Talk:Ability immunity

Funny, I was just thinking about making a similar article. It was Eric Doyle's teasing question to Michael in Doyle, in combination with Joe and Aron's "rule of Ted" comment, that really made me think about the idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:46, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

• I think this shouldn't be an user subpage, instead it should go on the bottom line of the abilities navbar just like "ability extension" "ability heredity".

Acid secretion?

I think Acid secretion should go here, but I'm not 100% sure. Thoughts? --Aburu 00:25, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

• Yup!--SacValleyDweller (talk) 00:43, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

Can't find the wording

Enhanced hearing. Mohinder tortures Sylar with a tuning fork. Also, Disintegration touch might be applicable on the page, her hands are fine when she's done using her ability.--Riddler 15:17, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

• Empathic mimicry even, since he doesn't control what he absorbs, and Intuitive aptitude since it comes with an uncontrollable hunger? I may be reading into this a bit too much or wrong, though.--Riddler 15:18, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
  • No, I agree. All of them should be added. Therequiembellishere 15:33, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
  • I would definitely add the first two, and could go either way on Empathic mimicry or Intuitive aptitude (though I'd lean toward not adding them). Stevehim 15:41, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Ability immunity is not about the negative effects of powers...it's about whether or not the power can be used on the user. It's a subtle difference. With enhanced hearing, it would be included if we knew for certain that Dale or Sylar could, I don't know, hear their own heart, or not hear their blood rushing through their veins. Just because the sounds they hear bother them doesn't mean they're immune or not immune.

      With empathic mimicry, it would be included if Peter could somehow absorb his own power or not absorb his own power. Since that in and of itself is a null situation (he doesn't have another ability to absorb, or there's no way to check if he's absorbing his own power, or really it's just a silly thought process), then Peter's ability shouldn't be here. Maybe if he met another person with empathic mimicry there might be an argument, but even then it would be Peter using his power on somebody else. And since I'm talking hypothetically, I'll stop with that one.

      For intuitive aptitude, that should only be included if we had evidence that Sylar could or couldn't intuitively understand how his own brain works. We don't have that, so the power shouldn't be included.

      I have mixed feelings about disintegration touch. No, Felicia never seemed affected by her own power...but since we really don't know anything about her power other than the fact that her hand glows orange (and we assume it has something to do with disintegration--maybe it only disintegrates one's fingernails) it's hard to say that it affects Felicia or not. I'm not opposed to it on this page, but since we don't know anything about the power, it's probably best to leave it off.

      Sorry this is such a long (winded) post, but these 3 (or 4) powers really don't belong on this page. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:10, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

      • I'm not sure if this exactly pertains to the situation, but I recall that in BTE it was confirmed that when Peter met his future self he could only absorb empathic mimicry. I think this was an issue for Template:Peterexposed as well.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:00, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
        • Yeah, I don't really know if that applies or not. It's such a weird case and I can't really wrap my head around it. In either case, it's probably best to not put it on the page. I suppose a note at the bottom wouldn't hurt. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
        • I had initially assumed that it included the negative aspects of the power as well, but I think that was because it was fresh in my mind from discussing the Pyrokinesis-container thing. ;) If we're not including side effects though, then Ted's lack of illness, Meredith's ability to breathe without oxygen (even though I still maintain that never occurred), and posibly even Elle's problem with water (which sort of promotes a myth and doesn't really make sense anyway) could be called into question, since (like the tuning fork), they're either side effects of the power, or require an outside element for the negative effect to occur. Stevehim 00:42, 20 October 2008 (EDT)