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Talk:Size alteration

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Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources
 Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine size alteration's name.
Source/Explanation
Size alteration is explicitly named in Eric Lee Harrison's Heroes: Survival profile.


Name

Someone with knowledge on the iStory could please fill the template in? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:19, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

Confirmed/Unconfirmed

Just to double check confirmed means it been demonstrated (read or seen) and unconfirmed means not demonstrated even if someone is listed by the company as to having it, correct?--OutbackZack 11:05, 2 December 2009 (EST)

  • Exactly.--Referos 11:08, 2 December 2009 (EST)
    • Could we possibly open the discussion to rename these terms to something like "Demonstrated" and "Not demonstrated"? If so, where would I do that at? I ask, because "Unconfirmed" makes it seem like they don't have the ability even though there are records from the company saying they do. I would think it would confuse anyone who visits the site. --OutbackZack 11:16, 2 December 2009 (EST)
      • Virtually all of the "unconfirmed" abilities are ones that never appear in the show or GNs, but things from the original assignment tracker map, Chandra's journal, or random promotional lists. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 13:01, 2 December 2009 (EST)

Potential merge

Sorry to bring up an old argument, but the discussion about whether or not this ability is the same as mass manipulation was never resolved. Reading through the GNs, the wiki pages and the talk pages, I can find no difference between the two powers at all. The only reason that the two pages are separate that I can see is because the power has two different names ("mass manipulation" and "size alteration"). The Company has been known to give abilities names that differ from their "real" names (for example, Chris Coolidge's enhanced synesthesia is referred to as "empathic manipulation" in his assignment tracker profile), so the pages shouldn't really be separate for that reason, I think. Another reason it was decided to keep them separate at the time was to wait and see if either Sylvia or ELH were to demonstrate their powers again in a future iStory or GN, but seeing as five years have passed without another instalment of either, I don't see the Heroes Reborn writers going back to those storylines now. -Kon (talk) 04:12, 30 August 2015 (EDT)

  • I would be fine combining the two abilities, as long as the power page is called "mass manipulation" (since the graphic novels are higher in the canon hierarchy than Heroes: Survival), and that everything about Eric Lee Harrison remains calling his ability "size alteration". Anybody opposed? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2015 (EDT)
    • Sounds good to me. Anyone else want to weigh in? -Kon (talk) 00:59, 11 September 2015 (EDT)
      • As far as I can tell "mass manipulation" covers everything "size alteration" does, while the opposite might not be true. Merging is acceptable. -Lөvөl 02:46, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
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