Talk:Deveaux Society

Sources

Does anyone have sources for this entry? Where did the name "Deveaux Society" come from? Do we have any information on who were members? It looks like there is a fan site theory here on this page and that is it, and it sounds like we have 2 hypothetical members (Simone and Charles) and that is all. Tsarin 15:56, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

• Read the Notes section. Oliver Grigsby, a Heroes staffer, mentioned that the reason Simone's name was changed from "Deveraux" to "Deveaux" was so they could have the "Deveaux Society" (presumably, either the name is somehow significant, or they couldn't get legal clearance for "Deveraux Society"). That, and one interview with Tawny Cypress, and one of CBR's Behind the Eclipse interviews with writers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite are the only times it's been mentioned. So it's really three mentions by Heroes insiders, which makes it just a spoiler that may or may not ever come to fruition.--Hardvice (talk) 18:14, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

Society's Purpose

I'm wondering if The Deveaux Society is like an Order of the Phoenix from the Harry Potter series since it appears that Claude has known about other Heroes before. Bkdelong 13:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)

• Personally, I think the Deveaux Society, if anything comes of it, will be like (or connected to) the Linderman Group. I think Charles and Linderman were closely connected, either in purpose or by relationship. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:27, 12 February 2007 (EST)
  • I read that quite literally, and have now discovered my Heroes 'ship: Charles/Linderman. Chinderman, for short.--Hardvice (talk) 13:40, 12 February 2007 (EST)
    • Any relation to Charles Lindbergh? Ooh, a missing baby episode is just what we need! — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:13, 12 February 2007 (EST)
  • True - it can't be entirely coincidental that Simone already seems to have a relationship with Linderman as well. speaking of which, who "publishes" Issac's comic book? Bkdelong 14:03, 12 February 2007 (EST)
    • Isaac publishes 9th Wonders! himself. (See the back page of the comic.) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:13, 12 February 2007 (EST)
      • Uncle Burk's Fine Comics ... probably named after his good ol' Uncle Burk Linderman.--Hardvice (talk) 14:13, 12 February 2007 (EST)
        • Actually, we're both correct: he publishes the comics himself under his old Uncle Burk's name, according the back page. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2007 (EST)
        • I could have sworn Simone was bitching at him that the comic book was late to the publishers in one episode.

No more Deveaux's left in the Society?

• So, what do we want to do with this page, now that the last surviving Deveaux (Simone) was just killed off before anything about the Deveaux Society was introduced? Unless something happens in the next two episodes, this thing's not very canon. --Orne 09:39, 23 February 2007 (EST)
  • Well, it kind of fits in the same category as the Engineer, right? It's a scrapped part of production. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:47, 23 February 2007 (EST)
    • It isn't proven that she is dead yet, either. If it had been, her article here would call her deceased and so forth. Plus numerous places say "two more appearances" so perhaps one has to do with the Deveaux Society and one has to do with Peter's Visions? -Zeckalpha 19:56, 24 February 2007 (EST)

"Deveaux"

So am I correct in thinking that this is pronounced "Dev oh?" That's only a long "e" from "Devo," which is short for "Devolution." It may be an Easter Egg  ;) --ChickenArise 16:18, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

• That's correct. "Deveaux" is pronounced as "Dev oh". Peter gave us the pronunciation of his name when he told Nathan "Charles Deveaux died this morning." in Nothing to Hide.--Ice Vision 16:44, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Lead Image

• We have no idea whether Charles and/or Simone are involved in this so-far entirely hypothetical society. (In other words, Simone but not Charles could be a member, or Charles but not Simone could be a member, or both. Neither is confirmed.) This image is misleading.--Hardvice (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
  • So far it's a named group only by the writers and cast in interviews, and they've confirmed that Simone and Charles were re-surnamed so they could have the Deveaux society. That's the best information we have. Also, it's a dead group, but it's likely that it will be revived next season when we get a better look at the "generations" of the past.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Well, yes. It's confirmed that at least either Charles or Simone was a member leading to the rename, but not necessarily both (and thus neither one is individually confirmed to be a member).--Hardvice (talk) 16:34, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
    • And actually, considering the fact that the Society has still never been mentioned in the show, we don't really know that either Simone or Charles is necessarily a member or leader. For all we know, it's named for Simone's mother, or heretofore unmentioned brother, or third cousin, or whatever. All we know is that the desire to name the group "the Deveaux Society" prompted them to change Charles and Simone's surname from Deveraux to Deveaux. That doesn't necessarily mean that either is the Deveaux family member responsible for the Society. It's all very much unconfirmed--heck, even the group's existence is unconfirmed, hence the spoiler tag.--Hardvice (talk) 16:42, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Remove from Portal:Named Groups

Point taken, Hardvice. So I think we should we remove this article, then, from the list of named groups... especially since it's still a spoiler that the group ever existed. LOL. Any objection?--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:43, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

• I think it's OK to leave it. It's not really a "spoiler" in the sense that "Peter will kill Claire and dance in her entrails" is a spoiler; it's just based entirely on unaired info, but nothing's really spoiled. Either way, really.--Hardvice (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
  • It just looks out of place. I guess it's fine to stay since we're going to update it next season.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:13, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Frustration

Okay, so I'm really frustrated. There's a lot of whitespace between template:noimage and template:infobox group. I tried about everything I know to try: I took out all superfluous spacing in both templates, I cut out any spacing in this article, I tried adding a picture, taking away the spoiler, whatever. Nothing works. More frustratingly, this version looks better (not right, but better). When I tried to change it to a better version with identical code, it said I made a change to the leaders line. Huh? Doesn't look like it to me. Anyway, I'm frustrated. Can somebody see if they can fix the spacing issue? Thanks! — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:47, 20 May 2007 (EDT)