I can't upload it from where I am...but we might want to wait to see if we can find a bigger version. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:49, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

• One question: Who is the girl between Matt and Sylar? Chrisyu357 10:53, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
  • Could be Maya perhaps...? --Looky 14:05, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
  • Yep, that's my question, too. I was wondering if it's Molly all grown up? It's good to see Angela included in this picture, and it's interesting that Niki and Nathan are there too...MIA: Adam, Elle, Maya, Micah, Mohinder, and Monica. I don't think this is really a shot of the entire main cast, then. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:07, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
    • I uploaded it for you, but we can always update it with the official cast photo.--Bob (talk) 11:11, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Mohinder's there, on the far right.--Paronine 11:11, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Thats definately Maya. All the discusion going on about it in different places is making me laugh. This isnt the first place I saw the "grown up molly" theory... o_0 weird. Maya is the series regular after all, of course shes in the pic. Action Figure 17:48, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Obviously ppl are watching to much "The 4400" :)
      • IMO it's quite off the top to say that it is "definitely" Maya or that she "of course" is in the photo. As been noted, several main characters is missing from the picture, and Angela - who wasn't a regular when the series left off - is included. So as far as I can see it can be pretty much anyone; Maya, grown up Molly, Linda Tavara risen, Sparrow Redhawke, Matt's long lost sister, Adam in disguise, Micah after a sexchange.... Personally, I wouldn't mind if its Mohinder's kissing friend (who some ppl also believe to be Maya...) Mohinder needs to get it on with someone... Pierre 05:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
      • That girl has brown hair and is most probably white.She may be Elle with her hair dyed, Angela from a flashback, Molly affected by the power of age manipulation, or Sylar's sister. On a more serious note, I think she's journal female 2. Chrisyu357 09:22, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Pictures from the set and fresh spoiler video

From my bud Mr. ODI: Video of Peter falling off a building and BTS pics of Elle and Noah...and some dude. Somebody else can post this stuff on the main spoiler page, and/or upload images if they'd like. Thanks! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:39, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Season 3 Episode 2

Um.. The second episode is apparently called "The Butterfly Effect".

Here's the link:[1]

Can anyone change it? I'll also add the blurb for that.

• IMDb lists it as The Second Coming. Obviously one is wrong, but it's hard to say which. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
  • Are we really sure that the second episode is called The Butterfly Effect? IMDb begs to differ. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:10, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
    • There is a little confusion, but Part 2 (second hour) of the premiere is Episode 2 and is indeed titled The Butterfly Effect. Part 1 (hour 1, which was shown at Comic Con) is titled The (A) Second Coming. Hope that clears things up? The ODI 16:44, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

Spoilers being played off like they are theories

The last two "Fan Thoeries" are actually spoilers that were shown and told about in the first episode of Season 3 that was shown at Comic-Con. Can anyone tell me whether I should delete them.--Iceman 08:52, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

• Since it spells out the details of a page that's hotlinked, I think that it should be removed. It spoils a little bit too much, whereas most spoilers that are summarized are casting or smaller spoilers. This details something big, so I'll remove it.--Bob (talk) 09:12, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
  • Agree. Spoilers are spoilers, and theories are theories. Adding a spoiler under the guise of a theory is like making a kid drink tomato juice and telling him it's just really thick Kool-Aid. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:14, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

ODI sound

On that ODI site, the sound for the videos never works. Does anyone else have this problem? Watchmaker 11:41, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

• The sound issue is with the new version of flash available. So all you have to do about fixing it is:
  • Make sure you have the latest version of flash, if you do then try closing your browser and reopening. That should do it. The ODI 14:43, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
• Works fine for me except I always have to turn the volume way down. Shoyru1177 14:01, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
  • I'm buddies with the webmaster. I'll let him know. I had an issue with one of his links that accidentally pointed to a site filled with porn. Not good. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:15, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Whoa porn!? That is not good, which post Ryan? The ODI 14:43, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
      • Oh, I can't remember now. It was definitely a link that went to some pictures of Hayden Panettiere. The pictures of Hayden were fine, but there were a bunch of really glaring ads for porn sites at the top. The pictures of Hayden weren't hosted at your site, they were somewhere else. Can't remember which post now, but it was probably one made around the beginning of August. Not a big deal now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:22, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
        • Cool, I think I know what you are talking about. Some of the HQ pics we get are sent in from fans where they have them hosted via 3rd party sites and THOSE page will have ads. I just wanted to make sure a link to my site did not open it. It is hard to save and host all the HQ pics, so we just use what is sent to us. I will keep my eyes open about that. The ODI 16:40, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Works for me now. Thanks. Watchmaker 16:44, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

Spoilers from Zachary

• Sylar has a son named Noah!
• He uses Isaac's Future Painting Powers
• They are living in he Bennet home
• Noah is "gifted"
  • My thoughts? Sylar proposes to Claire, he moves in, and they live happily ever after. Chrisyu357 05:46, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
    • I agree with Chrisyu357. From what I've heard, I think that Noah's mother will most likely be Claire. At first, I thought it would be Elle [along with many other people], but now it make more sense if it were Claire. Kristin Dos Santos from E! Online said that Noah's mother would be a shock, then with them living in the Bennet home and pictures on the ODI of Sylar & Claire hugging, and then on top of that their son is named Noah, probably after Claire's father.
      • Isn't Sylar about the same age as Peter? Like 10+ years older than her? I thought they were against Paire because of the age difference, even before they were related. Would they really go this way again? Besides, that would be a horrible storyline. --Yamawhata? 14:47, 27 August 2008 (EDT)
        • Well the Sylar/Claire storyline would be set in the future, and by that stage the age difference probably wouldn't seem as big as it had whenever Claire was still a teenager. Although, honestly, I think I'd still prefer Claire with Peter than Sylar. I just can't really see them together properly.

IMDb new pictures

IMDb has some new pictures from Episode 1 of Season 3. If anyone would like to add them, be my guest. --Looky 19:37, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

New Official Sneak Peek

Did anyone else notice what looked like Future Peter using Illusion to look like Present Peter? Obviously with knowing that Future Peter poses as Present Peter you would figure that he couldn't be walking around with the scar without people noticing it.--Iceman 09:39, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

• As far as I can remember from the premiere shown at Comic Con, Future Peter actually jumps into Present Peter. The ODI 14:45, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
• What do you mean by jumps into? Watch the new sneak peek and when Peter is walking down what looks like a Company hallway he drops an illusion. It's a very slight change but if you watch his face and clothes you can tell that something is happened.--Iceman 07:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
  • Well as far as I remember from the premiere I got the impression that Future Peter somehow warps into or "jumps" in to present Peter. Maybe it is just an illusion, but Angela knows Future Peter did something to Present Peter and asks FP several times where PP is?? FP says something like that he is ok in a safe place. The scene then jumps to the bald villain in Level 5 that is yelling "I am Peter Petrelli" indicating FP trapped PP inside the villain. I hope that all makes sense? lol The ODI 17:55, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Untold Stories

Is there any evidence that the Untold Stories will, or will not, be in season 3? Some of them have already began to show up here as spoilers, they probably shouldn't, unless there is evidence that they are going to be used in season 3. -Lөvөl 17:06, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

• No confirmation yet, but some of the scenes had shown up in various promos. Also, the new Sylar clip we posted actually confirms how he has a couple of powers when he encounters Claire in the Season Premiere. So I think they might be valid. The ODI 19:45, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
• The way that I am looking at these Untold Stories are as of right now they are just like deleted scenes until they actually are shown in an episode. If Sylar already had Chameleon girls power and the impenetreble skin then he would not need surgery and/or Hiro would not have been able to stab him and he would not have said that he can't wait to try Peter's invisibility power. Also I really believe that these scenes were possibly meant to be in Season 1 but for some reason they didn't put them in. The reason for that is like a lot of people have been saying these powers could explain a lot of odd situations in Season 1.--Iceman 08:56, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
  • I think these were actually meant to be from the second part of Season 2 (Exodus). They'd mentioned at the time that before the writer's strike interfered with things, that they'd already been pre-filming a few of Sylar's scenes from that Volume because Quinto would have to be off-set for a while to film the new Star Trek movie. So instead of writing the character out for the season while Quinto was away, they just filmed some of his material ahead of time, to insert into episodes where needed and show him growing over the volume (and presumably, ready to come back at full force in Villians once Star Trek had wrapped filming). Now that Exodus was skipped and we're going straight into Villians, and Quinto's back on set full time, I assume that they won't bother using that footage anymore (they wouldn't have released it on the DVD if they were going to). --Maelwys 09:37, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
• I completely agree I guess I was trying to explain to myself how some of the things happened in Season 1(besides with tk) but I do remember the thing about Quinto being offset so it makes sense. Am I correct though when I say that these scenes should be treated as deleted scenes are treated and that they are not canon?--Iceman 09:47, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
  • Basically I would say anything unaired or "Deleted scenes" is NOT canon. So yes you are right. I was just making an observation in this case it seems like these scenes explain his abilities in this season's premiere. They also have used some of these "Missing Episode" scenes in some of the promos, so how do we look at those then?? The ODI 05:36, 5 September 2008 (EDT)
    • They're just promos. Marketing has nothing to do with content of the show, it's all run by NBC. Marketing online has shown DL to be Jimmy Jean Louis and that DL is a shape-shifter. Don't trust marketing, they may not use anything in promos on the show. I still don't know what you're referring to about Sylar using some abilities in the season premiere. Are you referring to the knife in the chest? If so, Claire wouldn't have been able to cut into Sylar's skin. After all, Sylar couldn't cut into the man's forehead.--Bob (talk) 14:12, 6 September 2008 (EDT)
      • In the season premiere, when Sylar attacks Claire, she can not see him, like he is invisible. Same power as "Chameleon Girl" in unaired scene. Similarly, the other unaired scene shows Sylar gain a power from some one with some thing like Super Skin or unbreakable skin. That is why he reached in through the mouth. This could then also explain why Claire could not stab Sylar. However, I guess it is all a moot point if the scenes are NOT canon. The ODI 01:52, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
        • Until it airs, it's a spoiler. You asked about scenes in the promos, and I was addressing the promos. --Bob (talk) 02:02, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
          • I agree with something being a spoiler until it airs. I never asked a question about the promos, but was making an observation that some of the earlier promos showed the villains with the unaired/deleted Season 2 episodes. Then, we have the above mentioned deleted scenes of Sylar, that if aired would explain his abilities in the premiere. So I was just wondering about the writers/producers thought process. That's all. Usually the rule of thumb is, a deleted scene or anything that does not air on the network is not canon and a potential spoiler. However, in this case because of the strike things changed for Season 2 leaving us with those deleted scenes. I guess when I watched the premiere I assumed Sylar met Claude and got his ability to be invisible. Of course we won't know until they show us how, but when I saw those deleted scenes, I was like OH, that is what they planned. :) The ODI 06:42, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

"Good Look at villain portraying Peter"?

9/11 - Includes a few new scenes with a good look at the villain who claims to be Peter using his powers

When watching the video linked in that spoiler, all I see is a bald man smiling with blue flames, while looking at Peter.

From the Episode 3.02 description, we learn of the actors starring in that episode.

David H. Lawrence XVII

Blake Shields

The first actor seems to resemble extremely well, the "I'm Peter Petrelli!" guy in Level 5, while Blake Shields is literally confirmed to be the pyro-guy.

So, unless there's a part of the video I missed where we see David H. Lawrence XVII, then I think the spoiler is wrongly "confirming" a good look at the villain pretending to be Peter, when it is clearly another villain using fire.

Is there something I'm missing? --IDannPK 21:47, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

• • I see the same bald man and it looks like the exact same Villain in Level 5 and the same one claiming to be Peter. However, if they are two different actors then maybe I am mistaken. My post was based on what seems to be exactly the same two characters and the fact that they use blue flames also made me feel that way. The ODI 02:01, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I mean I can see how they might look similar from the lack of clear shots of either actors in previews, but I mean, if you look up both of those actors I put in bold up there, the first seems very much like "I'm Peter Petrelli!" and the second one looks exactly like the fire guy, not to mention Blake Shields has confirmed that he plays a pyro character.

• • • Also; here's a link to the video where we can best see Mr. "I'm Peter Petrelli!".

http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2008/09/new-season-3-bbc-promo.html --IDannPK 17:14, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

USA Today spoilers

• I was just wondering if anyone has seen this. It gives details into the new Villians and their abilities. [2]--The Empath 00:21, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
  • Dead link: "Requested photo not found". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:01, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Link to Villains powers was posted on main Season 3 spoilers page.
      • That's werid. I got the link from 9th Wonders and it works over there. Anyways, the link ODI posted has exactly whats on that page.--The Empath 11:22, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Samedi

Is it possible that it says "Samedi is equal to god" or "Samedi is divine"? --Sylar149 12:21, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Deleting Spoilers

• I got a question.... If a spoiler has happened, do we delete it off the spoilers page? Or does it stay there? HiroMystery 03:13, 22 September 2008 (EDT)