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*****But why in the house of mirror, surely he have mirror(s) on his truck. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13|Darkfiremaster13]] 06:29, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
*****But why in the house of mirror, surely he have mirror(s) on his truck. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13|Darkfiremaster13]] 06:29, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
******He could trap sylar in the circle of mirrors and after spinning round a few times, it would be impossible to tell which way was out. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:31, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
******He could trap sylar in the circle of mirrors and after spinning round a few times, it would be impossible to tell which way was out. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:31, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
Given Samuel's description of his ability as "the ability to project memories", I think we may need to rename this ability. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 21:30, 1 February 2010 (EST)


== Mental manipulation ==
== Mental manipulation ==

Revision as of 02:30, 2 February 2010

Memory Healing

something tells me it's not just memories damian heals. --mc_hammark 07:13, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

  • I think it might be. Everything, from his eyes to the way he holds his hands, and the fact that he never says a word seem to be hinting that he has the Haitian's ability.--Laudo 08:53, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Wait, he GAVE sylar his memories, so does that mean that he is like the anti-haitian? --mc_hammark 10:51, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Yeah, Damien got lucky to have an ability to help the Haitian's victims, which sounds unlikely and far-fetched... What if he can make others remember what they forgot? Like I don't remember what happened a year ago, Damien touches me, and I recall everything? AltesUTC CH


Memory Projection

I don't think Damien "heal" Sylar, cause if he was healed then he will be back to his normal self but he's not. I think Damien can only project the memory of others and can pick what memory he liked to project. --Darkfiremaster13 18:19, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

  • He didn't completely heal him. He healed his mind, which allowed him to access his memories. The way I see it, as Linderman stated in Villains, when telepathy is used to remove memories, the brain is scarred. That's why it can be healed to allow memories back. Matt however, completely wiped Sylar's mind and put Nathan's into it. I believe that what happened is, sylar's soul (if we can believe he has one) was transferred into matt's mind, and that is why Sylar is not completely healed.
    • Actually, another note, I though that Damien would have healed Sylar and he would be completely back, but also still inside Matt, so we would have a Sylar and then another one wanting his body back. Now that would have been an interesting plot twist!!! --mc_hammark 07:50, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Yeah that will be an interesting plot and I guess your right. But what about the ability? Samuel told them to go to the house of mirror, I think it have a connection with Damien's ability. --Darkfiremaster13 05:42, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
        • Or, it was just a quiet place where Sylar could take a good look at himself. --mc_hammark 09:38, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
          • But why in the house of mirror, surely he have mirror(s) on his truck. --Darkfiremaster13 06:29, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
            • He could trap sylar in the circle of mirrors and after spinning round a few times, it would be impossible to tell which way was out. --mc_hammark 16:31, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

Given Samuel's description of his ability as "the ability to project memories", I think we may need to rename this ability. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 21:30, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Mental manipulation

I think it's quite clear from the latest episode that his power is the same as the Haitian's. Getbrett 23:33, 23 November 2009 (EST)

  • It's not that clear. To me, it seems Hiro thinks he is part of Star Trek (beam me up Scotty (that's star trek right?)), Though we saw previous memories if Hiro, it didn't seem he wiped them, just recalled them.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 23:36, 23 November 2009 (EST)
    • Hiro's a big Star Trek fan. That could be where that came from. I'd say that its more Memory Manipulation in either case.--WarGrowlmon18 23:45, 23 November 2009 (EST)
      • But he also said he needed to save Watson (implying Holmes, or perhaps he thinks Ando's in danger). Mental manipulation seems to definitely be a heavy possibility. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 23:57, 23 November 2009 (EST)
        • Mental Manipulation erases memories and blocks powers. Hiro didn't seem to have his memories erased, not really and he could still teleport.--WarGrowlmon18 00:36, 24 November 2009 (EST)
          • The latest GN says Damien was trying "to wipe Hiro's mind" or something like that...but then, GN intro's aren't canon. --Yamawhata? 17:42, 5 January 2010 (EST)

Appearance

Damien looks like he hasn't showered in YEARS. --JLYK

Mental manipulation (again)

I'm not suggesting a name change but kind of just thinking aloud right now. One argument against Damien having mental manipulation was that the Haitian claimed he could not restore memories, while Damien clearly did. The issue I have with this is that, the way I understand at least, telepathy doesn't erase memories so much as suppress them. That is, the memories were still in "Nathan"'s brain, he just couldn't access them due to Parkman's mind-bottling. Isn't that why Sylar's true personality started to slip out a little bit and made Angela ask Parkman for a tune-up? If that were true, Damien wouldn't have "restored" the memories so much as unburied them, which may be possible for the Haitian to do. Once again, not actually suggesting anything, just thinking aloud.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 17:05, 23 December 2009 (EST)

  • Although I appear to be talking to myself, I just want to share something interesting I found in It Takes a Village, Part 4. The quote goes "I became one with my father's mind and for the first time, saw him -- not as a god, or a priest...but as a man. A man who loved his son, though it did not show for fear it would make him look weak. Memories, moments, hidden like jewels scattered in a muddy field. But I could find them. I could find them and show them to him, in all their radiance." Afterwords, René's father is a different man. Now look at the bolded parts. Does it not, more or less, described EXACTLY what Damien did to Sylar? I believe so, at least. Also, much less convincing speculation, but perhaps Samuel was okay with letting Damien restore Sylar, because if the true, evolved human-killing Sylar came back, Damien would be able to block him. Anyway, just something to think about.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:56, 25 December 2009 (EST)
    • I'm still talking to myself, but I just found something important. In the latest graphic novel The Trip, Part 1, the blurb in the beginning states:At the request of Samuel, Damien attempts to wipe Hiro's mind. During the wipe, Hiro's mind got scrambled up into a fanboy soup. Confused and scared; he teleports from the carnival. Let's not forget, when Arthur tried to wipe Hiro's memory (with an ability that has been confirmed to be mental manipulation), Hiro became slightly messed up, similar to the way he is now. I'm going to move this discussion with myself to Damien;s page, as someone may actually reply there.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 20:11, 5 January 2010 (EST)
      • I'm totally with you on that one. We tend to have a hard time deciding when abilities are and aren't the same (Niki/Knox have the same strength but demonstrate different aspects, but Damien and Anna do not have the same powers as Rene on the basis of aspects not shown). We've seen every aspect of Rene's (I keep typing "the Haitian" out of habit) ability here but blocking powers, and I honestly can't see Damien having any reason to block powers in the middle of a 'family' of evolved humans.