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  • I'm not sure about adding the powers and the graphic novels, since the series is about the organization. Maybe we need to rename the series bar to be something less specific?--Hardvice (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2006 (EST)
  • Yeah, they definitely don't seem to belong. (Admin 14:42, 12 December 2006 (EST))
    • Also, anything that lets us avoid more than one series bar per article is a good move in my book. It always looks kind of sloppy.--Hardvice (talk) 14:45, 12 December 2006 (EST)
      • Good point. Would you like me to remove the added links, or should we brainstorm a new name? (I say removing the links is the easiest option.) I do believe, however, that those 3 articles should somehow be pointed out as being used by HRG's group. We don't have an article (nor should we, necessarily). Any suggestions? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:23, 12 December 2006 (EST)

Name of Organization

We are bound to have to call this organization something. HRG is not really relevant anymore, and we now know it's not "Mr. Bennet's Organization". I would nominate it to be renamed "Mr. Bennet's Boss's Organization", but I think some people would actually take me seriously. I say "Agency Without Initials" is the best name for it, since that's actually how it was referenced in the show. Thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:58, 18 December 2006 (EST)

I'm ok with naming it the "Agency Without Initials", as long as we can call it the AWI... [1] --Orne 16:11, 18 December 2006 (EST)
What Orne said. --Hardvice (talk) 16:22, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Text for Category Page

Help! I embedded List of articles related to the Agency Without Initials on the Category:The Company page, but I think it looks really silly to have the series bar say "AWI is part of a series of articles related to the Agency Without Initals:" (especially since the category page is not an article). What I would like is for it to say "The following articles are related to the Agency Without Initals:", but I can't figure out the #ifeq parser function. As you can tell from the history, I goofed. I tried to add a whole other line, but that didn't work either. (A few smart people are snickering at me right now, I just know it!) Could somebody please help? Thanks! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2007 (EST)

I took care of the problem by <noinclude>ing the series bar. Come to think of it, it doesn't belong on the category page. But I'd still like to know (if somebody's willing to teach) how to do a parser function for more than one variable (ie, ifeq List of... and ifeq Category...) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2007 (EST)
  • Don't worry about it, it's actually already fixed. What I did was add another #ifeq: that checks if the pagename equals AWI. The correct syntax (for non-programmers) is:
{{#ifeq: Text | CompareAgainstText | ResultIfMatches | ResultIfDifferent }}
What you want to do is comapre the {{PAGENAME}} Wiki special variable against a known piece of text (in this case "AWI"). If they match, then the function outputs the text that is in "ResultIfMatches" field, which you wanted to be the text "The following articles are". But if it's not, then it should return "XXXX is part of a series of articles". The text that follows in both instances are the same: "related to the ..." Where it gets cool is you can put #ifeq statements inside of one another (because remember, it's still checking if the article is named "List of articles..." too) and it can return many different results. Check my user page on how to find the documentation on using the ParserFunctions and the complete list of Wiki built-in Variables (aka Magic Words). --Orne 20:03, 12 January 2007 (EST)
    • Okay, great, thank you! Yes, I've been using the links on your user page to figure some stuff out. It's all still a bit hazy in my mind (I need practice). I was getting tripped up with putting the #ifeq statements inside each other. Trippy.

      I just went back and included the series bar on the category page. It's a bit superfluous, but there's no harm. S&G, S&G. (Thanks for your help!)- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:39, 12 January 2007 (EST)

Agent Isaac

I'm not sure we should jump to the conclusion that Isaac is working for the AWI quite yet. He is definitely working with Mr. Bennet to find Peter, but I'm not sure that he's really an agent...yet. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:51, 8 February 2007 (EST)

  • Well, through Mr. Bennet, he clearly has a strong connection to the AWI. I used "agent" in a rather generic sense to denote that connection, and I think that his current association qualifies him for inclusion in the template. --Ted C 15:54, 8 February 2007 (EST)

The new look

... is different. I think I like the old series bar better. Something about the picture was really nice. If we want to separate the bar into people, places, and items, we could probably follow suit and format it similar to Template:Linderman. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:21, 10 March 2007 (EST)

  • It's also missing rounded edges on the bottom.--Hardvice (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2007 (EST)
    • Hmm, it looks like it's being changed as I'm commenting, so I'll wait a little while until I note the odd pipes and bold marks. :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:37, 10 March 2007 (EST)
      • I wanted the best of both worlds, but I ended up just making it more like template:jessica's victims. ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 01:45, 10 March 2007 (EST)
        • Right, I think it's fine to split it a bit. However, I have some concerns. The pipes are very odd-looking, and non-standard. I think middots are fine. Also, it's getting pretty tall. I'll fix that by shortening Primatech and Pharmatech. Finally, the other series bars don't have bolded subheadings. I'll take care of it now. Thanks for splitting it, though -- that's a great idea! — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:00, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Bloated

Holy big series bar, Batman! Rrgh. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:23, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Dead people and former employees

  • Should we ital deceased members on this template (there seems to be quite a few) or just make a small section with "Former Employees" with the dead folks. We don't really know if Isaac was necessarily paid by the Company, but he definitely was in cahoots with them.--Bob 16:44, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

New Image

Since HRG isn't with the company anymore, I think we might want to change the image... but to what? -- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 01:09, 26 September 2007 (EDT)

Growth

As this template grows, I wouldn't mind doing three separate series bars, one for each section that already exists. Another option is to change the whole thing into a navbar like we have on much of the rest of the site. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:55, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

  • My only conern with making it a navbar is that every single article on here already has a navbar, and multiple navbars look kind of icky.--Hardvice (talk) 22:44, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
    • That's a good point. What do you think of splitting this into three? It's just getting a bit tall for my taste. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Kill It

OK, this is now officially the next template on my series bar hit list. It's bloated, incomplete, and redundant with Category:The Company (or at least should be), and every page it appears on already has a navbar. Would it be a terrible loss if we axed it?--Hardvice (talk) 02:00, 27 November 2007 (EST)

  • Actually, it looks like this template is adding the category. We could either change this template so it just adds the category, we could manually change {{HRG}} to [[Category:The Company]], or we could have the bot do it (though it would need multiple passes since the articles are in several categories.)--Hardvice (talk) 14:08, 27 November 2007 (EST)
  • I agree that this is getting pretty big, and it doesn't contain all elements related to it, such as Angela and Arthur or the founders. I'm for having this be changed somehow to the category, though I think the template could definately be shortened to have the relevant info in the template. For example, if it's a character, then have the template display the characters associated with the Company. If it's a location, then all the related locations, etc. That would reduce the size and make it more relevant.--Bob (talk) 09:47, 3 January 2008 (EST)
    • Agree. It doesn't look like the Company is going anywhere anytime soon. In fact, it looks like the Company's role on Heroes is getting bigger and bigger as time passes. I don't want to see the day when this template is taller than it is wide. I say we follow Noah's example and do everything we can to destroy it. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:47, 3 January 2008 (EST)
      • I changed it so it just adds the category (for now). We can have the 'bot change all references to the template to [[Category:The Company]] (or do it by hand) and then axe it.--Hardvice (talk) 15:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)
        • Articles with {{HRG}} are already manually in the "The Company" category, right? So I could just strip the template from those articles rather than changing it to "The Company?" That's the easiest solution, anything else would take a little more work. (Admin 15:50, 3 January 2008 (EST))
          • Some may be manual, but this template was adding the cat already. Of the first six articles using this template, four are getting the cat from the template and two have the cat explicitly listed. We're probably better off changing {{HRG}} to [[Category:The Company]] if we use the bot.--Hardvice (talk) 19:55, 3 January 2008 (EST)
            • Ok, I've manually removed all instances of inclusion or links to this template. I think it's safe to delete it now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)