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Peter's amnesia

"Removed the peter theory - It hasn't been stated in the show he has amnesia (we only know through spoilers)"

Well, I haven't read the spoilers (Thanks alot for that), but it seems vaguely obvious at the end of the episode that he has amnesia, since he doesn't know who he is.--Tim Thomason 18:55, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Sorry for pointing out the spoilers, but wether it's obvious or not, all he said was "I don't know." Being knocked out, waking up somewhere unknown, and having someone you don't know asking you a question wouldn't classify as amnesia. Amnesia is forgetting something you've known completely. --Riddler 18:59, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
Yeah, but being asked who you are, and not knowing the answer, is a standard television staple for amnesia. The intention of the scene is to show that Peter is in a strange place and doesn't know who he is. I agree it may be slightly speculative, but this is a theory page and all. Kind of like wondering if Kaito is dead or just severely, badly, injured (don't spoil me on that one if I'm wrong).--Tim Thomason 19:08, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
Well, saying "Peters amnesia" IS speculative. The right way to use it would be "Peter has amnesia" as the theory itself, then build off of that.--Riddler 19:42, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Can we remove the "Elle" theory?

It's about spoilers. x.x--Riddler 18:33, 8 October 2007 (EDT)

  • Absolutely. Theory pages can definitely use outside sources, but they are not spoiler pages. Since Elle does not yet exist in the world of Heroes, there should be no mention of her on the page, or on any page which is not marked with a spoiler warning. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:37, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Readded it, since Elle has made her shocking debut. </badpun> Thrashmeister 22:55, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Too many theories...

Can something be done to clean up this theory page? I mean, yeah, Peter's a major character, and his power leaves a lot of possibilities. But the number and length of theories here is just crazy... By the time I get to the bottom of the page, I've forgotten all the stuff up top.

I've been trying to clean up some stuff here, merging duplicate theories and such. But it hasn't made much of a dent. Would people be okay removing some of the older, less current theories? Like the one about density manipulation, or whether he absorbed Eden's ability, or maybe the one about Ricky and the gang? I know they haven't been proven/disproven, but a lot of them seem like they never will be, and it takes way too long to find theories actually about recent events with the page as clogged as it is. ---Shade 14:46, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

Can I move the recent theories from the top of the page to the bottom, so the newer ones will be together? It would help a lot if everyone would follow a standard for adding them, so a person could just go to the bottom (or top) to see the new stuff. Lindsaynickel 00:44, 18 November 2008 (EST)

Should we remove any theories involving Empathic Mimicry?

Seeing as Peter's ability has changed, aren't these theories now invalidated?--Steelymcbeam 09:31, 18 February 2009 (EST)

I agree with this guy up here, archive it and delete it all. Peter has a new power now, or, if it's somehow the old one, let there be room for speculation and not random guessing. -+- Discipol

Maybe not all, I mean, theories are not only about things that will happen, it's also about things that already happened, if it's a theory about something in the time Peter had his old ability, I don't see a problem. Theories concerning both abilities also seem valid for me, but I can't say much, since I think the wiki should just erase all theories. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:45, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Don't we usually have separate theory pages for abilities? - Josh (talk/contribs) 12:55, 18 February 2009 (EST)

  • It's debateable that he's got a FORM of his past ability... but it's certainly not the same. All direct theories should be removed or archived. Possibly archived.--anguard 12:58, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Killing a theory

"Peter Petrelli's original power was ability replication, and he replicated Sylar's empathic mimicry in "Homecoming"."

I see that the theory was changed to accomodate, new aspects, but doesn't Peter manifesting Hiro's ability when he and Claude were attacked kills it? I mean, if Peter had replicated Hiro's ability, he would have lost it the moment he mimicked someone else, even if he had acquired Sylar's alledged empathic mimicry, since he'd no longer have the ability in his DNA. If his current ability allows him to retain more than one ability though, I can see this working. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:25, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

But Peter didn't "get multiples" from Sylar, because he had empathy before that . . . so he could with his Ability replication, but now he's lost his empathy . . . since he can only use one, when he used to have five: Empathic mimicry, Precognitive dreaming, Flight, Precognition and Space-time manipulation . . . -- Mike the Man-child!

Mike, did you really read this? Time travel has nothing to do with this, it has to do with Noah Gray and Noah Bennet being the same people. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:54, 22 November 2009 (EST)

    • Yeah, I did read and know that . . . it was about the other theory, but I responded to the discussion . . . and Peter did replicate five powers, before mimicking abilities with Sylar's Empathic mimicry . . . so when Arthur stole his powers, the formula only gave him Ability replication . . . because it's actually his original ability, but now he's lost his empathy . . . -— Mike the Man-child!
      • Peter had many more than five abilities when Arthur stripped him of his abilities. The five power limit comes from a fan derived form of the ability, even if that form was chosen to appear in the series, it doesn't mean that it works like that for any other character, other than Draph himself. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:10, 22 November 2009 (EST)
        • It's not that difficult to understand, if Peter's original power was Ability replication . . . and he still had his empathy, then he could replicate five powers: Empathic mimicry, Precognitive dreaming, Flight, Precognition and Space-time manipulation . . . so when he replicated Sylar's Emmi, he started mimicking abilities after that: Intuitive aptitude (unlocked in I Am Become Death) and Telekinesis from Sylar (empathized in Homecoming), Rapid cell regeneration, Telepathy, Invisibility, Induced radioactivity, Enhanced strength, Phasing, Electric manipulation, Pyrokinesis and Super speed . . . -— Mike the Man-child!
  • Not sure how much this contributes, but Peter originally having Ability replication and replicating empathic mimicry would just be a horrible, horrible plot twist. It would destroy his original portrayal as an emotionally conscious person. I sincerely doubt the writers would take this plan of action.--PJDEP 00:00, 24 November 2009 (EST)
    • But then it would be ironic, how Gabriel's actually the empathic one (Emmi) . . . who lost his empathy for intuition (Inapt), while Peter was the intuitive one (Ability replication) . . . who lost his intuition for empathy (Emmi), and then they both found it . . . after losing (Arthur's theft for Peter and the Shanti virus for Sylar) and rediscovering their powers (Arthur's gift for Gabriel and the Formula for Peter), so it's now difficult for them (Sylar's concentration for empathy and Peter's lack there of empathy) . . . -— Mike the Man-child!
      • Ability replication is hardly intuitive. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:07, 24 November 2009 (EST)
        • Also, the writers don't want to make anything overly-complicated on purpose. Logically, the theory could be possible but it isn't good writing. Also, I seem to recall reading this but I might just be paraphrasing. If I'm correct, the writers said that Peter lost his ability to connect with people, and therefore did not manifest EM, but AR. This seems to imply that AR is not the ability he had before his powers were stolen.--PJDEP 15:34, 24 November 2009 (EST)
          • Regardless, Mohinder said that the power granted by the formula is specific to the DNA of the injected host. So unless not connecting people can alter his genetic code for EM into AR, it doesn't make sense that he wouldn't get his original ability back, unless Arthur damaged it when he removed it. -Barbedknives (talk)15:50, 24 November 2009 (EST)
            • Arthur damaging the DNA is the most logical theory for me. Arthur said that he takes abilities and leaves nothing behind. Considering that Arthur never came across with someone who can turn things on and off, that would make sense to him. I believe that A&D worked in Hiro's DNA, there are restriction sections in the DNA, he most likely turned those off, turning the ability back on. My take is that when Arthur shut Peter's ability, he damaged the DNA, so when the formula was injected, it didn't bring the same ability back because the genes were different, that is, if AR isn't the same as EM. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:06, 24 November 2009 (EST)
              • Even if they (Peter and Sylar) have those abilities (Empathic mimicry and Intuitive aptitude), empathic Inapt should be called Empathic intuition . . . and intuitive Emmi should be Intuitive empathy, but if Emmi doesn't even exist . . . then Peter should have Ability replication, and he just lost his empathy . . . so he can only replicate one, when empathy let them acquire more . . . -— Mike the Man-child!
                • I'm not trying to be rude, but if you want your theories to seem valid you may want to attempt to word them better, it's difficult to understand what you're trying to say. Either way, the names of Sylar and Peter's powers are based off of canon and near-canon sources. They can't be renamed based on what is, in all honestly, far-fetched speculation.--PJDEP 16:13, 27 November 2009 (EST)
                  • Yes, I did read and know that . . . it wasn't meant to be evidence, but I responded to the discussion . . . of course they shouldn't be renamed, Emmi may not even exist though . . . -— Mike the Man-child!

Peter is female

The theory is just plain silly, and it has been confirmed to be a prop mistake, no point in keeping it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 21:04, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

  • Mr. Muggles? Waffles?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:06, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
    • Until Peter pulls down his pants and gives us a canon source that he is in fact male, the theory is logical and should stay.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 07:08, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
      • I've tried to get those two pages deleted since I first became a member. Also, since I became a member, I managed to purge waffle and Mr. Muggles theories from every other theory page. It's sort of an unofficial agreement, Mr. Muggles and Waffles are the only places where silly/ridiculous/ludicrous theories are allowed. Plus, Peter has had sex with other female characters. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:33, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
        • Not on camera. It's speculation to say he did....I'm just kidding. This was a joke from the start.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 18:05, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
  • don't get it where does this theory comes from? -- (WaterRatj) 18:17, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
    • Peter's passport, in early season two, had his gender noted as female. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:25, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
      • haha just watched it :p Funny, but no reason enough for theory, thought it was funny. A joke of one of the prop artists :D -- (WaterRatj) 20:12, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
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