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I tried to add a template of the abilities Arthur stolen but it also brings over the usage section from the Template and I can't figure out why, I did it exactly the same way it was done on Peter's article. Somebody could you fix it? --[[User:Snow Leapord|Snow Leapord]] 23:22, 20 October 2008 (EDT) |
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Finally... a hint on his power
- Bob says "With Claire's blood, Claire might become a major player. The next Linderman. The next Arthur Petrelli."
03:41, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- His power yes, as in power over the Company, not his special ability.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:56, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- That's what I was thinking, too.--Ice Vision 13:56, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- Me too. Bob says: "...you could be taking orders from her in a few years".--Hgjgkjgk 16:15, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- That's what I was thinking, too.--Ice Vision 13:56, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- It's a little weird that the Company is so obsessed with Claire's blood. I mean, until the end of Season One, they had Adam in custody. You'd think they'd have all magic blood they wanted.--14:00, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- I'm pretty sure that's why they kept him alive (even though there's no evidence of them using his blood). "With Claire's blood" could be taken both figuratively (evolved granddaughter of the last Arthur Petrelli, the 2 evolved parent thing) and literally (an untainted, non-maniacal evil person with healing blood, unlike the locked-up Adam). Bob expected that they would one day take in Claire for tests (as Thompson stated), eventually promote her to Agent status (like Elle was), and eventually make her way up past Claude and Haitian status to be a senior agent/leader (presumably replacing some of the old Company leaders).--Tim Thomason 18:30, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- Who needs Adam's blood when Linderman can heal anyone he wants? No extraction needed. --Aldrius 21:39, 4 January 2008 (EST)
- Linderman can't heal the dead. If Adam's blood has limitations, they would need Claire. Also, its always good to have a spare. And, experiments are nothing with out a few test subjects. Nonredhead 5 June 2008 (EST)
- Who needs Adam's blood when Linderman can heal anyone he wants? No extraction needed. --Aldrius 21:39, 4 January 2008 (EST)
- I'm pretty sure that's why they kept him alive (even though there's no evidence of them using his blood). "With Claire's blood" could be taken both figuratively (evolved granddaughter of the last Arthur Petrelli, the 2 evolved parent thing) and literally (an untainted, non-maniacal evil person with healing blood, unlike the locked-up Adam). Bob expected that they would one day take in Claire for tests (as Thompson stated), eventually promote her to Agent status (like Elle was), and eventually make her way up past Claude and Haitian status to be a senior agent/leader (presumably replacing some of the old Company leaders).--Tim Thomason 18:30, 11 December 2007 (EST)
- His power yes, as in power over the Company, not his special ability.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:56, 11 December 2007 (EST)
NBC Promo
A promo that aired during Life this past Friday: One man has pulled all the strings. He is the father of 3 heroes (showed pictures of Nathan, Sylar, & Peter in that order). The leader of the villians and Monday we finally meet him. That either conculusively proves Arthur is the father of all 3 or Angela had an affair or more than one affair. --Snow Leapord 11:26, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yep, that'll be enough to say that all 3 boys are Arthur's...once the episode airs. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:06, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
- This promo bothered me alot. They don't usually make promo's so spoilery.--Riddler 18:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
- Seriously... really didn't leave much to the imagination... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:43, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
- Also, I like how they listed Sylar as a hero. :O Foreshadowing? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 16:51, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
- I forgot about this promo. Technically, it's still a spoiler, and technically the world of Heroes has not yet revealed who Sylar's biological dad is...but I'm not going to argue this or make any changes one way or another. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:17, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- Also, I like how they listed Sylar as a hero. :O Foreshadowing? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 16:51, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
- Seriously... really didn't leave much to the imagination... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:43, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
- This promo bothered me alot. They don't usually make promo's so spoilery.--Riddler 18:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Occupation
As far as we know, he's not the head of Pinehearst, is he? --Aburu 21:25, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- He seems to be the highest shown so far, as Maury kisses his ass to no end.--Riddler 21:46, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- True, though that could just be his fear of someone so powerful. I was just trying to figure out if there's enough evidence to label him as the leader on the Pinehearst page --Aburu 21:47, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- It didn't look like Arthur had any power at all just lying on the bed though --Rayhond 22:17, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- Ah yes, but power isn't always limited to abilities. --Aburu 22:21, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- The only affiliation that we know Arthur has with Pinehearst is that he is using their machines to stay alive. We don't know anything of his leadership or even membership in the organization. Maury could just have respect for the guy (which why wouldn't he, they helped form the Company together 30 years ago) and it may have nothing at all to do with Pinehearst. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:27, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- I'm inclined to believe that Arthur, even in his current state, can mess Maury up real good and is a force to be reckoned with. I mean, that "you wont be able to move" thing to Angela in her dream...something about that says Watch Out! --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:53, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
- We still don't know if that was Arthur's power and not Maury's. I'm inclined to believe Maury put her in that state.--Nonredhead 11:59, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
- Ah yes, but power isn't always limited to abilities. --Aburu 22:21, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- It didn't look like Arthur had any power at all just lying on the bed though --Rayhond 22:17, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- True, though that could just be his fear of someone so powerful. I was just trying to figure out if there's enough evidence to label him as the leader on the Pinehearst page --Aburu 21:47, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
Redirect "Arthur" here?
I think maybe we should redirect "Arthur" to this page, since now that Arthur Petrelli is a major player, people will probably be looking for him most of the time.--Aburu 14:56, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
- Good ideer. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:03, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
Power: Ability Theft
I motion that Arthur's ability is actually the power to steal others' abilities. He stole Adam's regeneration, leading to him aging 400 years in seconds since he could no longer stay immortal.
This would also make Arthur the empath Claude knew before Peter.
Which episode did Claude say that in? Also if was an Empath Mimicker like Peter Petrelli why would he need to touch Adam Monroe's hand? If he was an Empath Mimicker he wouldn't have needed Adam to be there since Empath Mimickers absorb it the first time they are around the power and he would have been around Adam several times when The Company was first founded and for a time after it's founding. Another if he was an Empath Mimicker it wouldn't have killed Adam in the fashion of making him age 400 or so years in seconds. This episode also seems to imply that he has Telepathy like Matt and Maury, that or Adam just knew based on his past experience with Arthur and what he would do to others and how. Plus you need to sign your comments here. --Snow Leapord 21:27, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
He needs to touch someone to steal their powers. It's like a more violent mix of Sylar and Peter.
--Plot_Device 21:45, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Okay, now I think it's even more clear: I called it above in the unsigned post.
--Plot_Device 22:00, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Could this be an advanced form of Aura absorption?
--Xepeyon 22:11, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- Maybe, but doesn't Aura absorption also mean that you take the life energy of the person you are using the power on? Peter didn't die when his power was taken, and it can be argued that Adam died because he couldn't regenerate any more.
--OprahDust 22:13, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- For now, shouldn't it just be "Arthur's ability"?--Aburu 22:14, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- Correct, for now it has to be Arthur's ability until we either are given a name or there's consensus on what it is. (Admin 22:22, 20 October 2008 (EDT))
- I'd say it's closer to Aura Absorption than Empathic Mimicry, since Arthur STEALS the abilities instead of copies them... JackOfBloodyHearts 22:20, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- I would say Ability Theft is the best term for the power since it doesn't limit the power to just empathy or auras.--Plot Device 22:57, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- For now, shouldn't it just be "Arthur's ability"?--Aburu 22:14, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Peter's attempt to defend himself
I just changed the power that Peter was intending to use from Telekinesis to Lightning. Since that was the only power either of the Petrellis used actively in that scene (excepting, of course, Arthur's ability), it would seem the logical choice. Ricard Desi 22:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Didn't Peter technically use Telekinesis to open the door while invisible?
--Plot Device 22:56, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Template I added
I tried to add a template of the abilities Arthur stolen but it also brings over the usage section from the Template and I can't figure out why, I did it exactly the same way it was done on Peter's article. Somebody could you fix it? --Snow Leapord 23:22, 20 October 2008 (EDT)