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"Oil secretion" describes Howie's ability.

Tar?

Tar is actually very sticky, so I don't think this is an appropriate name. Maybe oil slick emission. --Watchmaker 11:38, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

  • I would say oil emission, considering his nickname was said to be "slick", it would make sense it was oil, as in an oil slick. --Ross R. Smith 12:16, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
    • My first thought was oil, but not tar. Tar is heavy + sticky --IronyUTC CH 12:30, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
      • Definitely agree personally, but it could be any black liquid.--Riddler 12:44, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I think we should ask RGS to see if he can e-mail to see what it was wrote in as. --IronyUTC CH 12:45, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I agree Gabriel Bishop 12:50, 17 March 2009 (EDT) Gabriel Bishop
        • Maybe we should just change it anyway, we know tar wouldn't have the effects demonstrated, so it is more likely to be oil.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 16:42, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Talk 20:47, 17 March 2009 (GMT)

            • So should we just go ahead?--Steely McBeam - (talk) 16:49, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
              • Think we should wait till tomorrow to see if anyone has any objections. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 20:52, 17 March 2009 (GMT)

            • Yeah, I can't see any problems apart from the fact that is completely and utterly speculative to call it oil. But is likey to be the best we have so I can't see why not. --IronyUTC CH 16:54, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
              • It is technically speculative to call it tar aswell. Actually to call it anything is speculative lol. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 20:55, 17 March 2009 (GMT)

                • The only thing that isn't speculative is "Slippery Black Liquid Emission". That said oil sounds right. --Peter 17:29, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                  • I don't know much about the substance, but I think "secretion" would be a more accurate term than "emission". Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:01, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                    • I actually I think your right, I don't think he can control it so secretion seems more likely, Oil secretion sounds OK, what about Oil slick secretion? --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 22:08, 17 March 2009 (GMT)

  • I think calling the substance "tar" is speculative and needs to be changed right away. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:19, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
    • If we can't call it anything this will become a Soandso's ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:22, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
      • No. I would think Oil or Tar emission, or even the realms of be Oil mimicry, but god forbid if thats SPECULATION --Lolwut 18:27, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
        • God doesn't forbid speculation, but our naming conventions do. :) If we don't know what it is, we can't assume it's any particular substance. I don't want to see this end up as "Howie's ability", but it won't be called "tar emission" since we don't know whether or not it's tar. I doubt it is, but my doubts are neither here nor there. They don't flow very well, but "slippery liquid secretion" or "slippery liquid emission" both work fine. I prefer "slippery liquid secretion", personally, but I won't stand in the way of either one. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Talk 22:32, 17 March 2009 (GMT)

            • hmm... i would say crude oil secretion, i mean the writers have given quite a few hints. bit off topic but i swear emission is specifically to do with gases (diffusion and all jazz) --Lolwut 18:37, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
              • Oil Secretion is perfect. Adding "slick" or "crude" to it makes it too wordy. --Peter 19:11, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                • Nope, that name won't fly. We don't know it's oil. I'll put out a couple emails... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:16, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                  • Personally, I can't think of any other black, slippery liquids but if the writers or artist say different.... --Peter 19:21, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                    • Tar, oil, molasses, alien goo, insect blood, and unidentified substances all come to mind. In the end, even if something seems obvious, if it's not confirmed, we shouldn't assume. I'm anxious to hear back from Tim and Micah, too. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
                      • "Tar" doesn't really fit. "Oil" does, but if we can't confirm that, we could call it "Slick black liquid secretion". That would be better than "Howie's ability".--Cro Magnon 20:04, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Jim Martin: One slick man!

Got an email from Jim Martin: "It was intended to be crude oil--like an unrefined type of slick viscous lubricant that may (though it remains to be seen) serve as an alternate energy source--who knows, maybe Howie could power a fleet of cars with his power... but we'll see..." Thanks Jim! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:08, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

  • So it's oil. All that's left now is to decide whether or not to name it "secretion" or "emission".--Peter 20:15, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Doesn't matter to me. It's emission right now, and I don't see a problem with it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:19, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I'm not a fan of emission, it implies that it's either some sort of signal\energy, or something that is airborne. I still think secretion is better, when we see his hand, it's as if he was sweating it, you don't emit sweat. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:31, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
        • Oil secretion would match Acid secretion, which was named explicitly by the Company. That gives it my vote. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 21:07, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
          • I prefer "secretion", but I can live with either one.--Cro Magnon 22:10, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
            • If it matters at all at this point, I support oil secretion as well. --Whizzles 22:19, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Sorry to bring this up, but he said Crude Oil lads. --Lolwut 19:13, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Talk 18:10, 22 March 2009 (GMT)

I kinda wish the oil was tar, not oil, so that I could make a joke about beating the tar out of the guy. Sigh...--ERROR 19:38, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

  • Yeah, that would have been a pretty slick joke--but certainly not a crude one! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:30, 6 June 2009 (EDT)