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******* My conversations with Carri have been spotty. She responded to my messages twice, but never passed on John's contact info to me, or my info to him. She basically just gave me a little info, which is reflected in her article. Thanks for the link to John above. I'm not sure that's the same John as ours, but I think it's a pretty good bet, I just don't have any confirmation. I've tried to contact him at that link two or three times now, each with no response. I'll ask Micah later tonight. If that doesn't work, I have a few other avenues I can try. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:11, 19 February 2008 (EST) |
******* My conversations with Carri have been spotty. She responded to my messages twice, but never passed on John's contact info to me, or my info to him. She basically just gave me a little info, which is reflected in her article. Thanks for the link to John above. I'm not sure that's the same John as ours, but I think it's a pretty good bet, I just don't have any confirmation. I've tried to contact him at that link two or three times now, each with no response. I'll ask Micah later tonight. If that doesn't work, I have a few other avenues I can try. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:11, 19 February 2008 (EST) |
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*How about "Imastealyopowakinesis" But really I'd be good with power theft or ability theft. [[User:Psilaq|Psilaq]] <small>[[User talk:Psilaq|Talk to me]]</small> 15:27, 19 February 2008 (EST) |
*How about "Imastealyopowakinesis" But really I'd be good with power theft or ability theft. [[User:Psilaq|Psilaq]] <small>[[User talk:Psilaq|Talk to me]]</small> 15:27, 19 February 2008 (EST) |
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* Going with the cannon name given in the GN, why not simply 'Power Stealer'? She said, quote: "Steal His Power"; so she is a ''Power Stealer''. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 02/19/2008 18:00 (EST)</small> |
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Revision as of 23:00, 19 February 2008
| Ability Naming Conventions | |
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| 1. Canon Sources | Episodes |
| 2. Near-canon Sources | Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions |
| 3. Secondary Sources | Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival |
| 4. Common names for abilities | Names from other works |
| 5. Descriptions of abilities | Descriptions |
6. Possessor's name |
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The name
Well, we may as well get right into it. Suggestions? --Piemanmoo 05:33, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- "Just like she said... 'After I steal his power.'" That leads me to ability theft, but there's a page for that. =/ --NellaBishop 06:09, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- It's not power theft as we have defined it for Sylar, unless we want to rework that page by moving the Sylar information to the article on Sylar's power or Sylar's article and then make the Ability theft article the article for Linda's power. --Snow Leapord 07:39, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- "Stealing" abilities are not the natural intention of the ability, it's actually how Linda used it. That's why we don't call Sylar's ability but his actions as "Ability Theft". I think "Power absorption" is okay, and notes can be made on the Ability theft and Empathic mimicry article.
08:40, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- It reminds me of either Parasite (dc comics, or at least he showed up in the Superman Animated series not sure about the comics) or Rougue (marvel) except it appears more permanent, similar in regards to Sylar, only through a different method of obtaining abilities. So any name in regards to stealing, absorbing abilities is fine with me. --Dman dustin 09:05, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Power absorbtion? --PeterDawson 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I'm sticking with "'steal his power'" so it's Ability Theft for me. I'm not sure what to do with the original ability theft page, so all I've got is to make it a "Stolen Abilities" page. --NellaBishop 10:50, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I have a problem calling it power absorption or power theft since 1) That's the name associated with Sylar's actions, and 2) We don't know if that's what the power is, or if that's just what Linda was going to do with it. For instance, if we only saw a telekinetic person slice tomatoes with his power, we wouldn't call the power "food slicing", it would still be telekinesis. We know so little about this power (and pretty much what we do know is something that some unknown and possibly unreliable person told this shady character Linda) that it's difficult to come up with any name that's not jumping to conclusions. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:15, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- See, this is more of my failing at reading comics. I didn't realize the blue box was Linda's monologue, not Linderman's. So yeah, Ryan's right again. :P --NellaBishop 11:30, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- We don't know yes/no whether Linderman would have still been able to access his ability after Linda was finished, so I agree that "power theft" is not yet valid. However, Linda did claim to be able to absorb Linderman's ability, so I think "ability absorption" is broad enough not to be speculative as it doesn't imply how Linda could use the ability after she absorbed it. Sylar's actions are referred to as power/ability theft since we know the person loses the ability after he takes it and, for Linda, this is not necessarily the case.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I have a problem calling it power absorption or power theft since 1) That's the name associated with Sylar's actions, and 2) We don't know if that's what the power is, or if that's just what Linda was going to do with it. For instance, if we only saw a telekinetic person slice tomatoes with his power, we wouldn't call the power "food slicing", it would still be telekinesis. We know so little about this power (and pretty much what we do know is something that some unknown and possibly unreliable person told this shady character Linda) that it's difficult to come up with any name that's not jumping to conclusions. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:15, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I'm sticking with "'steal his power'" so it's Ability Theft for me. I'm not sure what to do with the original ability theft page, so all I've got is to make it a "Stolen Abilities" page. --NellaBishop 10:50, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Maybe "Touch power absorption". They way it sounded to me, Linda's ability is like Sylar's , only she doesn't have to kill them. I think a note should be included about that. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 13:07, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- That's speculative, though. We don't know anything about how her power works. It could work like Peter's, it could work like Sylar's, or it could be entirely different. (Admin 13:12, 19 February 2008 (EST))
- Maybe someone could ask the artist? -Lөvөl 13:23, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- A better choice would be to ask the writer, assuming we could locate him. We could ask CBR, but I'm not sure they could provide a clear answer.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:55, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- If Micah and John met in person or emailed, you could ask Micah for contact info about John. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 14:10, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I've tried numerous times to get ahold of John O'Hara, and I've exhausted numerous resources in doing so. I haven't given up, but I don't have a lot of hope. I can ask Micah, though, but I know it's rare that the writer and artist ever talk to each other. (Jason Badower and Mark Sable are very proactive in their communications, but it was me who introduced them to each other for the first time.) I'm not sure what Micah can tell us, but it's always worth a shot, right? I'll shoot Micah an email later tonight. If there are any other questions, add them at this link; we might add an addendum to the interview. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Have you been able to contact his co-author of his previous works, Carri Wagner? She is likely to have his contact info. and if we're right that they both went to the University of Southern California, then this link probably leads to his friendster page. It has a few photos and he's displayed as a friend of Carri's, but only as "John" (no last name). However, his Company/employment entry does list him as working for NBC and his college major was "English".--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- My conversations with Carri have been spotty. She responded to my messages twice, but never passed on John's contact info to me, or my info to him. She basically just gave me a little info, which is reflected in her article. Thanks for the link to John above. I'm not sure that's the same John as ours, but I think it's a pretty good bet, I just don't have any confirmation. I've tried to contact him at that link two or three times now, each with no response. I'll ask Micah later tonight. If that doesn't work, I have a few other avenues I can try. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:11, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Have you been able to contact his co-author of his previous works, Carri Wagner? She is likely to have his contact info. and if we're right that they both went to the University of Southern California, then this link probably leads to his friendster page. It has a few photos and he's displayed as a friend of Carri's, but only as "John" (no last name). However, his Company/employment entry does list him as working for NBC and his college major was "English".--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- I've tried numerous times to get ahold of John O'Hara, and I've exhausted numerous resources in doing so. I haven't given up, but I don't have a lot of hope. I can ask Micah, though, but I know it's rare that the writer and artist ever talk to each other. (Jason Badower and Mark Sable are very proactive in their communications, but it was me who introduced them to each other for the first time.) I'm not sure what Micah can tell us, but it's always worth a shot, right? I'll shoot Micah an email later tonight. If there are any other questions, add them at this link; we might add an addendum to the interview. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Maybe someone could ask the artist? -Lөvөl 13:23, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- That's speculative, though. We don't know anything about how her power works. It could work like Peter's, it could work like Sylar's, or it could be entirely different. (Admin 13:12, 19 February 2008 (EST))
- How about "Imastealyopowakinesis" But really I'd be good with power theft or ability theft. Psilaq Talk to me 15:27, 19 February 2008 (EST)
- Going with the cannon name given in the GN, why not simply 'Power Stealer'? She said, quote: "Steal His Power"; so she is a Power Stealer. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/19/2008 18:00 (EST)
Example wording assumptive
The example wording says, "Linda Tavara unsuccessfully tried to absorb Linderman's healing ability.". That is assumptive. We do not know if she was successful or not in absorbing his ability, because Linderman knocked her unconscious and kills her. Before we know if her absorption was successful or not.
I am going to change the wording to be less speculative, and say: "There is only one known demonstration of this ability: Linda Tavara attempt to absorb Linderman's healing ability. (War Buddies, Part 7)". --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/19/2008 17:34 (EST)
- p.s. After re-reading it, if anything, she was successful; not unsuccessful. Deferring back to the canon of the GN itself, as she puts her blue hand on Austin's face, she say, quote, "It's mine now"....which tells us she did absorb it, and knew that she had. This statement fits the implication that she had taken powers before; and that she knew what it felt like to successfully take a power. Either she did successfully take it (based on this), or it is best unconclusive. We should avoid however, assuming she was unsuccessful. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/19/2008 17:40 (EST)