Talk:Ability replication

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New article

This is currently the only leads on his new ability, please keep it open for discussion - Arkillion. ( I made the article, so contact me for any serious changes).

Contradiction

Wouldn't this contradict a comment that Mohinder stated saying that a persons ability is influenced by the DNA in his/her body? If this is true Peter should have regained Empathic Mimicry minus the abilities he has already mimicked.- Yippee ki ya

The formula was synthetic and as far as we know synthetic formulas aren't EXACTLY similar to an original power, Mohinder's power made him mutate and grow scales and now that he has the real formula inside him he has just super strength and endurance as far as we know. Currently the speculation is that Peter's power is empathic mimicry but temporary and only physically and the shunt may of caused this, who knows. - Arkillion

Couldn't peter be using a variation of power absorption (unknown source) through Empathic mimicry? Because it seems that when a power is mimicked through empathy it needs refining I.E. Elle guiding Sylar, Claude teaching Peter. And when a power is mimicked through Power Absorption it can be used to its full potential nearly instantly I.E. When Arthur used Electrical Manipulation straight after he had taken Peters ability's.- Yippee ki ya

I think that Yippee has a valid theory going. It could quite possibly be that this is simply a new aspect to Peter's ability. Numerous characters from the show have started with one simple ability that has several presentations. An example being Matt's ability to read minds and now put thoughts into peoples heads. Claire's ability to heal as well as her blood being a cure all. I think the name should remain empathic mimicry (NOT Peter's Ability) GraceRunner4000

I'm sorry Grace but that kind of makes no sense to be honest... So his power allows him to mimic abilities from those in proximity by thinking of them and mimicking what he saw them do, and now it's evolved as a presentation so that he can take powers from physically touching someone?

Long Range - > Short Range Mentally -> Physically

I don't think that qualifies as being better.. I suppose a Long Range Empathic Mimicry with instant use/experience of the power can be done.

My personal theory is that not only can he mimic powers by touch but he can give them via empathy and that's how Hiro may get a new power >_> by supercharging with Ando or giving him an ability - Arkillion

I don't think we should list this Peter's ability. There's no other example of someone changing core abilities, saying it's Peter's ability states that he no longer has empathic mimicry, which may or may not be true, saying he got those new abilities through unknown means is 100% correct and doesn't invalidate anything we already know about his ability history, we can't change anything if it invalidates something we already know. Right now, it's nothing but speculative that he has a different ability, as I said already, the "through unknown means" explains it perfectly and we don't risk listing something wrong. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:43, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Still Empathic Mimicry?

I don't think this is a new power altogether guys. I mean, it isn't through only physical contact. He flew with Nathan's power without touch between the two. I think the "touching glow thingy" is just the visual artists finally showing what empathic mimicry "looks like". I believe, in almost every aspect, it is still empathic mimicry.--(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 15:47, 4 February 2009 (EST)

• I have to agree, Peter's and Sylar's powers have practicly no limits and there for the capacity to alter or expaind their powers is always present. Peter was under the influense of drugs, he wouldn't have fully accepted Mohinder's gift in the taxi, otherwise it would have needed to be explained to him. this 'new' power kis just another way to use his initial ability. something like this was seen when Sylar took Elle's power with out killing.Halfbreed1426 21:06, 4 February 2009
  • While I am partially prone to say this too, anything we say on the matter that has not been revealed in an episode/GN/Interview is speculation, so the page stays. Halfbreed, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (--~~~~ ). -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-
    • Actually, Peter did touch Nathan before he flew. In Dual, Peter injected himself with the formula, ran and grabbed Nathan, then flew out of Pinehearst. Heroes has always used effects that are unique to certain powers (Matt's camera jumps, Nathan's flying "swoosh", VFX for Hiro's ability). This is a new one that we haven't really seen before. More importantly, Peter has always been able to hold on to more than one power. Now, he doesn't seem to be able to--he didn't have any more strength when he got Tracy's freezing power, and he was afraid of being sucked out of the plane, despite having previously been able to fly. I also know that the producers have always been interested in grounding Peter, seeing as he's been deemed as being "too powerful"--this is a perfect way to do it. Of course, I could be wrong, and we'll hopefully learn more next week...but I think for now we're safe in not calling it empathic mimicry. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2009 (EST)
      • I did receive confirmation of some sort that the observations we made were intentional and aspects of this new ability. This confirmation included that as of this afternoon the writers didn't have a specific name for his new ability yet. (Admin 17:18, 4 February 2009 (EST))
        • Thanks, Admin. That's good to know. It's encouraging to know that we're on the right track. I'm also fine with no new name. (I've never been under the assumption that every ability needs a name.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2009 (EST)

• I think it might be (Just a Random theroy, dont wanna start new page incase it gets delted in a week or so),But it could be power transfer.--Drwho113

Seriously....is this article a joke?

I mean I would understand if this was something unique that doesn't have any similarity to any other ability, but come on. This looks exactly like Arthur's ability 100%. This new one is just a waste of space. Horrorman 17:29, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Not really. It seems to be the common thinking that with this ability, Peter can only hold onto one ability at a time. This was supported in the show, when Peter got his ass handed to him after taking Tracy's ability, and when he couldn't just fly back into the plane when he was about to fall out. It's definitely different. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:32, 4 February 2009 (EST)

And as Admin stated above, these observations were intentional. It's very similar to power absorption, but it's not power absorption. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)

That, and when Arthur would take an ability, the victim would lose it. We haven't that with Peter taking abilities yet. Less importantly, but still significantly, the visual effects are different for the two powers. When Arthur would steal an ability, whisps would flow from the victim to Arthur--almost as though it was the person's "spirit" or a figment of that person. Those whisps were often external. With Peter, the visual flow never left the hands; the effect was somewhat different. Additionally, Admin said he received confirmation that this is a new power (see here). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:41, 4 February 2009 (EST)

When Arthur touched someone and stole their power you could usually see an act of pain upon the person aswell as part of their sort of "spirit" leaving them such as with Maya. Of course Peter touched by Tracy and Mohinder and you only saw light illuminating their hands this was probably done to show something happened like with Matt's telepathy. - Arkillion

What this looks like is a sort of "middle-ground" between the two. Perhaps this is Peter's original power, but because it was returned synthetically, it is slightly less powerful than before. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:11, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Interesting Theory but it still dulls it down to a simple fact that Peter thought of Mohinder and touched him for his power, showing us that he PROBABLY knew his power but chose not to use it, however when he touched Tracy he didn't even think of her he just had her power so I'm guessing this is Empathic mimicry but physically with a limitation - Arkillion.

One ability at a time

Peter gained Mohinder's strength and fought a guard. Then he gained Tracy's freezing ability--but he didn't seem to have any strength when fighting the guard again. Earlier, he was able to fly, but then was visible worried about being thrown into the sky. I believe these two events are pretty strong evidence that he can only hold on to one ability at a time. Additionally, Admin received some confirmation that the observations are aspects of this Peter's new ability (see here). I assume that part of these observations include only being able to hold on to one ability at a time. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)